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Ron Paul - Want to Reform Social Security? Stop Spending.
House Web Site ^ | 1-24-2005 | Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX)

Posted on 01/24/2005 10:20:14 AM PST by jmc813

Social Security reform promises to be the biggest domestic issue this year in Washington, but most of the proposals are nothing more than flim-flam. The only honest solution to the future insolvency of the program is for Congress to stop spending so much money. Unless Congress makes real cuts in spending-- and stops spending Social Security taxes on completely unrelated programs-- millions of Americans simply will not receive even a fraction of the money they paid into Social Security. Ignore the rhetoric about tax increases and cuts in benefits, as though you are to blame for the problem! All Social Security obligations could be met if Congress did not spend so much on other things.

In the 1930s, Social Security was presented to the American people as a social insurance program, with individuals paying a monthly “premium” in exchange for retirement benefits later. It was supposed to be a forced savings program, based on the assumption that some people would be unable or unwilling to save for their older years. Seven decades later, however, the ratio of younger working people to older retirees has changed dramatically, exposing the Ponzi-like congressional raid on the system itself. What has not changed, however, is our willingness to accept the notion that the government should force us to save for our older years.

Notice that neither political party proposes letting people opt out of Social Security, which exposes the lie that your contributions are set aside and saved. After all, if your contributions really are put aside for your retirement, the money will be there earning interest, right? If your money is put away in a trust fund account with your name on it, what difference would it make if your neighbor chooses not to participate in the program?

The truth, of course, is that your contributions are not put aside. Social Security is simply a tax. Like all taxes, the money collected is spent immediately as general revenues to fund the federal government. The Social Security trust fund does not exist, and Social Security “surpluses” are nothing more than an accounting ledger showing that contributions exceeded benefits paid for a given calendar year-- not that the excess was put aside. Social Security benefits are paid each year from general funds, like other federal programs. Since these programs and overall spending keep increasing, the government can’t give up any sources of tax revenue. Allowing people to opt out of Social Security would force the federal government to admit it has been stealing money from Social Security for decades.

The administration speaks of private accounts, but government-managed investment of Social Security funds is not privatization at all. True capitalism by definition operates without government interference, and we should oppose further government involvement in the financial markets. After all, which government officials will decide what stocks, bonds, mutual funds, or other investment vehicles are approved? Which politicians will you trust to decide what your portfolio may contain? Imagine the lobbyists fighting over which special interests will have their favored investments approved for Social Security accounts. Political favoritism, rather than market performance, will determine what investments are allowed, and Social Security in essence will become a huge source of taxpayer-provided investment capital.

If the administration truly wants to give people more control over their retirement dollars, why not simply reduce payroll taxes and let them keep their own money to invest privately as they see fit? This is the true private solution.

Your money has never been safe in the government’s hands, and it never will be. Governments spend money; it’s just their nature. It is preposterous to believe our government is capable of simply sitting on a huge pile of money without touching it because it’s earmarked for one purpose or another. No matter what politicians promise, Social Security reform will not change the fact that your money is taken from your paycheck and sent to Washington, where it will be spent.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ronpaul; socialsecurity
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1 posted on 01/24/2005 10:20:15 AM PST by jmc813
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To: jmc813

Read later.


2 posted on 01/24/2005 10:26:06 AM PST by JustAnotherSavage (When conservatives break their principles they seem to become casual about breaking the law, too.)
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To: jmc813

I have a fool proof way to balance the budget. Stop all congressional pay raises until the budget is balanced, SS is well financed into 2100, and the debt is starting to be paid down. I figure this will take about 2 or 3 weeks once we give the lying, thiefing, dirtballs in Washington this motivation.


3 posted on 01/24/2005 10:28:48 AM PST by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: jmc813
After all, which government officials will decide what stocks, bonds, mutual funds, or other investment vehicles are approved? Which politicians will you trust to decide what your portfolio may contain? Imagine the lobbyists fighting over which special interests will have their favored investments approved for Social Security accounts. Political favoritism, rather than market performance, will determine what investments are allowed, and Social Security in essence will become a huge source of taxpayer-provided investment capital.

Good, at least we have one person in Congress standing up for economic sanity. These points bear repeating, over and over.

4 posted on 01/24/2005 10:33:58 AM PST by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: jmc813
What has not changed, however, is our willingness to accept the notion that the government should force us to save for our older years.

Bears constant repetition.

5 posted on 01/24/2005 10:34:00 AM PST by Protagoras (No one is fit to be a master and no one deserves to be a slave. GWB 1-20-05)
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To: jmc813

He is my congressman and he came to my Christmas Party. We just love him.


