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History Channel: The French Revolution
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Posted on 01/18/2005 9:44:13 AM PST by Borges

Did anyone catch this the other night? The common attempt to link the American revolution and the French was certainly not present here. The differences couldn't be more blunt. Robespierre, Marat and the rest of their gang were nothing less then brutal totalitarian mass murderers.


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To: Borges

The program is actually quite well done.
The decription of the "de-christianization" of France, removing the names of all saints from Streets and towns, the changing of the calendar to a 10 day week to eliminate Sundayt, the renaming of the months..... fascinating that this happened in 1792.
The American Revolution was mainly a Conservative Revolution. We have always been, from the Declaration of Independence onward, a Nation under God with rights derived from the Creator, not from man.
Every event in the 200 years following the French Revolution, from the Russian Revolution, Communism, Nazism and both world wars stem from that event.
Liberty,Equality,Fraternity , a sick blood soaked joke on the French and the entire world.


161 posted on 01/18/2005 2:16:04 PM PST by PJBlogger (BEWARE HILLARY AND HER HINO)
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To: Yardstick
"...isn't it interesting how it led directly to the emperorship of Napoleon? -- a foreshadowing of the Russian "people's" revolution which led to the dictatorship of Lenin and Stalin and the rest of the soviet Czars. This is a pattern that has repeated itself again and again. It reveals a lot about the true nature of socialism, which is elitist and authoritarian."

Well said...and Lib'rals will still tell you that Socialism--despite being a failure whenever and wherever employed as a political system--will work if the Ruling Class just won't greedily betray their utopian vision.

FReegards...MUD

162 posted on 01/18/2005 2:16:29 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!)
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To: Truthsayer20

The people on the right side did not support the ancient regime, they wanted a constitutional republic with a monarch. The people sitting on the left wanted to kill all aristocrats.


163 posted on 01/18/2005 2:16:46 PM PST by BillSharp
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To: razorback-bert

No, I'm certain he was not there. I suppose a quick web search on him would confirm it, but I am absolutely certain he was not there. The people there were ordinary criminals.


164 posted on 01/18/2005 2:19:09 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Liberalism is proof that intelligent people can ignore as much as the ignorant.)
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To: SMARTY
I agree on giving up on the History Channel, but only because I think that it's owned by new age types. Whenever they talk religion, I switch stations.

The History Channel is good for learning a bit on warfare, Modern Marvels, Secrets of WW2, Civil War, an occasional Movies in Time, and of course "Mail Call".
165 posted on 01/18/2005 2:35:53 PM PST by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" begins with the unborn child.)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

there's truth in your statement!

professor albert boime of ucla wrote a book "art and the french commune" which compared the los angeles riots to the commune.

unsuckcessfully in my opinion.

it's worth a puke to look at the book.


166 posted on 01/18/2005 2:40:23 PM PST by ken21 (4 as much time as u spend on the internet, you cd have several college degrees-daisy noonan)
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To: Atlantic Friend
I miss the back bone of French Saints that your nation was so good at turning out. If there is any suffering for national pride, it's due to the devil taking revenge for all those souls saved because of the Faith of courageous French missionaries. If French missionaries never made it to Vietnam, there would have been no Vietnam. But it's Christ that has made France great in History. It will be Christ that makes her great again, but only if she so chooses to remember that she is first for Christ and not for herself.

Saint Bernadette, Saint Bernard of Clairvaux, Saint Clotilda, Saint Denis, Saint Francis of Sales, Saint Genevieve, Saint Hilary of Poitiers, Saint Joan of Arc, Saint Jogues, Saint Isaac John Baptist de la Salle, Saint Louis IX, Margaret Mary Alacoque, Saint Martin, Saint Saint Sextus Alcimus Ecdicius Avitus, Saint Theresa of Lisieux, Saint Vincent de Paul....

Pray for us.
167 posted on 01/18/2005 2:47:16 PM PST by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" begins with the unborn child.)
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To: BillSharp

In the case of the french revolution the "left" would be the "intellectuals". (The buggers view is still alive and well in france.) The french believe that to be a Christian is equivalent to being totalitarian and despot (the poor folks don't know any better because they ran their Protestants off..tee hee). Hence Christianity (in all forms) is almost dead there.


168 posted on 01/18/2005 2:48:50 PM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: Earthdweller

my compliments on your well written overview in #150


169 posted on 01/18/2005 2:52:00 PM PST by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free....)
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To: Borges

This was my all-time favorite class in College. "French Revolution and Napoleon." I had a terrific history professor. I think it should be a required course. I have the program on DVR will probably watch it tonight.


170 posted on 01/18/2005 3:06:40 PM PST by RichardW
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To: KC Burke
The credit goes to Miles H. Hodges.

He has an extensive amount of information on the web that he says ".... represents the results of a lifetime of inquiry into the mystery of human existence." I find his work fascinating to say the least. P> http://www.newgenevacenter.org/west/enlightenment2.htm

171 posted on 01/18/2005 3:12:14 PM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: Earthdweller

http://www.newgenevacenter.org/west/enlightenment2.htm


172 posted on 01/18/2005 3:14:28 PM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: Borges

It was a pretty good show, I thought. It certainly made plain the differences between ours and theirs. We were fighting to be free, they were simply free to be fighting.


173 posted on 01/18/2005 3:25:24 PM PST by muir_redwoods
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To: Borges
I especially loved the tagline on the promos they've been running....

"Now, for two hours, it won't kill you to love the French."

174 posted on 01/18/2005 3:27:00 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (All I ask from livin' is to have no chains on me. All I ask from dyin' is to go naturally.)
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To: Borges
I especially loved the tagline on the promos they've been running....

"Now, for two hours, it won't kill you to love the French."

175 posted on 01/18/2005 3:27:02 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (All I ask from livin' is to have no chains on me. All I ask from dyin' is to go naturally.)
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC

Ping


176 posted on 01/18/2005 3:36:57 PM PST by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts; All
"Now, for two hours, it won't kill you to love the French."

I cannot tell a lie. THAT and the fact that they bought promotional time on FNC, where I would see it, is what caused me to watch.

ALL:

I love threads like this on FR, as I get great recommendations for books to read. I am looking for recommendations on a good biography of Napolean. I am particularly interested in the influence of the Napolean civil code on Northern Germany.

177 posted on 01/18/2005 3:44:21 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: TXBSAFH
The French Revolution and the Age of Napoleon are the most interesting periods of history to me. I did not see the program, because Monday is the one night my wife has to watch the See-BS lineup of shit-coms.

I will catch a repeat. The French Revolution is more complex than some might think.

178 posted on 01/18/2005 6:34:52 PM PST by Sans-Culotte
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To: BJungNan

I don't discount the Christian aspect, but would point out that the rationalism of the French Revolution certainly made it more susceptible to violence as it allowed them to make or change their own rules as they went along, whereas the concept of the rule of law of the American Revolution meant just the opposite.

In a way, we are on the same page here, since both the rule of law and the Christian system of ethics require specific unchanging standards of behavior.


179 posted on 01/18/2005 7:52:58 PM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: KC Burke

FWIW, I consider Bush to be something of a rationalist...Yesterday, I believe he said in a speech that he has a responsibility to do "big things for America."

I admire the guy in spite of it, though.


180 posted on 01/19/2005 2:26:19 PM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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