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The 'truth' about tobacco smoke
oakridger.com ^ | January 28, 2005 | Ellen Rogers

Posted on 01/28/2005 1:50:34 PM PST by SheLion

Just how harmful is environmental tobacco smoke?

Not as harmful as the Environmental Protection Agency or those anti-secondhand smoke commercials would have one believe, according to Roger A. Jenkins, Ph.D., consultant to the Oak Ridge National Laboratory's Chemical Sciences division.

Jenkins presented "Human Exposure to Environmental Tobacco Smoke: Is What You See What You Get?" at ORNL this week.

"Some people wish I didn't have the findings I have," Jenkins said. "Others say, 'Gee, if this is true, why does the EPA continue to talk about this?' [The research] steps on people's toes, and that's exactly what I want it to do."

Environmental tobacco smoke is a highly diluted mixture of sidestream (70 to 90 percent) and exhaled mainstream (10 to 30 percent) of tobacco smoke.

"'Secondhand' smoke is probably misleading, since most ETS is derived from smoke which is emitted by the smoldering firecone of a cigarette," Jenkins said.

According to Jenkins, the typical smoker inhales 480 milligrams of smoke a day and 32 milligrams of nicotine per day. In a home where smoking is unrestricted, the typical non-smoker will inhale the equivalent of .45 milligrams of smoke particles and .028 milligrams of nicotine.

There are several science-related hurdles to overcome in educating the public about ETS, Jenkins said. The first is getting the public to understand the difference between personal beliefs and science.

"In a society where there are still serious debates about evolution, this can be a real challenge," he said.

The second is avoiding the "means justifying the end syndrome," which Jenkins says involves the distortion of science in the name of preventing youth from smoking.

The third major hurdle is demanding "public policy types" provide perspective for the facts they declare.

"Sure, there are 43 carcinogens (cancer-causing agents) in ETS, but there are also probably about 40 carcinogens in diesel exhaust and wood smoke," Jenkins said.

Indoor air pollution is also caused by many things other than non-tobacco sources, including cleaning, cooking, consumer products like Raid and wood burning.

"As (physician) Paracelsus said in the early 1500's, 'the poison is in the dose,'" Jenkins said. "We still continue to eat lettuce and take showers despite their carcinogens. Life is risky business."

Jenkins is simply remaining true to his profession by bringing forth this politically incorrect information, he says.

"When you start tinkering with science because you want to achieve some political aim, you are no longer a scientist."

Jenkins retired in September from his position as leader of the Environmental Chemistry and Mass Spectrometry Group in the Chemical Sciences Division at ORNL. He has authored or co-authored more than 45 open literature publications in the area of field analytical chemistry and tobacco smoke characterization and human exposure. He is the lead author of "The Chemistry of Environmental Tobacco Smoke: Composition and Measurement," Second Edition.

Jenkins has also acted as an expert witness in several high-profile litigations involving environmental and mainstream tobacco smoke composition and exposure


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: antismokers; bans; butts; cigarettes; fda; health; individualliberty; lawmakers; maine; niconazis; professional; prohibitionists; pufflist; regulation; rinos; senate; smoking; taxes; tobacco
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To: VermiciousKnid
"Reformed whores" refered to those former smokers who become antis. (Like Christy Turlington)

EEEEEK! I DO get fired up, don't I! heh!

Forgive me??

161 posted on 01/28/2005 7:45:52 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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To: SheLion

Well.....I'll consider it....if you buy me a beer.

xo
J.


162 posted on 01/28/2005 7:46:38 PM PST by VermiciousKnid
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To: paulat

Unless I'm confusing you with someone else, I'm pretty sure that you only support my desire to smoke because you think it'll kill me faster.

If I am confusing you with another poster, I apologize.


163 posted on 01/28/2005 7:49:46 PM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
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To: VermiciousKnid
Well.....I'll consider it....if you buy me a beer.

You got it!!!!!

164 posted on 01/28/2005 7:51:36 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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To: SheLion

I know, and they're getting away with it because people have bought for so long the idea that second hand smoke is dangerous, and/or they just don't like the smell, or they think smokers are unintelligent or morally deficient, or...

Shall I go on? LOL

The idiocy of it all amazes me.


165 posted on 01/28/2005 7:51:36 PM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
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To: SheLion

Ah!

All is forgiven, my child!

