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The Babs and Klavern Show! (Senate Condi Debate Live Thread)
C-Span ^ | today | me

Posted on 01/25/2005 4:40:04 AM PST by section9

Yes folks, I know it's a couple of hours away, but for you loyal C-Span listeners, the debate will be carried live on C-Span 2 today. Live streaming on C-Span 2's server for those of you with high bandwidth carriers.

Box-o-Rox has asked for a full hour in which to call Dr. Rice a lying slut. Meantime, the senior Senator from the state of West Virginia has brought some friends of his down to testify to Rice's unfitness for her office:

Other Dhimmis have asked for time to object to Dr. Rice as well. Meantime, I wonder if McCain or Hagel will actually rise to her defense?

(...sound of crickets...)

Arlen Specter? Anybody?

Be Seeing You,

Chris


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To: Soul Seeker
Unless asked personally by the President, I agree with you that i do not believe she'd even consider Senator.

I'm not sure she would consider Senator even then, and I can almost guarantee W wouldn't ask.

Here's some observations I've made recently that have me thinking about another possibility. See if you agree.

It seems to me that Dick Cheney has been much, much more visible since November 2nd than he formerly was. That includes the Imus interview, interview with Brit Hume, being the front man on the obvious threat regarding Iran, the inauguration, the trip to Afghanistan, the coming trip to Auschwitz and visits to European leaders, and so on. Not that many, but you could not list that many non-campaign public events that he did in the entire 3 years after 9/11.

Visibility during the inauguration goes without saying, but he seemed to be more 'out there,' more animated, and allowing himself to be more visible than usual. Also, W was heavy in his praise of Dick Cheney during and after the inauguration. That might be to lay to rest any rumors of Cheney's resignation, or just to express his genuine gratitude and admiration for the man, which is no doubt considerable, but it could have other reasons as well.

In the VP's interview with somebody (Brit, I think) he listed a number of reasons why he told George Bush in 1999 that he was not a good choice for VP. I could be mistaken, but I do not believe he listed as one of the reasons that he would never run for President, and therefore could be a Republican liability (in the future). We have heard him say many times that one of his strengths to the President is that he is not running for President himself. I could be mistaken, but I don't believe I've heard him say that in public lately.

Also, in a recent interview he was extolling the virtues of Condoleeza Rice at great length. Now, that might be only in support of her candidacy for SoS. But somehow I read between the lines to other possibilities.

All of these things leave me to wonder -- is it possible that Dick Cheney is contemplating a change of heart (quite literally) about running for President in 2008 if his health continues to be good through the next 2-3 years? And probably if he could talk his family into it. I'm thinking Lynne might not be enthusiastic about the possibility.

Is it possible that W, Cheney and Condoleeza Rice, maybe with the agreement of Republican higher-ups, have decided among themselves to leave open the possibility of a Cheney-Rice ticket for 2008, with Rice to run in 2012?

Just food for thought. And it's definitely not just wishful thinking on my part. Dick Cheney is one of my favorite men and most-admired politicians ever. I would really hate to see him thrown into that maelstrom. But if he were to choose it, it would certainly be because he wants it. I know I'd work hard for a Cheney-Rice ticket.

Just watch to see if he becomes far more visible in the next year, and far more accessible to the media. That will likely tell us all we need to know.

581 posted on 01/25/2005 12:15:10 PM PST by JustaCowgirl (You have seen that life is fragile, and evil is real, and courage triumphs -- George W Bush)
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To: Peach

Nice work, Peach.


582 posted on 01/25/2005 12:15:43 PM PST by syriacus (The whole World will be watching the Rice SMEARINGS as Condi is blamed for every "error" since 2001)
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To: Mo1
Great quotes! Can you post the link to the sources for them?

Thanks!
583 posted on 01/25/2005 12:15:52 PM PST by UlmoLordOfWaters
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To: Mo1
Sheets is a bleeping HYPOCRITE!!!

Hey, keep it down...you've awoken The Swimmer. Now he needs a drink [snicker].


584 posted on 01/25/2005 12:15:53 PM PST by Wolfstar (Have YOU laughed at a Democrat today?)
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To: Mo1

LOL.

And here's what the Clinton administration thought about the links between OBL and Saddam.

Why, they got a federal indictment against OBL and mentioned his relationship with Saddam.
The Clinton Justice Department's indictment against OBL in federal court which mentions the terrorist's connections to Iraq.

November 4, 1998. The federal indictment
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/985906/posts?page=30#30


585 posted on 01/25/2005 12:15:56 PM PST by Peach
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To: Mo1

Did you know that 9/11 families sued Iraq in federal court?

