Those cannons that are privately owned don't see much action except when they get towed to a big machine gun shoot like the one at the Knob Creek shooting range. Then they spend the weekend blowing up the mountainside and get towed back home.
Posted on 01/18/2005 11:25:23 AM PST by newsgatherer
Handgun Control Inc. says it wants to keep handguns out of the hands of the wrong people. Guess what. If you are a law abiding citizen who owns a handgun you have the "wrong hands."
Banning guns works. That is why New York and Chicago have such high murder rates.
Washington D.C. which has strict gun controls has a murder rate of 69 per 100,000. Indianapolis, without them has an awesome murder rate of 9 per 100,000. Gun control works.
You can incapacitate an intruder with tear gas or oven spray. If you shoot him with a .357 he will get angry and kill you.
A woman raped and strangled is morally superior to a woman standing with a smoking gun and a dead rapist at her feet.
The "New England Journal of Medicine" has some excellent articles on gun control just as "The American Rifleman" carries equally great articles on open-heart surgery.
The Second Amendment, ratified in 1791, refers to the National Guard which was created in 1903, 112 years later.
The "right of the people peaceably to assemble" and "the right of the people to be secure in their homes" refers to individuals while "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" refers to the state.
One should consult an automobile technician for vehicle repairs, a computer programmer for problems with your hard drive and Sara Brady for firearms expertise.
Most citizens cannot be trusted so we need firearms laws because we can trust citizens to abide by them.
If you are not familiar with most of the above you have not been following the firearms debate. In fact you haven't tuned in to the liberals who still have their hands in your pockets and on your firearms even though the pounding defeats ...
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38 Reasons For Gun Control
1. Banning guns works, which is why New York, DC, & Chicago cops need guns.
2. Washington DC's low murder rate of 69 per 100,000 is due to strict gun control, and Indianapolis' high murder rate of 9 per 100,000 is due to the lack of gun control.
3. Statistics showing high murder rates justify gun control but statistics showing increasing murder rates after gun control are "just statistics."
4. The Brady Bill and the Assault Weapons Ban, both of which went into effect in 1994 are responsible for the decrease in violent crime rates, which have been declining since 1991.
5. We must get rid of guns because a deranged lunatic may go on a shooting spree at any time and anyone who would own a gun out of fear of such a lunatic is paranoid.
6. The more helpless you are the safer you are from criminals.
7. An intruder will be incapacitated by tear gas or oven spray, but if shot with a .357 Magnum will get angry and kill you.
8. A woman raped and strangled is morally superior to a woman with a smoking gun and a dead rapist at her feet.
9. When confronted by violent criminals, you should "put up no defense -- give them what they want, or run" (Handgun Control Inc. Chairman Pete Shields, Guns Don't Die - People Do, 1981, p.125).
10. The New England Journal of Medicine is filled with expert advice about guns; just like Guns & Ammo has some excellent treatises on heart surgery.
11. One should consult an automotive engineer for safer seatbelts, a civil engineer for a better bridge, a surgeon for internal medicine, a computer programmer for hard drive problems, and Sarah Brady for firearms expertise.
12. The 2nd Amendment, ratified in 1787, refers to the National Guard, which was created 130 years later, in 1917.
13. The National Guard, federally funded, with bases on federal land, using federally-owned weapons, vehicles, buildings and uniforms, punishing trespassers under federal law, is a "state" militia.
14. These phrases: "right of the people peaceably to assemble," "right of the people to be secure in their homes," "enumerations herein of certain rights shall not be construed to disparage others retained by the people," and "The powers not delegated herein are reserved to the states respectively, and to the people" all refer to individuals, but "the right of the people to keep and bear arm" refers to the state.
15. "The Constitution is strong and will never change." But we should ban and seize all guns thereby violating the 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendments to that Constitution.
16. Rifles and handguns aren't necessary to national defense! Of course, the army has hundreds of thousands of them.
17. Private citizens shouldn't have handguns, because they aren't "military weapons", but private citizens shouldn't have "assault rifles", because they are military weapons.
18. In spite of waiting periods, background checks, finger printing, government forms, etc., guns today are too readily available, which is responsible for recent school shootings. In the 1940's, 1950's and1960's, anyone could buy guns at hardware stores, army surplus stores, gas stations, variety stores, Sears mail order, no waiting, no background check, no fingerprints, no government forms and there were no school shootings.
19. The NRA's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign about kids handling guns is propaganda, but the anti-gun lobby's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign is responsible social activity.
20. Guns are so complex that special training is necessary to use them properly, and so simple to use that they make murder easy.
21. A handgun, with up to 4 controls, is far too complex for the typical adult to learn to use, as opposed to an automobile that only has 20.
22. Women are just as intelligent and capable as men but a woman with a gun is "an accident waiting to happen" and gun makers' advertisements aimed at women are "preying on their fears."
23. Ordinary people in the presence of guns turn into slaughtering butchers but revert to normal when the weapon is removed.
