Posted on 01/14/2005 5:57:02 AM PST by hdrabon
The ACLU's "constitutional" lawsuit with this Tuesday's Presidential Inauguration is a three-way taxpayer hit:
1. By act of Congress, the ACLU is allowed to bill (likely at the highest rate possible) the government/taxpayers for the costs of bringing the suit, and automatically is paid, regardless of the suits' outcome.
2. By operation, the cost of defending against the suit is charged to the taxpayers, again, likely at the highest rate.
3. By function, the cost of hearing and adjudicating the suit is at taxpayer expense.
Of course, it was members of the legal industry, Congress's largest and only functional built-in lobby, who made the law!
Our imperial legal industry -- Minor risk and guaranteed high return. The setup against liberty is becomming more and more clear.
Hubert D. Rabon
"someone of consequence and appropriate legal ability files a Rule 11 against the ACLU"
Would you please elaborate? This is of great interest....
I think I remember Jimmy Swaggart using THAT one! HDR
EXACTLY. Here's a GREAT place to e-mail them and tell them to STOP THIS INSANITY!
www.visi.com/juan/congress/
An ethical lawyer?
Actually, I THINK the defense "counsel" has to file the Rule 11. Regardless, it probably ain't goin' to happen.
I'm certainly not an attorney, but I have spent the last three years of my life studying the legal industry.
HDR
I meant my reply to you to begin, "An ethical lawyer, PERHAPS?" This, of course, would be followed by much gasping and laughter.
hubert
"We hold these truths to be self-evidentThe most basic and fundamental statement of American law is that men are CREATED. The clause that follows it identifies Him Who CREATED us as the CREATOR.that all men are CREATED equal,
that they are endowed by their CREATOR with certain inalienable rights..."
The recognition and legal acknowledgement of the CREATOR precedes and supercedes all else--even equality and human rights.
"Dear Barbara Boxer ...." (MY Congressman).
Time for rule 11 sanctions!
Under the aegis of its Foundation, the ACLU could get away with financial murder. Within that structure all kinds of financial misdeeds can be hidden.
For example, it would be interesting to know what kind of financial activities officers of publicly-traded corporations engaged in and whether their donations to the ACLU were properly accounted for on company financial statements, whether shareholders were duly notified of corporate ACLU donations, whether the donations were made from corporate funds in the names of private individuals, and whether the ACLU itself properly accounted for these donations when filing official statements.
If the ACLU rigged its federal and state funding statements in collusion with officers of publicly-held companies who filed false financial instruments, that would be considered aiding and abetting the commission of federal and state crimes.
Employing fraudulent accounting practices in order to cover-up corporate wrongdoing would have jeopardized the financial interests of stockholders, corporate associates and partners, which would compel the SEC to step in.
If you're a shareholder confronted with this problem, you can contact the SEC here: enforcement@sec.gov
Furthermore, as part of the Tax Exempt Compensation Enforcement Project, the IRS intends to examine non-profit organizations (NPO), to learn more about the practices nonprofits follow as they fill out Form 990, the main public disclosure documents for charities and foundations, and whether accounting fraud and tax evasion is taking place, and whether the compensation of specific individuals is excessive and, and whether instances of questionable compensation practices may evade IRS, banking and SEC laws.
The IRS will examine NPO insider transactions, such as (1) loans, the (2) sale, (3) exchange or (4) leasing of property to non-profit officers and others. In particular, the IRS will look to see how organizations report (5) "excess benefit transactions" on Form 990, and (6) executive pay.
The IRS could determine whether the ACLU----through its Foundation----is properly accounting for all of its activities including tax-funded activities, whether it is inflating legal costs, and whether the ACLU is using tax dollars for the purposes stated. Form 990, the main public disclosure documents for NPO's, including charities and foundations, could determine whether accounting fraud and tax evasion is taking place, and whether the compensation of specific ACLU individuals is excessive and, and whether instances of questionable ACLU compensation practices may evade the IRS, and US banking laws.
We need to know whether the ACLU might be engaged in Enron-style accounting and spending practices using tax dollars for personal expenses, for example, and whether the ACLU is cooking the books.
Yes, keeping the LEGAL issue God and government at the forefront of all our minds and hearts, while slipping its hands on our crotches is certainly a legal industry specialty. Please pardon my frankness -- HDR
Thus, the Antitrust problem facing America by the industry entrusted with the care and proper operation of another branch of government, the judicial.
With this monopoly, separation of powers means whatever the legal industry wishes it to mean. It is what is, is. . . . HDR
These looser gets paid suits are a product of unfunded mandates. In essence the congress is creating an enforcement arm without creating an new department.
If anyone can figure out a way to attack these unfunded government mandates, be advised the 11th DCA is a good circuit to take your fight. (its not the 9th circuit)
Liz, and all thanks.
Ye who I pinged, can you add more to this thread? Let's make this thing snowball and break the ACLU's back. I think $147 MILLION in their foundation is enough.
The mentally, morally, and spiritually healthy Americans--those of the Heartland--must seize the initiative and clobber the Left with the facts--including the fact that the recognition of the Creator is the foundation of U.S. law.
The problem is that the legal industry, unlike all other industrys, is exempt from public viewing of its self-policing. If a medical doctor, for example, is brought before the medical board for some supposed misdeed, it gets on the news and we get to watch the process and progress. Not so with complaints brought to the the American, or State, Bar Gang(s).
It doesn't matter the entity, agency, government function, or private practice with which the legal professional is associated. The American public has no access to understanding the investigative functions, etc. If your district court is being investigated by any controlling authority, you may never know about it, or how it was mitigated. HDR
Barely even a starting point, but a starting point nevertheless. HDR
Forget this issues of left, and right, etc. These are what the legal industry hopes we will focus upon as the real problems before us. In light of the wrongs being done to us by the Legal Industry in the name of American Democracy, those of us who have been led to believe that we are on one side or the other, have much more to fear than our philosophical, social, and political differences.
In the long run, the Legal Industry does not care about whether you are on the left or right, as long as you are blindly under its thumb. HDR
I have always had the impression that Mr. Newdow is trying to get revenge on the mother of his daughter via some perverse means. "You take my daughter, I take away god."
I wonder if he gets benefited by this looser gets paid rule.
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