September 11 Victims Sue Iraq.
September 4, 2002. BBC.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2237332.stm

Families sue Iraq over 9/11. Thousands of 9/11 victims and family members sue Iraq based on evidence that Iraq knew the attacks were coming, approved the attacks, and supported Al Qaeda for a decade. The lawsuit also notes Iraq's involvement in the first WTC attack.
September 5, 2002. CBS.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/05/september11/main520874.shtml

One more democrat who used to once believe in the links between OBL and Saddam:

Gephardt says lots of intelligence links OBL and Saddam.
October 6, 2002. Newsmax.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/764011/posts


586 posted on 01/25/2005 12:17:13 PM PST by Peach
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To: Soul Seeker

I want to know why is it ok for liberals to slander black conservatives but when some republicans criticize Kofi Annan, they are deemed as racists?


587 posted on 01/25/2005 12:18:10 PM PST by youngtory (Prime Minister Dithers to all of Canada-"Have a CRAPPY NEW YEAR")
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To: MrsEmmaPeel

Byrd is criticizing the administration for not "connecting the dots before 9/11" "the dog that didn't bark", etc.
He just finished criticizing Rice for attempting to guess where the next danger might be coming from. Some of the "aluminum tubes, possible yellow cake interests" may have been off base, but obviously they were attempting to connect the dots. Now the democrats are trying to hold administration responsible.


588 posted on 01/25/2005 12:18:21 PM PST by oldbrowser (You lost the election...........get over it)
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To: areafiftyone
Well maybe those quotes from the Byrd S#$%T should be sent to our esteemed Republican Senators.

I think the quotes from ALL of the Senators who have been blowing their hot air today ought to be sent to our esteemed Republican Senators as well as our friends in the media. Send this stuff to Sean Hannity, Joe Scarborough, Rush, etc...

589 posted on 01/25/2005 12:18:23 PM PST by blinachka (Vechnaya Pamyat Daddy... xoxo)
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To: syriacus

Thanks.

The left thinks we can't look this stuff up. But in the 90's they wrote dozens of articles about the world's alarm at the growing relationship between Osama and Saddam.

List of newspaper articles written in the 90's which mention the world's concern regarding the growing relationship between OBL and Saddam.
July 14, 2003. FrontPage Magazine.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/946809/posts?page=1


590 posted on 01/25/2005 12:18:28 PM PST by Peach
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To: mewzilla

Can Sheets shake anymore drinking that water..


591 posted on 01/25/2005 12:18:36 PM PST by Dog
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To: Wolfstar
"The only accountability that the President recognizes is the November elections......"

Sheets literally chokes on the words!!!!!

592 posted on 01/25/2005 12:18:46 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: JustaCowgirl
We have heard him say many times that one of his strengths to the President is that he is not running for President himself. I could be mistaken, but I don't believe I've heard him say that in public lately.

He said he wasn't running for anything in '08 during the VP debate.

593 posted on 01/25/2005 12:18:49 PM PST by DaveMSmith (Thought from the eye closes the understanding, but thought from the understanding opens the eye. DLW)
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To: areafiftyone

Byrd just used the term "architect" --- I tell you this was planned by every democrat to try to compare Condi to Hitler's regime!!!


Those damn slimeballs!!!!!!


594 posted on 01/25/2005 12:18:51 PM PST by Txsleuth (Proud to be a Texan)
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To: areafiftyone
Is the "Human Drone" finished yet?

He hasn't quit. but he's coughing and getting himself a drink of water.

I think he sees this as his moment of glory, his Mr. Smith Goes to Washington moment.

595 posted on 01/25/2005 12:19:12 PM PST by syriacus (The whole World will be watching the Rice SMEARINGS as Condi is blamed for every "error" since 2001)
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To: Dog

Cut the sound... wide shot to dias... ahhhh... Sheets takes a drink of water!


596 posted on 01/25/2005 12:19:52 PM PST by DaveMSmith (Thought from the eye closes the understanding, but thought from the understanding opens the eye. DLW)
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To: Txsleuth

Exactly!

When I heard Kennedy say Condi was the architect of the administration's policies, I thought they were trying to give people the image of the architects of Hitler'z final solution.

It's an ugly connotation when used in this way.


597 posted on 01/25/2005 12:19:57 PM PST by Peach
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To: Txsleuth

Dems will be planning and plotting for the next 4 years. We will have to watch them very carefully and prepare our ammo.


598 posted on 01/25/2005 12:20:25 PM PST by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: areafiftyone
"One's family is the most important thing in life. I look at it this way: One of these days I'll be over in a hospital somewhere with four walls around me. And the only people who'll be with me will be my family."

So sayeth the Human Drone, Sen. Robert C. Byrd

599 posted on 01/25/2005 12:20:26 PM PST by Wolfstar (Have YOU laughed at a Democrat today?)
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To: Peach

The media certainly were pushing Iraq as being connected to AQ and possibly behind 9/11 shortly after September 11, 2001. A compilation of media comments and articles:
November 17, 2003
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/984758/posts


600 posted on 01/25/2005 12:20:44 PM PST by Peach
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