Their first problem is that they do not distinguish between casualties inflicted by the insurgents/terrorists and those inflicted by the US, coalition forces, or Iraqi security forces. Second, their methodology labels all Iraqi dead who are not positively identified as insurgents as civilians. Third, they do not include any context. As this article shows, the average violent death rate under Saddam Hussein's 20+ years of rule was 70-125 per day. Using the lower end figure of 70 and multiplying by the approximately 700 days the US has been in Iraq projects to 49,000 violent deaths at the Hussein rate; a savings of over 30,000 lives under the U.S. occupation.
It further does not take into account the other ways in which the defeat of Saddam Hussein has saved Iraqi lives. Under the sanctions regime and with Hussein diverting the oil for food money to bribes, his personal use, and his security forces, UNICEF estimated that 4,500 Iraqi children per month were dying of otherwise treatable medical and nutrition related ailments. That toll has ended with the invasion and the provision of food and medicines in adequate amounts to the Iraqi people. Based on the UNICEF rates, that means over 100,000 Iraqis--mostly children--are alive now who would have died if Saddam Hssein had remained in power over the past 21 months.
No, the number of Iraqi civilian deaths is over 100,000. I saw it over at DU.
So, 1 million or more Iraquis and Iranians killed by Saddam Hussein and the mullahs, another 10,000 killed by "insurgent" terrorist Islamofascist thugs and murderers, and how many killed by American combat forces?
Did these same so called "peace activists" happen to have an ACCOUNTING OF HOW MANY SADDAM AND HIS REGUIME KILLED?????? Hundreds of thousands are suspected! Did these @$$holes get that count. Oh, wait, they are ignoring that. WWII killed millions, but they ignored the millions of Jews murdered by the Nazi's. That didn't count. Are these "human shields" going over and human shield protect the people when they vote???? I thought not!!! (and I am not turning the rant off!!! either!!! Because I hate liberals, democrats, socialists and communists)!
Under Clinton we kept hearing about the number of *children* killed by handguns. A look into the validity of the stats revealed that the numbers included the 18-19 y.o. gangbangers killing each other and getting shot by police while in the commission of a crime....
Some of these *civilians*, no doubt fall into this category as well....
How is that possible?
Less than a year ago it was 100,000!
Ted Kennedy, Barbara Boxer, Michael Moron and others told us so!
"...between 9,999 and 10,586 civilians..."
Sodomy Insane killed more than that number, each month.
What an absolute a55hole! We are responsible for civilians killed by terrorists? But not resoponsible for the civilians NOT now being killed by Saddam and his murderous thugs?
An outstanding analysis; good debunking of left - wing twaddle. A fine example of why this site is my preferred news source...
And just who has been killing these Iraqi civilians? It sure isn't the U.S.
When Stalin murdered 20 million civilians, liberals either said nothing or sang Stalin's praises in the New York Times.
Liberals were also silent when the North Vietnamese overran the South and murdered 2 million, and when Pol Pot took over Cambodia and proceded to murder 1.5 million -- except for Hillary Clinton, who openly applauded Pol Pot on the floor of the UN General Assembly.
But when 10,000 Iraqi civilians die at the hands of terrorist fellow muslims, the liberals can't stop wailing about it and, of course, blaming it on George Bush.
The number of alien space ships in New Jersey has passed 1,000, peace activists tracking the casualties say.
That's because when the Americans were doing the bombing, we didn't TARGET civilians. Also, WAY fewer Iraqis have died since this war began than when Sadaam was still in power!
Who is killing all these Iraqi civilians, now? Their Muslim brothers are doing the killing, and I think with the election this weekend, we'll see just what the Iraqis think of the terrorists in their midst.
This is just as looney as the Sunnis calling for a six-month delay in the elections because of a lack of security. The lack of security is because of the Sunnis blowing up everything in sight with IEDs.
Mr Sloboda: "In a very real sense we are responsible for them."
Well....you need to do a better job of protecting them.
So at which point will the Iraqi people finally get sick and tired of this, say enough is enough and deal with this scum themselves? Hell, like every house has an AK. Or is it always going to be Americans or Brits or whom ever who has to clean up their own mess. Mind boggling, considering the vast majority of the casualties are civilians.
The good news is blacks, homosexuals, the homeless, women and children are affected least.
What a bunch of CRAP!!.. First of all how many of these civilians were killed by terrorists or bathists? Secondly, given Saddam and his regime killed roughly 2 MILLION IRAQIs during his 30 years in power, that means another roughly 56,666 Iraqi' civilians in the last 12 months would have been dead, along with this 10,000 number JUST TO EQUAL the AVERAGE of Saddams abuses.....
These communists just need to be laughed off the stage like the unserious jokes that they are.