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Bloomington smoking ban not worthy of imitation
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Posted on 01/14/2005 2:55:01 AM PST by freepatriot32

The New York Times was impressed by Bloomington’s overreaching ban on smoking in public places.

Libertarians are not so dazzled.

The last thing Indiana cities should do is to copy Bloomington’s lead.

Karla Sneegas, the executive director of Indiana Tobacco Prevention and Cessation, told a New York Times reporter that “one way to start changing cultural norms on smoking is to institute new policies.”

Only one problem. It’s not the government’s job to set cultural norms.

Imagine if it were not something as maligned as smoking. Maybe these cities ought to ban coffee. It stains teeth a nasty shade, the smell will not stay confined to the cup, it causes bad breath, and caffeine is a health menace. Besides, Starbucks is surely the cause of urban sprawl.

Or maybe cities ought to ban reading in public. Why, it’s not very sociable to read a magazine or book in front of other people. Some people may be offended by the choice of literature. We can’t have smart people either; those who aren’t as informed will feel left behind. And all that sedentary behavior will lead to certain death. Death!

And why don’t we ban suspenders paired with belts, acid-washed jeans and white shoes after Labor Day. Any of these can cause projectile vomiting among the fashion-sensitive, and this can lead to bulimia. Surely these skinny women will lead rich, aimless lives as models or actresses.

Libertarians have no problem with businesses that decide that they will not allow smoking. It’s just not government’s job to make that decision.

Smokers and nonsmokers can decide for themselves whether businesses’ specific smoking policies matter enough to patronize one business and avoid another.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: ban; bigbrother; bloomington; evil; govwatch; imitation; indiana; libertarians; nannystate; not; of; overbearing; pufflist; smokersrights; smoking; smokingnazis; worthy
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The New York Times was impressed by Bloomington’s overreaching ban on smoking in public places.

Well there is a huge shock.Who would have ever geussed that the new york slimes would be impressed by an overeaching goverment policy?

1 posted on 01/14/2005 2:55:01 AM PST by freepatriot32
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To: Baby Bear; BJClinton; BlackbirdSST; BroncosFan; Capitalism2003; duznshwrnkd; jmc813; ...
Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here.
2 posted on 01/14/2005 2:58:00 AM PST by freepatriot32 (http://chonlalonde.blogspot.com)
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To: SheLion

one for your pufflist ping?


3 posted on 01/14/2005 2:59:02 AM PST by freepatriot32 (http://chonlalonde.blogspot.com)
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To: freepatriot32
“one way to start changing cultural norms on smoking is to institute new policies.”

"Cultural norms" by fiat.

What a dangerous and evil group of people.

4 posted on 01/14/2005 3:34:24 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: farmfriend

maybe one for your ping list too ?


5 posted on 01/14/2005 3:47:12 AM PST by freepatriot32 (http://chonlalonde.blogspot.com)
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To: freepatriot32

Every state has it's "stuck in the '60's" commune/community, even one as proudly red as Indiana. Bloomington has been hatching hair brained, socialist schemes for four decades, and there's no reason to think this one will travel any further than the rest of them. Bloomington women remain unshaven mountain women who still wear thermal long johns exposed under their granny skirts. RJ Reynolds could only dream of burning enough tobacco to equal the pot that's gone up in smoke in that town!


6 posted on 01/14/2005 4:17:01 AM PST by Hoosier43fan (B4Ryan)
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To: freepatriot32; Just another Joe; Great Dane; Madame Dufarge; Gabz; MeeknMing; steve50; ...

Thanks for the ping!!


7 posted on 01/14/2005 5:30:46 AM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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To: freepatriot32

Good grief.


8 posted on 01/14/2005 5:39:21 AM PST by Gabz (Anti-smoker gnatzies...small minds buzzing in your business..............SWAT'EM)
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To: SheLion

we need to ban everything.......


9 posted on 01/14/2005 5:40:52 AM PST by The Mayor (When trouble overtakes you, let God take over)
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To: freepatriot32
Smokers and nonsmokers can decide for themselves whether businesses’ specific smoking policies matter enough to patronize one business and avoid another.

This is exactly how it should be. Left up to the business owner and his patrons. NOT the nanny state government, the health department coalitions and the Partnerships for a Tobacco Free Everything.

10 posted on 01/14/2005 5:42:45 AM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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To: freepatriot32

A local restaurant here decided to go the no-smoking route two years ago.

His smoke-free restaurant attracted the nagging nanny types, while he lost tons of regular customers. After two months and losing many dollars, he ripped down the no smoking signs, and pasted a big poster in his front window - "Smokers Welcome."

A month later he went out of business. His customer base had found other restaurants that accomodated both smokers and non-smokers.

The moral of the story? Free enterprise always works, but sometimes it may not be to your liking.


11 posted on 01/14/2005 5:53:57 AM PST by sergeantdave (Help save the environment. Mail your old tires and garbage to the local Sierra Club.)
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To: freepatriot32
Some people may be offended by the choice of literature. We can’t have smart people either; those who aren’t as informed will feel left behind. And all that sedentary behavior will lead to certain death. Death!

I read a lot...does that mean I'm gonna die? What do you mean, I'm gonna die anyway??? Waaaaaaa! /sarcasm off

12 posted on 01/14/2005 5:56:14 AM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
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To: The Mayor
we need to ban everything.......

Let's start with the anti-smokers..........

13 posted on 01/14/2005 5:59:09 AM PST by Gabz (Anti-smoker gnatzies...small minds buzzing in your business..............SWAT'EM)
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To: freepatriot32

I remember the days when smoking was elegant and sophisticated and buggery was decidedly uncool. Now, its the other way around.


14 posted on 01/14/2005 6:45:38 AM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (Their women give good lamentation, maybe we can conquer them again sometime.)
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To: freepatriot32

Please add me to your ping list..thanks!


15 posted on 01/14/2005 9:23:02 AM PST by Annie03
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To: SheLion
If you have a puff ping list please add me to that.

I have been buying Cherokee cigs out of OK for quite a while. I ordered this morn and there was a significant price increase. I need to shop around for a better deal and I have noticed on other threads that some here share their sources.

16 posted on 01/14/2005 9:44:21 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

You'll love the puff list----lots of like minded individuals,smokers and non-smokers alike,but also a few who sound more like nanny-state DUers than Freepers.


17 posted on 01/14/2005 11:26:19 AM PST by Mears
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Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
18 posted on 01/14/2005 5:11:11 PM PST by farmfriend ( Congratulation. You are everything we've come to expect from years of government training.)
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To: freepatriot32

I think we ought to start with a ban on people talking on their cell phones while driving. That's the greatest public health hazard I face every day.


19 posted on 01/14/2005 5:14:16 PM PST by Cornpone ((Aging Warrior))
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To: Mears; Grampa Dave; eldoradude; farmfriend; calcowgirl; Dog Gone
"...but also a few who sound more like nanny-state DUers than Freepers."

I hate to but in uninvited, but you are so danged right about this! It's getting disturbing, un-nerving and down-right upsetting as a growing issue, spreading to more and more issues as time passes!!!

I've just completed 22 days off the cancer sticks after puffing on 'em like a fiend for over 40 years, but by gum I will never... ever try to make anyone else let-up on lighten up as much as they dang well please in this formerly FRee country!!!

Smoke 'em if'n ya gots 'em!!!

20 posted on 01/14/2005 6:05:29 PM PST by SierraWasp (Moderates, are just too chicken to commit to any ideal!!! They prefer sophisticated sophistry...)
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