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UPDATE: Military Recruiter Chased Off by Protesters (Seattle)
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Posted on 01/20/2005 7:30:43 PM PST by USArmySpouse

Edited on 02/04/2005 5:22:35 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

A picture's worth a thousand words. My question: Why didn't the security guards escort the PROTESTERS out of the building??? Disgusting.

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To: StarCMC; trussell; Brad's Gramma; Howie66; speedy; Hondo1952; Lando Lincoln; ...

URGENT ACTION BY ANY WASHINGTON STATE FREEPERS NEEDED ASAP!>>>>>

AND- Would you like the number to call someone at Students against the War who organized this stunt? Well here you go!

This is an email which I received regarding the latest in the case of the students who broke the law and ran the Army recruiter off the Seattle Campus. Please ping anyone who you think would be interested. Perhaps someone can freep their press conference????

________________________________________________________ This is the email

hi, this is a follow up email concerning the press release sent out from Students Against War, a Seattle Central Community College student association.

In protest of George Bush's inauguration on January 20th there was a walkout on the Seattle Central campus. During the walkout a group of well over one hundred students gathered around the table of two military recruiters. The recruiters were then escorted off campus by security. Some actions taken by participants have brought about disciplinary threats against Students Against War. An ultimatum was presented by the school administration - "If we do not receive a copy of your apology letter by Thursday, February 3, 2005, your club will cease to be in good standing on campus," said the letter from the Administration.

Students Against War along with members of the outside peace community will be holding a press conference tomarrow at 12:00 noon on the south plaza of SCCC.

if you have any questions please contact Gerald, a SAW representive, at: 1-206-329-2276 ___________________________________________________

spelling errors belongs to the stupid students against the war....

291 posted on 02/03/2005 6:37:56 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Just say no to the ACLU!)
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To: All

Here is some more:

Students Against War will hold a press conference regarding threatened disciplinary action by the Seattle Central Community College administration on Thursday February 3rd at 12 noon on the south plaza of Seattle Central Community College.

In protest of George Bush's inauguration on January 20th, students walked out on the Seattle Central campus. During the walkout a group of well over one hundred students surrounded a table of three military recruiters and chanted anti-war slogans until they were escorted off campus by security. Some actions taken by participants have brought about disciplinary threats against Students Against War. An ultimatum was presented by the school administration - "If we do not receive a copy of your apology letter by Thursday, February 3, 2005, your club will cease to be in good standing on campus," said the letter from the Administration.

SAW's official statement in response to the Seattle Central Administration:

The group Students Against War is not responsible for the actions taken against the military recruiters on the 20th of January. We do not have the authority to speak on behalf of the individuals involved.

Any disciplinary action taken against Students Against War is without precedent or basis. SAW engaged in two permitted actions on that day, which included the rally in the south plaza and the student march to Westlake Plaza. The congregation around the military recruiters was a spontaneous event carried out by people on their own accord. SAW cannot represent these individuals or their actions, and cannot be legally held accountable.

As to the actions themselves, students were expressing their feelings about the intrusion of the military into our schools. Military recruitment on campuses nationwide has been stepped up along with military spending, while funding for education has been repeatedly cut. Military recruiters on our campus prey on the lack of options for low-income students. SAW does not support sending our low-income youth to fight and die in a war that is unjust and unfair.

Students Against War is sorry, but not about the actions of the 20th. SAW is sorry that soldiers in Iraq are dying. SAW is sorry that billions of public tax dollars are being pumped bullet by bullet into foreign soil while increasing numbers of Americans live near or under the poverty line. SAW is supporting the troops by working to bring them home.

These are our sisters and brothers. If Sgt. Due was in Iraq, one among three military recruiters asked to leave, SAW would support his right to life and human decency by bringing him home. When our friends are sent to kill and die because they didn't have the money to pay for college, we say bring them home. Why should American soldiers face death and mutilation for the lies of the Bush administration? We say bring them home. We, as Students Against War, ask you as friends and families of soldiers, to defend those troops by bringing them home NOW.

To contact Students Against War, please call our spokesperson Gerald at 1-206-329-2276

294 posted on 02/03/2005 6:59:55 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Just say no to the ACLU!)
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To: kittymyrib

School is dropping it's demand for apology and student group is pushing for removal of all recruiters. This is the first article I have seen with Sgt. Due's statement of what happened.