Regards,


166 posted on 01/28/2005 7:53:02 PM PST by VermiciousKnid
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To: grand old partier
i agree...i have always loved the smell of tobacco

You smell that? Do you smell that? Napalm, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that.

I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed, for twelve hours. When it was all over I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body.

The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like... victory.

Someday this war's gonna end and I'm going to smoke a cigar. I have always loved the smell of tobacco in the morning.


167 posted on 01/28/2005 7:53:43 PM PST by Major_Risktaker
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To: exnavychick
The idiocy of it all amazes me.

I'm beginning to know which ones in here are under 30. Most have been brain washed and bought the anti's lies, lock stock and barrel.

Yep, most are either under 30 or the older ones have quit smoking and they can't stand that the rest of us do and still love it.

168 posted on 01/28/2005 7:54:32 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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To: T.Smith
I'm curious to know what keeps a person smoking into their 30's, 40's, 50's and beyond.

Strong physical addiction to nicotine and insulin rush that nicotine creates. On a scondary and more lasting level, the learned behavior that the relief of the withdrawal symptoms provide which is reinforced over and over again creating an emotional addiction triggerd by associations to routine events. The addict comes to see relief of withdrawal as pleasure and in a way it becomes pleasure.

169 posted on 01/28/2005 7:55:35 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: VermiciousKnid
All is forgiven, my child!

Well, I really am sorry. Your name is very close to one nasty anti that used to come in here.

Again, I am very sorry. I wouldn't hurt my friends for anything in this world!

170 posted on 01/28/2005 7:55:59 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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To: T.Smith
"If you don't want to tell me, then STFU."

Why don't YOU STFU?

I'm not the one that's asking!

171 posted on 01/28/2005 7:56:12 PM PST by TexasCowboy (We make geldings of our boys then wonder why they don't become stallions)
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To: exnavychick
Gosh, I just got FReep mail from T. Smith. Get this:

Re: The 'truth' about tobacco smoke From T.Smith | 01/28/2005 10:39:52 PM EST replied

Geez, read through the entire discussion first. You are one obnoxious old bitch.

So now I am an OBNOXIOUS OLD BITCH. Goodness!

172 posted on 01/28/2005 8:03:54 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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To: SheLion; exnavychick; All
Well, your comment about my butt got me all excited.

Now I gotta see if I can go to sleep.

Goodnight, y'all!

173 posted on 01/28/2005 8:04:33 PM PST by TexasCowboy (We make geldings of our boys then wonder why they don't become stallions)
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To: SheLion
HAHAHA!!

The typical mark of a coward.

Gets trounced on the thread and resorts to freeps!

LOL!
Goodnight, lovely lady.

174 posted on 01/28/2005 8:06:45 PM PST by TexasCowboy (We make geldings of our boys then wonder why they don't become stallions)
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To: TOUGH STOUGH
and those who are allergic,

Kind of late in the thread to jump in but.....anyway, a person can't be allergic to cigarette smoke. Allergies are caused by proteins and smoke has none. What it does is irritate the sinus passage and that mimics an allergy. ;-)

175 posted on 01/28/2005 8:17:29 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Slippery, Slicktey, Slidey, Bumpus.....SNOW!)
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To: SheLion

So much for the "young and dumb" thing, eh?

LOL!


176 posted on 01/28/2005 8:39:41 PM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
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To: SheLion

Read through the entire thread? LOL. I did that, and despite his claims to the contrary, he was an instigator here.

That was a pretty crappy thing for him to say.


177 posted on 01/28/2005 8:43:17 PM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
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To: TexasCowboy

Good night, TC.


178 posted on 01/28/2005 8:43:46 PM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
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To: SheLion
For starters, if you are a city council member, getting a ban on all indoor or outdoor tobacco smoking is a revenue maker with the all the fines such regulations generate. This is a job generator because the extra people necessary to enforce the regulation; the extra court time, attorney fees, and the increase in union worker dues (to be used for DemonRAT Party activities) all contribute to one ultimate end: the consolidation of the socialist agenda. This tobacco puritanism is a tool for the socialist to increase their revenue base by expanding their control over the sheeple who are considered by the policy wonks little more than farm animals with a bigger brain.
179 posted on 01/28/2005 8:52:50 PM PST by jonrick46
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To: DJ MacWoW
Allergies are caused by proteins and smoke has none. What it does is irritate the sinus passage and that mimics an allergy. ;-)

Really? I didn't know that. Thanks.

180 posted on 01/28/2005 8:52:50 PM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
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