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Scientists Speak About Evolution (Quoted Admissions Of Evolutions Condemning Evolutionary Theory
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Posted on 01/18/2005 9:49:17 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist

Top flight scientists have something to tell you about evolution. Such statements will never be found in the popular magazines, alonside georgeous paintings of ape-man and Big Bangs and solemn pronuncements about millions of years for this rock and that fish. Instead they are generally reesrved only for professional books and journals.

Most scientists are working in very narrow fields; they do not see the overall picture, and assume, even though their field does not prove evolution, that perhaps other areas of science probably vindicate it. They are well-meaning men. The biologists and geneticists know their facts, and research does not prove evolution, but assume that geology does. The geologists know their field does not prove veolution, but hope that the biologists and geneticists have proven it. Those who do know the facts, fear to disclose them to the general public, lest they be fired. But they do write articles in their own professional journals and books, condemning evolutionary theory.

Included below are a number of admissions by leading evolutionists of earlier decades, such as *Charles Darwin*, *Austin Clark, or *Fred Hoyle. The truth is that evolutionits cannot make scientific facts fit the theory.

An asterisk (*) by a name indicates that person is not known to be a creationist. Of over 4,000 quotations in the set of books this encyclopedia is based on (see BOOKSTORE), only 164 statements are by creationists.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creationism; crevolist; evolution; evolutionisbunk
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Scientists can no more "prove" evolution than they can "prove" relativity, gravity or the germ theory of disease.

All of these theories will only be around until a better one is produced.

They can only be disproved by scientific evidence.

So far there is no scientific evidence to disprove evolution.

ID simply represents a failure of imagination; "I can't figure out where eyes evolved from and it's too hard to learn enough biology to look it up, so it must be ID"

True Creationism is an article of Faith and does not resort to false arguments.


101 posted on 01/18/2005 11:18:13 AM PST by e p1uribus unum
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To: ThinkPlease
I could just as well, and to a high degree of certainty, state that the evolutionists supposed "science", which supposedly "proves" evolutionary theory, is nothing more than pseudoscience used to score points with their opponents. Your site really proves nothing, and is just a counter-punch at best. I have seen that site before, and could just as easily say that it is "laughable."

Your Ad-Hominem laced diatribe is noted, as well as your use of the oft pulled out "straw man argument."
102 posted on 01/18/2005 11:18:42 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Bigh4u2

Ah, quote mining. The last refuge of those without real arguments.


103 posted on 01/18/2005 11:18:49 AM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: narby

>>The silence by you pro-evolutionary theory guys on here is defeaning.

They recognize the futility of arguing with a closed mind.<<

You've actually pretty much nailed my position, and why I don't spend much time on these threads any more. Also, it is the "superior smugness" of the evolutionists. It is almost comical. Some of them laugh at quotes over 25 years old yet the evolutionists contemporary with those quotes were just as smug back then. Maybe moreso.

And besides, so what if one of these evolutionists WAS the smartest ant in the anthill? It still does not make their theories and hypotheses remotely correct.

"They're trying to find themselves an audience. Their deductions need applause." - Genesis, The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway


104 posted on 01/18/2005 11:19:33 AM PST by RobRoy (Science is about "how." Christianity is about "why.")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Ah, your apparent attempt at trying to give Junior a way out of having to provide some definitive and conclusive proof is noted.

As I said, you wouldn't accept any evidence provided. Glad you agree with me about your closed mind.

105 posted on 01/18/2005 11:19:33 AM PST by narby (If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet.)
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To: Bigh4u2

No, you can't. Proof is a mathematical concept. In science, you can state with a high degree of certainty, but you can never prove.


106 posted on 01/18/2005 11:19:51 AM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Hmmmm...Sounds like the typical circular, non-definitive, non-conclusionary arguments which evolutionists use.

Unlike, say, an evidence free and out of context quote saying something like "evolution is not supported by the fossil record"?

107 posted on 01/18/2005 11:19:58 AM PST by atlaw
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To: atlaw
No, that's completely different. Some kind of mens rea thing, I guess.
108 posted on 01/18/2005 11:21:33 AM PST by general_re (How come so many of the VKs have been here six months or less?)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Please cite the name of a non-religious scientist who does not believe that evolution has occurred. I'll wait.


109 posted on 01/18/2005 11:24:43 AM PST by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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To: RobRoy

Sorry for the "smugness." It is just that I simply cannot follow what you meant by, "DNA," as proof of the validity of creationism. Please explain what you mean.


110 posted on 01/18/2005 11:26:11 AM PST by Rudder
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To: All
Prove evolution this is a ploy so old and worn out it makes one wonder who would use it as an argument. 

Prove creationism this is equally ridiculous

Who is to say that god isn't involved in either theory and for doubters prove he isn't.

 

111 posted on 01/18/2005 11:26:50 AM PST by sandviper
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To: ml1954

There is a flip-side to that coin. That no evidence which runs counter to evolution will be considered sufficiently valid, and that ANY evidentiary deficiency within the realm of evolutionary "science" will not be considered as valid reason to scuttle the teaching of evolution.

Ah, yes, when evolutionists state within academic journals quotes which run counter to evolution then it is an ad hominem attack.


112 posted on 01/18/2005 11:26:58 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Rudder

>>DNA? It's existence supports creationism? Hogwash!<<

I respectfully disagree.


113 posted on 01/18/2005 11:27:31 AM PST by RobRoy (Science is about "how." Christianity is about "why.")
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To: RobRoy

DNA sequence comparisons massively support common descent through the phylogenetic tree. What was that about DNA supporting creationism?


114 posted on 01/18/2005 11:28:30 AM PST by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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To: RobRoy

I respectfully ask you to explain how DNA supports creationism.


115 posted on 01/18/2005 11:30:04 AM PST by Rudder
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To: Junior

With that I agree. The problem is that the latest and greatest is awesome, until you get to evolution. Then It seems to be more and more brick wall. Don't get me wrong. There are lots of new discoveries being made and data analyzed. I am just tired of "experts" that insist on interpreting the data to try to squeeze it into their own pet hypotheses, and then ramming it down my throat as fact.

I would like them to simply admit what they don't know, and treat "evolution" as the speculation it is. For, as is the case with ID, evolution will most certainly not be proven in our lifetime.


116 posted on 01/18/2005 11:31:22 AM PST by RobRoy (Science is about "how." Christianity is about "why.")
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To: munchtipq

Actually, in a broad sense, "what, where and when" are contained in "how." That is why I say "how."


117 posted on 01/18/2005 11:34:59 AM PST by RobRoy (Science is about "how." Christianity is about "why.")
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To: RobRoy

Evolution is one of the most strongly-supported theories in science and forms the foundation of the modern biological sciences.


118 posted on 01/18/2005 11:35:57 AM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: Junior
Yes you did.

No I didn't.

Yes you did.

No I didn't.

Yes I did.

No you didn't.

119 posted on 01/18/2005 11:36:17 AM PST by narby (If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet.)
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To: narby

Just fighting against the forces of ignorance and scientific illiteracy.


120 posted on 01/18/2005 11:38:27 AM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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