Anti-war group targets recruiters Effort launched after campus clash By JAKE ELLISON
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER

A mob of Seattle Central Community College students chased military recruiters off campus last month, after a tense confrontation. Now a student anti-war group is stepping up efforts to keep them out for good.

Students Against War has launched a petition drive aimed at persuading administrators to order a halt to on-campus military recruiting.

The group points to a November ruling by the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. The Philadelphia-based court held that a college opposed to the policy barring gays and lesbians in the armed forces has a First Amendment right to protest by blocking access to military recruiters.

Central students opposed to the war in Iraq have been fighting the presence of military recruiters all year. The group organized a protest to coincide with President Bush's inauguration Jan. 20, but it started sooner than scheduled when several hundred students surrounded two Army recruiters.

The students hurled insults and water bottles, according to witnesses, forcing the recruiters to flee under the protection of campus security officers. There were no reports of injuries.

Administrators initially threatened to take disciplinary action against Students Against War, which denied any responsibility for the incident.

Yesterday, however, officials backed off their demand that the group apologize to the recruiters or be stripped of their affiliation with the college.

Central President Mildred Ollee said she dropped the ultimatum after discovering that members of other student groups were involved in the confrontation.

"I'm not prepared to go on a witch hunt," she said. "We did the best we could do in this, and I believe the students have learned something and we're going to move forward."

Leaders of the anti-war group told a small crowd of students yesterday that they intend to press for the military recruiting ban.

"We do not want the military in our schools asking our friends and family to fight for a war that is wrong," Nicole Thomas said. "We want recruiters out of our schools."

The incident was captured in a newspaper photograph that has made its way into conservative Web blogs. That spurred a wave of e-mails to Central administrators denouncing the conduct of the students.

One of the recruiters involved in the confrontation, Sgt. Jeffrey Due, said he was stunned how quickly things got out of hand. "I was in outright shock that they were protesting me," he said.

Due had been warned about the student walk-out demonstration, but said he didn't expect that kind of trouble. "They were all going by making off-hand comments and saying 'no war.' We just waved at them," Due said. "Five minutes later, there was just a mob of 500 people surrounding the table."

Due said he was hit in the head with newspapers, and water bottles whizzed by, pounding the vending machine and wall behind him.

The flap has energized Central's anti-war effort, sparking the petition drive. The group's goal is to get recruiters off campus "by legal means," said spokesman Gerald Lisi.

He argued that the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy is in conflict with the college's code barring discrimination on campus. While petitions circulate, the group is consulting with attorneys and researching the issue.

But Ollee pointed to a government rule that allows federal money to be withheld from any college that refuses to give military recruiters access to students and student-contact information.

"I am under the law and will comply with the law as long as it is the law," she said.

P-I reporter Jake Ellison can be reached at 206-448-8346 or jakeellison@seattlepi.com

301 posted on 02/04/2005 5:09:06 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Just say no to the ACLU!)
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To: cid89

Since he's Army, you should be able to email him at"

hisfirstname . hislastname @us.army.mil

Of course, there wouldn't be any spaces. Had to use spaces so it wouldn't show up as a link.


21 posted on 01/20/2005 7:46:04 PM PST by Promark
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To: RepublicanMensan

If they feel that strongly about it, they should demand that Bush remove any Air Cap over Seattle next time the mainland is attacked.


22 posted on 01/20/2005 7:48:06 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: RepublicanMensan

"A picture's worth a thousand words. My question: Why didn't the security guards escort the PROTESTERS out of the building??? Disgusting."

Yes, very. I am at the point where I know one out of two people I meet in this country I can't stand and consider an absolute enemy.


23 posted on 01/20/2005 7:49:44 PM PST by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: Texas_Jarhead

But I wouldn't call them 'fascists' - The American Heritage Dictionary defines fascism as "a system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism." Nothing wrong with that eh?


24 posted on 01/20/2005 7:49:51 PM PST by nuggler
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To: RepublicanMensan

25 posted on 01/20/2005 7:50:38 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Lefty Suicide Hotline: 1-800-BUSH-WON (thanks PJ-Comix!))
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

"If these universities receive federal funding, they should expel these students."

No, all federal funding should cease period. I don't want any of my tax money funding a variety of things in this country to include colleges, the ACLU, or the UN.


