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Navy photos of Submarine USS San Francisco in Dry Dock (you won't believe the extent of damage!)
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Posted on 01/27/2005 12:42:24 PM PST by Boot Hill
The amount of damage is simply staggering!
That this boat ever made it back to port is a tribute to its designers, builders, and especially to the crew and captain. How does America keep finding men like these?
![](http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/webphoto/web_050127-N-4658L-030.jpg)
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![](http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/webphoto/web_050127-N-4658L-015.jpg)
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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: grounding; guam; navy; ssn711; submarine; usssanfrancisco
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To: Boot Hill
They will likely remove everything damaged forward of one of the bulkheads aft of all of the damage, then attach a newly fabricated forward section. As long as the integrity of the hull has not been compromised aft of the island, it would not be considered a "total loss."
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posted on
01/27/2005 1:04:17 PM PST
by
reeb88
(How much fun are 72 virgins anyway? How much crying can one martyr take?)
To: Boot Hill
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posted on
01/27/2005 1:04:32 PM PST
by
lilylangtree
(Veni, Vidi, Vici)
To: Boot Hill
The San Francisco was my old boat when I was in the Navy. Sad to see her in this horrible shape. Unbelievable that they lost so few.
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posted on
01/27/2005 1:04:59 PM PST
by
inkling
To: lafroste
"How deep was it when it hit?"
According to Navy Times, it was about 500 feet down when it hit!
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posted on
01/27/2005 1:05:27 PM PST
by
Levante
To: Blzbba
..and unless I miss my guess...
It looks like they brought part of the mountian home with them!
Those are big rocks stuck in the sonar space and lower left ballast tank.
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posted on
01/27/2005 1:05:49 PM PST
by
cavtrooper21
(Fear the rabbit.)
To: najida
66
posted on
01/27/2005 1:05:56 PM PST
by
David1
To: bigfootbob
In that case they might salvage something. There will be extensive x-ray testing of the pressure hull and pressure fittings.
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posted on
01/27/2005 1:06:09 PM PST
by
RightWhale
(Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
To: WildTurkey
Looks like the buckling was topside, port of the walkway, just aft of the damage. I'm not a submariner (though I did spend a couple of years in the U.S. Naval Sea Cadet Corps), but I don't think that bulge was part of the sonar dome.
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posted on
01/27/2005 1:06:31 PM PST
by
Viking2002
(Let's get the Insurrection started, already..............)
To: RightWhale
The sub is salvageable. IIRC, the reactor stuff is in the back of the sub. But it depends on if it is cost-effective to strip out the front half of the sub and repair/replace it. It also depends on if there is a political will to fix it.
69
posted on
01/27/2005 1:07:00 PM PST
by
Fudd
(Never confuse a liberal with facts.)
To: RightWhale
I defer to your knowledge..I thought maybe, from the pic..only the front 25% of the sub would have to be scrapped..
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posted on
01/27/2005 1:07:47 PM PST
by
ken5050
To: Boot Hill; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; blam; SunkenCiv; Jet Jaguar; Doohickey; ...
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posted on
01/27/2005 1:07:50 PM PST
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
To: Boot Hill
Good God. That they made it back is amazing. What exactly is the trap for ? Covering classified stuff ?
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posted on
01/27/2005 1:08:37 PM PST
by
Centurion2000
(Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
To: Centurion2000
What exactly is the trap for ? Covering classified stuff ?That's classified.
73
posted on
01/27/2005 1:09:22 PM PST
by
Lazamataz
(Running around in a circle waving my arms and screaming like a little girl)
To: Boot Hill
A detailed examination of the high-res image reveals they may have come into contact with terrain at about a 45 (or so) degree angle on their port side (angle measured from dead ahead and to the left) ...
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posted on
01/27/2005 1:10:12 PM PST
by
_Jim
(<--- Ann C. and Rush L. speak on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
To: Tempest
it was the captain that ran it into a mountainI could have this completely wrong, Tempest, but in following the threads on this accident, my recollection, after lots of bashing of the Captain for running into a mountain, FGS, was that it was discovered that the mountain was NOT on any charts, sonar is not operating when the sub is being stealthy (I'm sure there is a more nautical way to say that), and that this was pretty much unavoidable. I know I will be corrected if I have misunderstood. Tremendous credit certainly does go to the engineers and those who built what must be a remarkable craft.
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posted on
01/27/2005 1:11:15 PM PST
by
Bahbah
To: Tempest
Nope it was the engineers and the people who built it was the captain that ran it into a mountain =^) It takes a proper captain to train and discipline a crew to react properly in this type of situation. My hat is off to him and the crew. If he was on-course, he did not "run it into a mountain". He was a victim of fate and the official orders that put him on that course.
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posted on
01/27/2005 1:11:48 PM PST
by
WildTurkey
(When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
To: Martin Tell; snopercod; Dog; Dog Gone; Coop; Cap Huff; Calpernia; blackie
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posted on
01/27/2005 1:12:36 PM PST
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
To: Boot Hill
How can you tell it is the pressure hull that has buckled and not the ballast tank superstructure?
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posted on
01/27/2005 1:13:09 PM PST
by
WildTurkey
(When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
To: Charles Martel
Look at the orange construction fence; the walkway to which it is affixed goes "up and over" a bulge in the hull. There is a bulge but how do you tell if it is a bulge in the pressure hull?
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posted on
01/27/2005 1:14:12 PM PST
by
WildTurkey
(When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
To: bigfootbob
I don't think so. This looks like a Trident class sub, (I'm no expert, but my fishing buddy is a lead supervisor at Puget Sound Naval Shipyard and I've been treated to some inside stuff about the Navy's retro-fitting plans for the Trident fleet), and it was scheduled to be refurbished into a new awesome reincarnation. You can say that again ...
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posted on
01/27/2005 1:16:18 PM PST
by
WildTurkey
(When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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