24. Guns cause violence, which is why there are so many mass killings at gun shows.
25. A majority of the population supports gun control, just like a majority of the population supported owning slaves.
26. Any self-loading small arm can legitimately be considered to be a "weapon of mass destruction" or an "assault weapon."
27. Most people can't be trusted, so we should have laws against guns, which most people will abide by because they can be trusted.
28. The right of Internet pornographers to exist cannot be questioned because it is constitutionally protected by the Bill of Rights, but the use of handguns for self defense is not really protected by the Bill of Rights.
29. Free speech entitles one to own newspapers, transmitters, computers, and typewriters, but self-defense only justifies bare hands.
30. The ACLU is good because it uncompromisingly defends certain parts of the Constitution, and the NRA is bad, because it defends other parts of the Constitution.
31. Charlton Heston, a movie actor as president of the NRA is a cheap lunatic who should be ignored, but Michael Douglas, a movie actor as a representative of Handgun Control, Inc. is an ambassador for peace who is entitled to an audience at the UN arms control summit.
32. Police operate with backup within groups, which is why they need larger capacity pistol magazines than do "civilians" who must face criminals alone and therefore need less ammunition.
33. We should ban "Saturday Night Specials" and other inexpensive guns because it's not fair that poor people have access to guns too.
34. Private citizens don't need a gun for self-protection because the police are there to protect them even though the Supreme Court says the police are not responsible for their protection.
35. Citizens don't need to carry a gun for personal protection but police chiefs, who are desk-bound administrators who work in a building filled with cops, need a gun.
36. "Assault weapons" have no purpose other than to kill large numbers of people. The police need assault weapons. You do not.
37. Trigger locks do not interfere with the ability to use a gun for defensive purposes, which is why you see police officers with one on their duty weapon.
38. Handgun Control, Inc. says they want to "keep guns out of the wrong hands." Guess what? You have the wrong hands.
irrelevant quotations?
Pointed excerpts from Washington and Jefferson, the citation of Amendments the Second, the Ninth, the Tenth, and the Fourteenth, as well as USCon:ArtI:Sec8:11 and the posting and transcription of an actual Letter of Marque... these, to you, are "irrelevant"?
My, my...
One must perforce wonder what, to you, passes the bar you set and becomes relevant.
While I do not believe that the Founders would have smiled at the notion of private citizens possessing thermonuclear warheads, chemical weapons, or weaponized pathogens, I do not see how any honest and rational person could even attempt to argue against the abovementioned PROOFS that they did indeed smile on the notion of private ownership of cannon and warships.
By extension, they would have approved of private ownership of armed aircraft and mechanized cavalry. Any counterargument based on these being "crew-served platforms" is ludicrous, in the light of the nature of armed warships - crewed by dozens or even hundreds of men, yet still privately owned and operated.
You have been amply proven to be in error.
Learn.
To do otherwise is folly.
Here's a clue: you can own a cannon. Right now. No paperwork, no permission needed. No kidding.
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Regulated had a different meaning in those days. A clock that keeps time accurately is well regulated. An armed group which was well equiped and well trained, think marksmanship, was also well regulated
I don't think we have to worry about that until WMDs start showing up at Walmart or the local 7-11.
You could own a cannon or a battleship when the Constitution was ratified. Those were the biggest weapons of the age.
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Jim Verdolini:
There is not a scintilla of evidence that any arm greater than a individual arm was ever considered as an arm to be kept or provided by an individual militia member.
There is considerable evidence to the contrary.
The leftists get it. You don't see the big picture yet.
Criminals don't care what the government does. They could care less if the government passes laws that retro-actively raise your taxes, take effective control of private property with out of control enviromental regulations, forbid any expression of the Christian religion in public, but cater to other religions.
Criminals live for today. All they care about is having enough money to buy drugs, drink and women. Criminals would never organize and mount a challenge to growing governmental abuses. But, a moral people would.
The leftists have plans for you, and you being able to defend yourself from their plans disturbs them.
You can still own a cannon.
Well, that's interesting! As for me, I'm just starting to look into getting a hand gun of some type, so that's why I've been reading these threads. Maybe after I buy a pistol, and after enough practice, I can move up to a small cannon. I am uncertain, though, how one conceals a cannon.
;o)
Bang
I think that's a winning argument. The armament of the cop is intended to be used against criminals and rioters -- which is exactly what an armed civilian can reasonably be expected to need the ability to deal with also
"The Second Amendment, ratified in 1791, refers to the National Guard which was created in 1903, 112 years later."
Great quote BUMP.
A flamethrower just the ticket for lighting a campfire on a cold damp drizzly day & it is also useful for securing the perimeter of the family picnic against ants 8^>
Not at all. If the required components were deregulated, a necessary step in your quest for freely available nukes, the economics of weapons production would make the price much more reasonable. I personally wouldn't want to bet my whole town on Bubba's finances and the economics of free-market enriched plutonium. :-)
Or until the next Bubba wins the PowerBall. :-)
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