26 posted on 01/20/2005 7:51:17 PM PST by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: cid89
Perhaps this will help, go to the Contact link on this web page:

US Army Recruiting in Seattle

...Welcome to Army Recruiting in the Pacific Northwest

27 posted on 01/20/2005 7:51:34 PM PST by Buddy B
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To: RepublicanMensan

It really IS Vietnam all over again.

Why do I even bother defending this country?


28 posted on 01/20/2005 7:51:36 PM PST by Old Sarge (In for a penny, in for a pound, saddlin' up and Baghdad-bound!)
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To: Texas_Jarhead

The students have a right to protest and the RNC has a right to distribute their pictures as fundraisers and to hang the HateTheMilitary label on every Democrat who does not denounce the liberal wing of the Democrat Party.


29 posted on 01/20/2005 7:55:48 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: Old Sarge

Your defending the US Constitution. Not the moonbats who want to do away with it. These clowns are domestic enemies.


30 posted on 01/20/2005 7:56:05 PM PST by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: RepublicanMensan

Here - give them a piece of your mind:

http://www.seattlecentral.org/

President’s Office (206) 587-4144
Receptionist (Administration Center) (206) 587-5417
Computing Helpdesk (CENTRAL CAMPUS ONLY) (206) 587-6333
Foundation/Fund Development (206) 587-5491
Information Center (206) 587-3800
Mailroom (206) 587-6966
Planning and Research (206) 587-6942
Public Information Office (206) 587-4133
Registrar’s Office (206) 587-6918
Veteran’s Affairs Office V/TTY 587-4147

More exciting ph#s here

http://www.seattlecentral.org/dir/


31 posted on 01/20/2005 7:56:42 PM PST by dandelion (http://thequestionfairy.blogspot.com/)
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To: vox_freedom

Probably afraid to take any action that might be deemed politically incorrect. Disgraceful!


32 posted on 01/20/2005 7:56:45 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: RepublicanMensan

I am sick and tired of the police walking on eggs with the hatefilled fascist protesters. They should all be maced and loaded into the paddy wagon to cool their heels for a good long time. The police's tolerance of this kind of action only goes to show their approval to the anarchists.
Thus these episodes happen more often and get uglier.
The police forget they are to serve the innocent - not the guilty!


33 posted on 01/20/2005 7:57:23 PM PST by Paperdoll
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To: Old Sarge

Dont get discouraged, I can assure you not all college students feel the same way as these moonbats. I can also tell you that the vast majority of students at my campus support the military 100% (A lot of us have friends serving in Iraq right now).

Thanks for your service, btw.


34 posted on 01/20/2005 7:58:24 PM PST by somniferum
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To: nuggler
Of course you are more or less correct but I was hurried and the misconstrued meaning worked well. Authoritarian, totalitarian, or dictatorial might be more accurate but hey...

FYI - Merriam-Webster states the following for fascism
"2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control "
35 posted on 01/20/2005 7:59:45 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead (I believe in American Exceptionalism! Do you?)
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To: CyberCowboy777; farmfriend


36 posted on 01/20/2005 8:00:02 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Old Sarge

Old Sarge,Forgot to say congrats on your awad.I voted for you.Even though you are an XXXXXX:)


37 posted on 01/20/2005 8:00:27 PM PST by fatima
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To: Old Sarge

Because of the rest of us?

Seriously, these guys SHOULD have learned from Viet Nam that mistreatment of our miliary people is NOT a good thing!

Fortunately, these guys are no longer in the majority and in today's world get the scorn they deserve. I know this for a fact because when I drive down the road I'm surrounded by cars with MULTIPLE 'we support our troops' stickers.

Don't take it to heart. Just a few losers doing what losers do best.


38 posted on 01/20/2005 8:00:33 PM PST by Middle-O-Road (In favor of blowing all terrorists to China, via other hotter places where they'll linger a while.)
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To: RepublicanMensan

I cannot believe kids are allowed to behave like this in schools. This is very frightening. We have fallen further than I thought. These kids should be expelled.


39 posted on 01/20/2005 8:00:37 PM PST by Paperdoll
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To: Paperdoll

They aren't kids. They are adults and we should treat them like such - if one of these pigs got in my face, I'd bust their chops. Shut down their damn phones with protest calls and let the President hear from the people paying his salary.


40 posted on 01/20/2005 8:05:08 PM PST by dandelion (http://thequestionfairy.blogspot.com/)
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