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Ron Paul - Want to Reform Social Security? Stop Spending.
House Web Site ^ | 1-24-2005 | Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX)

Posted on 01/24/2005 10:20:14 AM PST by jmc813

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1 posted on 01/24/2005 10:20:15 AM PST by jmc813
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To: jmc813

Read later.


2 posted on 01/24/2005 10:26:06 AM PST by JustAnotherSavage (When conservatives break their principles they seem to become casual about breaking the law, too.)
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To: jmc813

I have a fool proof way to balance the budget. Stop all congressional pay raises until the budget is balanced, SS is well financed into 2100, and the debt is starting to be paid down. I figure this will take about 2 or 3 weeks once we give the lying, thiefing, dirtballs in Washington this motivation.


3 posted on 01/24/2005 10:28:48 AM PST by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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After all, which government officials will decide what stocks, bonds, mutual funds, or other investment vehicles are approved? Which politicians will you trust to decide what your portfolio may contain? Imagine the lobbyists fighting over which special interests will have their favored investments approved for Social Security accounts. Political favoritism, rather than market performance, will determine what investments are allowed, and Social Security in essence will become a huge source of taxpayer-provided investment capital.

Good, at least we have one person in Congress standing up for economic sanity. These points bear repeating, over and over.

4 posted on 01/24/2005 10:33:58 AM PST by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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What has not changed, however, is our willingness to accept the notion that the government should force us to save for our older years.

Bears constant repetition.

5 posted on 01/24/2005 10:34:00 AM PST by Protagoras (No one is fit to be a master and no one deserves to be a slave. GWB 1-20-05)
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To: jmc813

He is my congressman and he came to my Christmas Party. We just love him.


6 posted on 01/24/2005 10:34:25 AM PST by buffyt (The Liberals are HYPO-CRAZY with Hipocracy! Protesting again FREEDOM now!)
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To: LPM1888

Try to educate yourself. Read the facts.


7 posted on 01/24/2005 10:37:50 AM PST by Protagoras (No one is fit to be a master and no one deserves to be a slave. GWB 1-20-05)
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To: Protagoras

The best thing would be if they would all just admit that Social Security withholding is treated by the Federal Government as just one more source of tax revenue, and all future retirees, just like all past retirees receiveing Social Security will be funded by other taxes or by government borrowing. Then at least people might look at whether this is a tax they want to pay, and whether this is a welfare benefit that is creating or detracting from the general welfare. I know my answer.


8 posted on 01/24/2005 10:39:05 AM PST by babble-on
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To: TXBSAFH

Why limit just the raises? I say we cut all salaries off, period, until they get their act together.


9 posted on 01/24/2005 10:40:53 AM PST by dinodino
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To: buffyt
He is my congressman and he came to my Christmas Party. We just love him.

Envy bump. I contribute to his campaign fund even though I live in GA.

10 posted on 01/24/2005 10:41:59 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: from occupied ga

He is a local doctor who answered to a higher calling! He is a VERY GOOD man, too.


11 posted on 01/24/2005 10:43:54 AM PST by buffyt (The Liberals are HYPO-CRAZY with Hipocracy! They are protesting against FREEDOM now!)
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To: jmc813

I doubt many people will read this. They don't want to know the truth about SS or if they do know the truth they don't want to think about it. If every American knew the truth about social security, and how politicians of both parties steal money from the program they would be outraged and politicians would be forced to stop.

Perhaps it is wishful thinking on my part. It does seem strange that the theft of billions of dollars is tolerated by the people of this country though. Strange that most of them think that it IS ethical for politicians to steal SS money and use it for other things, but refusing to pay SS taxes to the thieves IS NOT ethical. The notion of right and wrong is twisted upside down in this country.

Whats right has become wrong and whats wrong has become right. It's a government of lies lead by thieves, and the people are the fools who allow it.


12 posted on 01/24/2005 10:45:44 AM PST by monday
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The best thing would be if they would all just admit that Social Security withholding is treated by the Federal Government as just one more source of tax revenue,

They won't do that, they lie. Always and everywhere, they lie. It's all about power.

13 posted on 01/24/2005 10:47:28 AM PST by Protagoras (No one is fit to be a master and no one deserves to be a slave. GWB 1-20-05)
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To: jmc813

Bush's SS "reform" will be a huge windfall for our rulers. Can you imagine the lobbying dollars that are going to flow into Congress in order to get a piece of the action?


14 posted on 01/24/2005 10:48:10 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: dinodino
I say we cut all salaries off, period, until they get their act together.

You can do that every election day. But nobody does.

15 posted on 01/24/2005 10:48:50 AM PST by Protagoras (No one is fit to be a master and no one deserves to be a slave. GWB 1-20-05)
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To: monday

Many Freepers support SS.


16 posted on 01/24/2005 10:50:13 AM PST by Protagoras (No one is fit to be a master and no one deserves to be a slave. GWB 1-20-05)
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"Want to Reform Social Security"

How about taking it out of general funding and put it back into its own account. ( This was done by LBJ to use SS $$$ to fund the Viet Nam war.....and cover his deficit spending.)

Placing SS off budget makes it self funding and NOT subject to the exorbitant spending by other areas of the gov't.
17 posted on 01/24/2005 10:51:28 AM PST by Smartaleck
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"SS is well financed into 2100, and the debt is starting to be paid down."

This is incorrect. SS has zero funds. The debt is NOT being paid down, and the govt budget is the largest and has the biggest deficit (measured by difference between Govt. income and spending) in history. That you would think otherwise is bizarre?
18 posted on 01/24/2005 10:54:54 AM PST by monday
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To: monday

stop their pay UNTIL SS is well financed, etc.


19 posted on 01/24/2005 11:00:07 AM PST by babble-on
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To: Protagoras
"Many Freepers support SS."

Oh, so, so true.

It is amazing to me all of the Freepers and Rush Limbaugh who support the "status quo" of government interference in our lives over the last 70 years as "conservatism" when most of this unconstitutionally enacted government interference was instituted by the democrats.

Social Security is one of those "interferences." Medicaid is the same. Minimum wage laws the same. Interdiction laws. Secret Service. FDA. FTC. FAA.

20 posted on 01/24/2005 11:02:45 AM PST by tahiti
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