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Slaying of 4 may be tied to (Islamic) religious extremism (NJ Christian family had throats slit)
Bergen Record ^ | Sunday, January 16, 2005 | TOM TRONCONE

Posted on 01/16/2005 5:22:26 AM PST by dead

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To: Salem

I like this American flag too.


421 posted on 01/16/2005 3:17:56 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: dervish; Brad's Gramma; nutmeg; mystery-ak

What a crock! CAIR stereotypes the characters as Muslims, then wants FOX to apologize with PSAs?!?!?! This is BS.


422 posted on 01/16/2005 3:22:17 PM PST by rintense
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To: dervish
Why not, and what alternative theory do you have in mind?

These blind and incapacitated sheiks seem to cause a lot of trouble. The Israelis took out Hamas' Sheik Yassin. I also remember some crippled sheik associated with UBL.

Why not what?

I don't believe that someone who is supposedly part of an operation with a sizable budget would try to reclaim a $100 deposit, and not even have the vehicle he rented to return. I know Arabs are legendarily stupid, but not that stupid. (I also don't believe that McVeigh's license plate just happened to fall off, and then the police held him for more than a day before someone decided he had something to do with the OK City bombing.)

Yassin was supported by the Hamas infrastructure, which sort of makes my point about Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman. He wasn't an independent operator.

I don't really need to have alternatives to know what is not true.

ML/NJ

423 posted on 01/16/2005 3:29:52 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: dead; All

http://www.news12.com/NJ#

First story - click on the camera. Here's a video from News 12 New Jersey at 6:00 pm. One ME guy actually compared the murder to Zarqawi's methods in Iraq.


424 posted on 01/16/2005 3:37:27 PM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: pbrown
I doubt seriously if the real culprits will ever be found.

This was a hit - a well planned, well executed hit.
That no member of the family was able to escape proves that.

This was meant to be a warning to others, exactly like the beheadings were a warning to the US when we went into Iraq.
Fear and intimidation are these vermin's favorite weapons.

425 posted on 01/16/2005 3:46:46 PM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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To: texasbluebell
We are not a bloody people. Sure you're not. Check out post #284 and tell me again.
426 posted on 01/16/2005 3:47:24 PM PST by JudyinCanada (Five-fingered Canadian)
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To: TexasCowboy
Thanks for posting these disturbing photos. These people make me sick! The TRUTH about Islam needs to get out!

I am currently reading "Prophet of Doom" by Craig Winn and I recommend it to all. It is enlightening for sure.

Pray for the slain Armanious family (Vechnaya Pamyat!!) as they are TRUE martyrs...and pray for the USA!!

427 posted on 01/16/2005 3:48:42 PM PST by blinachka (Vechnaya Pamyat Daddy... xoxo)
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To: ml/nj

"Yassin was supported by the Hamas infrastructure, which sort of makes my point about Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman. He wasn't an independent operator."

Yassin (and Rahman) were the "spiritual" leaders and as such determined the operation. The infrastucture was answerable to them.

(The thought of spirituality in the same sentence as murderers like Yassin and Rahman is enough to make me choke.)

I can well see your point about the deposit and McVeigh's license plate. I can believe they were set up or were shaheeds to take the fall to cover for others. But I do believe the sheik's were behind it.


428 posted on 01/16/2005 3:49:42 PM PST by dervish (Europe can go to Islam)
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To: TexasCowboy
Sad to say, but you are probably right.

Hope springs eternal though, maybe God will smile down on us and our cops will figure it out.

429 posted on 01/16/2005 3:52:24 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: dead

MAY be tied to islamic extremists???!!!

Of course, we can't jump to conclusions, why that would not be PC/sarcasm off


430 posted on 01/16/2005 3:53:22 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: pbrown; jb6

Thanks....Bias? I don't notice any pervert-coddling media bias
/sarcasm OFF:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Jesse+Dirkhising&btnG=Google+Search


431 posted on 01/16/2005 3:55:17 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (REMEMBER THE ALGOREAMO--relentlessly DEMAND the TRUTH, like the Dems demand recounts!)
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To: pbrown

You're neither weak nor naive.

We have all become shackled in our thinking.

Political correctness has become more powerful than common sense.


432 posted on 01/16/2005 3:57:58 PM PST by JudyinCanada (Five-fingered Canadian)
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To: JudyinCanada
HI,

Yes, we are a waring nation. I like that though. We have had to fight our way throughout our history. I see that as a plus. I'd rather our enemies fear us than respect us.

One of our Military leaders said, "we break shit", we're good at it.In these troubling days I'm very glad we break shi*. :-)

433 posted on 01/16/2005 3:59:20 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: JudyinCanada
That's just my problem, I've never been political correct. And do I get the looks when I go out in public.

We are working on getting ride of PC, it's a nation killer in disguise.

434 posted on 01/16/2005 4:02:23 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: clintonh8r

I suspect the perps have already safely landed in Saudi Arabia and are celebrating. I don't imagine they would stick around, but head to the safety of the mother land. I do, however, hope I am completely wrong.

Either that, or they have headed up to Canada where they can join a gazillion of their relatives.


435 posted on 01/16/2005 4:02:43 PM PST by JudyinCanada (Five-fingered Canadian)
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To: Blurblogger
I'm glad I pionted you in that direction. I never heard about that story till I found FR.

Media didn't talk about it. It might put the gays in a bad light(

436 posted on 01/16/2005 4:04:34 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: clintonh8r

Or maybe they were "imported" and have already left the country, either by air or driving up to Canada.


437 posted on 01/16/2005 4:04:59 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: blinachka
I lived in their land for over a year.
They are a vulgar, filthy people who are perfectly suited to the insanity of Islam.
They are born into hatred for everyone who is not as miserable as they are.

Yes, this family are martyrs in the same sense as the Christians in the lion's dens of Rome.
In the next few years, I fear we will have a growing list of martyrs.

438 posted on 01/16/2005 4:05:06 PM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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To: JudyinCanada
Either that, or they have headed up to Canada where they can join a gazillion of their relatives.

I hear ya. Both our countries have a growing problem with them.

439 posted on 01/16/2005 4:06:56 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

At least you guys are better armed than us. All we can do is throw back bacon at them.


440 posted on 01/16/2005 4:09:19 PM PST by JudyinCanada (Five-fingered Canadian)
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