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Navy photos of Submarine USS San Francisco in Dry Dock (you won't believe the extent of damage!)
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Posted on 01/27/2005 12:42:24 PM PST by Boot Hill
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To: bigfootbob
It's not a Trident. That I'm pretty sure about. Somewhere I think it was id'ed as 688-class. But I'm not 100% sure about that.
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posted on
01/27/2005 2:52:08 PM PST
by
LibertarianInExile
(NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
To: Boot Hill
Wow. Praise God they didn't sink.
To: thackney
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posted on
01/27/2005 2:53:33 PM PST
by
Eaker
("I am a Scientist ..................... and that was fast for me.")
To: WildTurkey
All I'm pointing out is that the review will find ANYTHING that the skipper could have done differently and make it an issue. You know as well as I do that the Navy isn't known for forgiveness with these things.
Heck, look at the number of CO's that have been relieved recently. I've seen reports posted here at least a dozen times since 2002. Most were a LOT less than a nearly-totaled boat and twenty injured with one killed.
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posted on
01/27/2005 2:54:26 PM PST
by
Long Cut
(The Constitution...the NATOPS of America!)
To: WildTurkey
One image of the sub's track showed "reported discolored water" in an area "near" (6-10 miles) the sub's tract. This was surrounded by a dashed circle - no soundings, no location, no date, no information other than that.
But the soundings AROUND that area were 6000+ feet - so why suspect a mountain - if the map-makers COULDN'T even "draw" the place where one "might" be.
It's be like flying at 15,000 feet over Kansas City without oxygen because somebody in Denver reported "high mountains" nearby. But that person didn't say whether those mountains were near the east border or west border of Colorado.
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posted on
01/27/2005 2:54:52 PM PST
by
Robert A Cook PE
(I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Try attaching a broomstick to the front of your boat (underwater at the bow), and then running at 30+ knots ..... We went into the yards way back when to get the latest; the trailing sonar tail. Only thing, it was not retractable. Our skipper was peeved. As soon as we left Hawaii, he told took the Conn and rigged for angles and dangles. On our next routine transmission, we informed Fleet that we had "lost" our tail and we proceded on for our WestPac.
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posted on
01/27/2005 2:55:11 PM PST
by
WildTurkey
(When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
To: jude24
I agree. A true testamanent to how our boats are designed and how our crews are trained. The Kursk lost its sonar dome and sank.
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posted on
01/27/2005 2:55:31 PM PST
by
Paul_Denton
(Shoot first and ask questions later)
To: Eaker
Could rebuild the entire front end for "covert operations"
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posted on
01/27/2005 2:55:31 PM PST
by
spokeshave
(Strategery + Schardenfreude = Stratenschardenfreudery)
To: Long Cut
All I'm pointing out is that the review will find ANYTHING that the skipper could have done differently and make it an issue. You know as well as I do that the Navy isn't known for forgiveness with these things.A good statement. But I was taking on your absolutes that he was not operating prudently.
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posted on
01/27/2005 2:56:36 PM PST
by
WildTurkey
(When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
To: Martin Tell
I haven't heard too much about this story. How did the sub hit the underwater mountain? Is the captain facing charges?I hope he will not face charges. That he and his crew saved the ship and themselves AND got it back to port is nothing short of heroic and he deserves the Medal of Honor for it.
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posted on
01/27/2005 2:56:49 PM PST
by
Paul_Denton
(Shoot first and ask questions later)
To: Robert A. Cook, PE; inkling; Physicist; blam; Travis McGee
"Try attaching a broomstick to the front of your boat (underwater at the bow), and then running at 30+ knots ..... Can't be done."Can't be easily done passively, my friend...
...But we're Americans. We can do things, actively.
The boat herself has plenty of electrical juice. Run a cable to a small, electrically powered craft that remains some distance ahead of the boat herself.
Let the lead "curb feeler" ram uncharted mountains, and by so doing, give a ballast-blowing computer time to save American lives back in the trailing boat.
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posted on
01/27/2005 2:57:30 PM PST
by
Southack
(Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
To: Darkwolf377
I don't think Michael has much of a nose left. I think he has to rebuild it with putty and rubber every morning.
MM
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posted on
01/27/2005 2:58:27 PM PST
by
MississippiMan
(Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
To: WildTurkey
"... and WE always won!" If it makes you happy...:)
Hey, BTW, I'm not looking to start a flame war here, or a "bubblehead vs. Aircrew" thing. I'm just posting my opinions, FWIW.
You guys do some extraordinary things. I've always been glad that the Russians were never half as good. Or quiet. The workouts you give us are always a real challenge.
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posted on
01/27/2005 2:59:02 PM PST
by
Long Cut
(The Constitution...the NATOPS of America!)
To: ken5050
Why?..they're all modular construction....just cut off the nose section..add a new one..Yes that is true. I just hope the ship is indeed repaired though.
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posted on
01/27/2005 2:59:09 PM PST
by
Paul_Denton
(Shoot first and ask questions later)
To: Eaker
A few months doesn't make you an expert FReeper either. I got more hours sleeping at the "panel" in a nuclear sub than you have posting on FR!
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posted on
01/27/2005 2:59:47 PM PST
by
WildTurkey
(When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
To: Enterprise1788
Right: Battleship bows have lights. A couple of power cords, and noting else but empty space for the goat locker (er, bosun's locker) and anchor chain space.
Swapping bows would mean removing the ENTIRE combat suite, and some 12,000 cables and several thousand more high air, hydraulic, water, oil, and EMBT blow and vent piping from BOTH sub's, then rebuilding and reconnecting ALL OF THEM (and re-retesting them again!) in the rebuilt boat.
Not practical, unless some admiral has more money than sense. Or is told to do so by some politician with more tax money than sense.
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posted on
01/27/2005 2:59:54 PM PST
by
Robert A Cook PE
(I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
To: Robert A. Cook, PE
IMO we'd better chart the entire area around Guam well. The Chinese were snooping around a few months ago and if their charts are better than ours a "cat and mouse" game could result in another incident like this.
To: Red6
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posted on
01/27/2005 3:00:52 PM PST
by
ChefKeith
(Apply here to be added to the NASCAR Ping List, Daytona is comming soon...)
To: Eaker
If this was a normal transit route employed by numerouse submarines previously (heck, maybe the SF had done it before) This statement proves that you have not read the previous threads.
What is incorrect?
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posted on
01/27/2005 3:01:17 PM PST
by
WildTurkey
(When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
To: topper
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posted on
01/27/2005 3:01:44 PM PST
by
bobbyd
(Damn, I've been tagged.....)
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