6 posted on 01/24/2005 10:34:25 AM PST by buffyt (The Liberals are HYPO-CRAZY with Hipocracy! Protesting again FREEDOM now!)
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To: LPM1888

Try to educate yourself. Read the facts.


7 posted on 01/24/2005 10:37:50 AM PST by Protagoras (No one is fit to be a master and no one deserves to be a slave. GWB 1-20-05)
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To: Protagoras

The best thing would be if they would all just admit that Social Security withholding is treated by the Federal Government as just one more source of tax revenue, and all future retirees, just like all past retirees receiveing Social Security will be funded by other taxes or by government borrowing. Then at least people might look at whether this is a tax they want to pay, and whether this is a welfare benefit that is creating or detracting from the general welfare. I know my answer.


8 posted on 01/24/2005 10:39:05 AM PST by babble-on
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To: TXBSAFH

Why limit just the raises? I say we cut all salaries off, period, until they get their act together.


9 posted on 01/24/2005 10:40:53 AM PST by dinodino
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To: buffyt
He is my congressman and he came to my Christmas Party. We just love him.

Envy bump. I contribute to his campaign fund even though I live in GA.

10 posted on 01/24/2005 10:41:59 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: from occupied ga

He is a local doctor who answered to a higher calling! He is a VERY GOOD man, too.


11 posted on 01/24/2005 10:43:54 AM PST by buffyt (The Liberals are HYPO-CRAZY with Hipocracy! They are protesting against FREEDOM now!)
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To: jmc813

I doubt many people will read this. They don't want to know the truth about SS or if they do know the truth they don't want to think about it. If every American knew the truth about social security, and how politicians of both parties steal money from the program they would be outraged and politicians would be forced to stop.

Perhaps it is wishful thinking on my part. It does seem strange that the theft of billions of dollars is tolerated by the people of this country though. Strange that most of them think that it IS ethical for politicians to steal SS money and use it for other things, but refusing to pay SS taxes to the thieves IS NOT ethical. The notion of right and wrong is twisted upside down in this country.

Whats right has become wrong and whats wrong has become right. It's a government of lies lead by thieves, and the people are the fools who allow it.


12 posted on 01/24/2005 10:45:44 AM PST by monday
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To: babble-on
The best thing would be if they would all just admit that Social Security withholding is treated by the Federal Government as just one more source of tax revenue,

They won't do that, they lie. Always and everywhere, they lie. It's all about power.

13 posted on 01/24/2005 10:47:28 AM PST by Protagoras (No one is fit to be a master and no one deserves to be a slave. GWB 1-20-05)
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To: jmc813

Bush's SS "reform" will be a huge windfall for our rulers. Can you imagine the lobbying dollars that are going to flow into Congress in order to get a piece of the action?


14 posted on 01/24/2005 10:48:10 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: dinodino
I say we cut all salaries off, period, until they get their act together.

You can do that every election day. But nobody does.

15 posted on 01/24/2005 10:48:50 AM PST by Protagoras (No one is fit to be a master and no one deserves to be a slave. GWB 1-20-05)
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To: monday

Many Freepers support SS.


16 posted on 01/24/2005 10:50:13 AM PST by Protagoras (No one is fit to be a master and no one deserves to be a slave. GWB 1-20-05)
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To: jmc813
"Want to Reform Social Security"

How about taking it out of general funding and put it back into its own account. ( This was done by LBJ to use SS $$$ to fund the Viet Nam war.....and cover his deficit spending.)

Placing SS off budget makes it self funding and NOT subject to the exorbitant spending by other areas of the gov't.
17 posted on 01/24/2005 10:51:28 AM PST by Smartaleck
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To: TXBSAFH
"SS is well financed into 2100, and the debt is starting to be paid down."

This is incorrect. SS has zero funds. The debt is NOT being paid down, and the govt budget is the largest and has the biggest deficit (measured by difference between Govt. income and spending) in history. That you would think otherwise is bizarre?
18 posted on 01/24/2005 10:54:54 AM PST by monday
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To: monday

stop their pay UNTIL SS is well financed, etc.


19 posted on 01/24/2005 11:00:07 AM PST by babble-on
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To: Protagoras
"Many Freepers support SS."

Oh, so, so true.

It is amazing to me all of the Freepers and Rush Limbaugh who support the "status quo" of government interference in our lives over the last 70 years as "conservatism" when most of this unconstitutionally enacted government interference was instituted by the democrats.

Social Security is one of those "interferences." Medicaid is the same. Minimum wage laws the same. Interdiction laws. Secret Service. FDA. FTC. FAA.

20 posted on 01/24/2005 11:02:45 AM PST by tahiti
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