[cyncooper]

Heard it on MSNBC and Fox.

Good.

[dfwgator]

If an Muslim did that to American prisoners, he would have received a hero's welcome.

[OldFriend]

Good. His arrogance was despicable.

[Barte45]

Following orders does not mean you do not have to be responsible for your actions. We learned that at the Nuremburg Trials, albeit that this abuse isn't as bad as what the Nuremburg Trials were for.

[DainBramage]

Taking pictures did him in.

[drt1]

Amazing how efficient these Military Courts are. Perhaps because they aren't paid by the hour? IMO he deserves the book.

[scory]

The damage this shmuck and his buddies did to the war effort merits stiff punishment.

[colorado tanker]

Good bye to bad rubbish.

[BlueLancer]

BTT

[BlueLancer]

Basically, he was found guilty of all Charges and Specifications .. five Charges and 10 Specifications. One Charge and Specification .. the one pertaining to dereliction of duty for willfully failing to protect detainees from abuse, cruelty, and maltreatment .. had 25 specific acts of dereliction and he was found guilty of 17 of those specific acts. For another Specification for which he was charged with aggravated assault with a means or force likely to produce death or grievous bodily harm, he was found not guilty of that, but guilty of assault consummated by a battery.

We're in for a long night here for the sentencing proceedings.

See also Graner defense rests in Abu Ghraib trial

[Airborne1986]

What should he get for a sentence?

My vote:

Reduction to E-1, Total Forfeitures, Dishonorable Discharge, 2 years confinement.

I was thinking 5 years ... but I gave him a discount for serving in a combat zone.

[SuziQ]

Good! Wasn't he a prison guard back home before going to Iraq? I guess that's the kind of thing he'd do to American prisoners if it weren't for laws against that sort of thing.

[beckett]

Graner is a grinning ignoramus, the picture of a sadistic prison guard. May he rot in jail.

[montag813]

I still don't get what was so bad. Naked pyramids? Scare tactics with dogs? Female humiliation of male prisoners? Big freakin deal.

[jackbill]

For what he has done to the image of the United States, he should go down for the max, which I believe is about 17 years. Ten minimum. This SOB doesn't belong on the streets of America.

[MeekOneGOP]

bump!

[tsali]

Just like C BIAS---- the upper level of authority get off scott free

[Ex-Dem]

Good. Judging from accounts by his fellow soldiers, he was no angel. I don't buy the higher-ups/military intel people ordering him to do this.

Even if you rationalize this by saying that the prisoners were probably teorrists anyways, you still have to consider what impact those photos had on the level anti-Americanism, and how many of our soldiers have died because what he did inspired more people to join the insurgency.

[sigarms]

None of this qualifies as torture.

Abuse, yes. But not torture.

Don't let anyone get away with trying to give this the "torture" label.

[shetlan]

..."Graner, a 36-year-old reservist from Uniontown, Pa., was convicted of conspiracy, assault, maltreating prisoners, dereliction of duty and committing indecent acts"...

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