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The Loss of Freedoms List (Vanity Post)
Cornpone | 25 Jan 2005 | Cornpone

Posted on 01/25/2005 4:37:42 PM PST by Cornpone

Dear Freepers,

I'm getting old and perhaps a little wacky but as I look back over my life I continue to try and understand how my country hasn't quite turned out the way my mother and father brought me up to believe it should be and what it was I was always raised to defend. So I've started making a list of those things that just seem to represent a betrayal of what I always thought America is about...freedom. Its a short list, I'm still working on it and I know many, if not most, will not agree with everything on it. But I'm sure everyone has something to add to it...like the state of medical care in this country which I haven't even begun to think about. Anyway, they are simple things that individually don't amount to much. But, taken together they represent a fundamental change in our culture if you think about it. Please help me add to this list. I don't know what I will do with it. Perhaps I'll just go nail it on the doors of Congress..not likely. I'd rather nail it on the doors of the White House except we can't really go there anymore...another freedom lost.

• Mandatory motorcycle helmet laws

• Mandatory automobile seatbelt laws

• Mandatory boating lifejacket laws

• Increasing erosion of property rights

• Increasing regulation of alcohol consumption, tobacco use and firearms possession

• Virtual elimination of the right to self defense

• Denial of the right to carry a weapon for self defense

• Hate crime laws that ridiculously imply that the murder of one human being is more heinous than the murder of another based on some politically motivated criteria

• Encroachment on the constitutional right to assembly

• Increasing attempts to limit our constitutional right to free speech through hate speech laws that seek to dampen dissident opinions

• Increasing restrictions on demonstrations of personal faith with a bias against Christians

• Increasing restrictions on hunting

• Increasing restrictions on fishing

• Increasing restrictions on the traditional use of fireworks

• Increasing restrictions on traditional methods of outdoor cooking

• Increasing restrictions on water rights and usage

• Increasing government incursion and attempts to regulate the possession of domestic animals which in all cases don’t happen to be ‘pets’

• Unfair taxation to fund social practices abhorrent to most Americans

• Government advocacy of socially deviant lifestyles

• Government attempts to redefine millennia-old family relationships and bonds, i.e., gay marriage

• Affirmative action laws and policies that unjustly punish and deny opportunity to current generations based on the shortcomings of generations long past

• Ridiculous product liability judgments that seek to limit access and deny choice through judicial activism rather than legislative debate

Add your thoughts to the list please.

God Bless our Forefathers and God Bless You


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1 posted on 01/25/2005 4:37:43 PM PST by Cornpone
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To: Cornpone
Government advocacy of socially deviant lifestyles

How does this interfere with your freedoms?

2 posted on 01/25/2005 4:42:25 PM PST by Kleon
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To: Cornpone
Add this: car drivers disregarding traffic laws
people jumping in their car several times a day instead of asking if this trip is really necessary
3 posted on 01/25/2005 4:42:39 PM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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To: Kleon

End of the right of anonymous travel.

Requirement to interface with government whether you want to or not (income tax returns, for instance).

Over zealous building codes destroy right to do as you please with your property.


4 posted on 01/25/2005 4:45:41 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: Cornpone

Elimination of the right to defend our borders against ILLEGAL immigration.


5 posted on 01/25/2005 4:46:15 PM PST by Momaw Nadon ("...with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world.")
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To: Cornpone

most recent, allowed dog sniffing in your vehicle


6 posted on 01/25/2005 4:46:25 PM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: Cornpone

It started with mandatory auto license and registration laws that started guess where? Taxxachusetts in 1903.

http://taor.agitator.dynip.com/on_law.htm


7 posted on 01/25/2005 4:46:50 PM PST by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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To: Kleon
Government advocacy of socially deviant lifestyles... How does this interfere with your freedoms?

I'm paying for it through my tax dollars and I don't believe it meets the constitutional test of the 'common good.' Its like playing poker against your own money.

8 posted on 01/25/2005 4:48:56 PM PST by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Hit'em in the Head)
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To: Cornpone

Bush's fault, right?


9 posted on 01/25/2005 4:55:04 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican (...........IN GOD WE TRUST..........everything else is just target practice............)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
"Bush's fault, right?"

I could hardly blame a man for problems that began before his birth.

10 posted on 01/25/2005 4:58:05 PM PST by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Hit'em in the Head)
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To: Kleon
"Government advocacy of socially deviant lifestyles"

"How does this interfere with your freedoms?"

When Clinton altered military policies concerning sexual preferences he opened up a can of worms. When soldiers go into the "field" they are provided 1 shelter half. Two soldiers join the "halves" together to make a tent. That tent is shared for sleeping . I think that certain Troops might takes exception to such sleeping conditions. Amplify that sentiment in a barracks or a ship or in other situations requiring close living quarters. 

The bottom line is that it could be bad for morale. That could effect individual performance. The Military could lose a battle because of disgruntled Troops compelled to endorse a lifestyle  which personally offends them. Losing a battle could result in losing a war. Losing a war might interfere with our freedoms!

Simplistic for sure, but there are reasons that the military has policies, and society has mores.

11 posted on 01/25/2005 4:58:06 PM PST by Radix (Free snow. All you can handle. You haul!)
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To: Cornpone
The so called "War On Drugs" has spawned a lot of this crap.

It's definitely time to knock lawmakers down from their high horses!


12 posted on 01/25/2005 5:00:22 PM PST by unixfox (Close the borders, problems solved!)
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To: Cornpone

Oh, rent control in cities is a big infringement.

Here in Massachusetts a court ordered a private country club which receives no tax money to allow in a group of women as full fledged members against the wishes of the club members and owners.

There are many many examples.


13 posted on 01/25/2005 5:01:54 PM PST by Radix (Free snow. All you can handle. You haul!)
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To: Kleon

Because our government is based on moral laws. When our government promotes immorality (and not just homosexuality), the nation suffers. Most immoral activities are hurtful to families.


14 posted on 01/25/2005 5:02:59 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: Jack Black

Social security numbers on everything.


15 posted on 01/25/2005 5:03:42 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: RightWhale

Thanks for your contribution. I'll have to consider how to turn it into a lost freedom but I'm sure it can be done. But, what I really think you're highlighting is the rise of selfishness in America and the loss of civil respect for others.


16 posted on 01/25/2005 5:15:54 PM PST by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Hit'em in the Head)
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To: Cornpone

You got it. This works two ways. With freedom comes responsibility.


17 posted on 01/25/2005 5:18:03 PM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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To: Cornpone

Use of litigation to control peoples behavior. Smoking. Soon eating.


18 posted on 01/25/2005 5:19:57 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: Cornpone

I would suggest that perhaps your list would be better served by dividing issues into state and federal ones.

Many of the issues you note are state issues, not national ones, and best solved by a return to federalism.

Of course, there are issues on your list that are indeed problems at the federal level, and more difficult to address.


19 posted on 01/25/2005 5:24:39 PM PST by swilhelm73 (Appeasers believe that if you keep on throwing steaks to a tiger, the tiger will become a vegetarian)
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To: Cornpone

Here's some more for you:

The creation of policies that virtually force our children into public schools.

Increasing federal intervention in the public school curricula.

Virtual elimination of accessibility to the public lands.

The creation of tax policies that undermine our Agricultural industries.


20 posted on 01/25/2005 5:24:58 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy ("Be ever vigilant, for you know not when the master is coming")
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