CBS Independent Panel Review Credits Free Republic

foxnews ^ | 1/10/04 | CBS Investigatory Panel

[FreeTheHostages]

Check out the actual investigatory panel report -- it credits Free Republic (accurately) for first questioning the authenticity of thye documents. The actual investigatory report can be seen

[PreviouslyA-Lurker]

I haven't been following you otherwise I would have seen you around. Plus haven't been on the internet much lately altogether. Nice to see you again.

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

Thanks!

Same here.

-good times, G.J.P.(Jr.)

[Jimmy Valentine's brother]

Um, Freezie CBS has violated a public trust. It requires Federal licenses to operate. It has failed to perform its constitutional duty.

Just spit balling here but isn't CBS in some sort of lea gal danger?

"In Red Lion, Justice White explained that differences in the characteristics of various media justify differences in First Amendment standards applied to them. Thus, while there is a protected right of everyone to speak, write, or publish as he will, subject to very few limitations, there is no comparable right of everyone to broadcast. The frequencies are limited and some few must be given the privilege over others. The particular licensee, however, has no First Amendment right to hold that license and his exclusive privilege may be qualified. Qualification by censorship of content is impermissible, but the First Amendment does not prevent a governmental insistence that a licensee ''conduct himself as a proxy or fiduciary with obligations to present those views and voices which are representative of his community and which would otherwise, by necessity, be barred from the airwaves.'' Further, said Justice White, ''[b]ecause of the scarcity of radio frequencies, the Government is permitted to put restraints on licensees in favor of others whose views should be expressed on this unique medium. But the people as a whole retain their interest in free speech by radio and their collective right to have the medium function consistently with the ends and purposes of the First Amendment. It is the right of the viewers and listeners, not the right of the broadcasters, which is paramount.''

I am not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV ;>)

[FreeTheHostages]

You are correct.

The FCC can and should be more aggressive on all of this.

The "as she sees it" stuff at the time of the Gore 2000 debacle was pretty blatant, too.

On the other hand, Rather is *like* (not is) a racist in that sometimes it's nice to have the bias be so overt and blatant, rather than subtle and hidden, so you can see what you're dealing with and defeat it. Rather's nothing if not wearing his political heart on his sleeve.

Still and all, it's a scandal that CBS didn't fire him.

Hope you're doing well.

Courage!,

[my_pointy_head_is_sharp]

Liberal women fired.
Liberal men skate.

Looks like the women were the fall guys.

[longtermmemmory]

FR is a requirement when watching breaking news.

Now if only they could put the running thread comments on the crawl.

[Shortstop7]

Thanks! I still think something is weird about that........

Do we know the name of the "supposed freelance producer" named smith?

I'd sure like to know why nothing more was given on this freelancer?

Dowd or Ivins? Who wants to guess?

[Shortstop7]

Not too lazy here. I read the biggest part of it.

[sevry]

you've got it backwards on that.

No, I'm saying you missed the obvious in your comment. Obviously, the CBS memos were created in MS Word because MS Word, with default settings, and scaled to match on word, or even just line boundries, overlays exactly, letter for letter, line spacing as well. And Composer was used to duplicate the same, and failed because it used only something like four different letter widths, compared to 20 or more for this particular Truetype or PS, and the line spacing was not the same, never mind that no one used Composer for that sort of task.

If you need clarification of what I'm talking about, or was at the time, just check this out. I posted it a few days into Ra^thergate, summarizing what others had discovered, from the 'blogs' and elsewhere, and which many in the LM still might wish to deny, even after the report (the whitewash report for C . . BS).

[Jimmy Valentine's brother]

Thanks for the reply. Long time no hug. Guess work is going ok for you?

[CGVet58]

Ronald Reagan: (paraphrased...)"if you don't care who gets the credit, there's no limit to what you can accomplish"

[Jenya]

Ronald Reagan: (paraphrased...)"if you don't care who gets the credit, there's no limit to what you can accomplish"

Ronald Reagan got all the credit that was due him.

This discussion is about credit (note title of thread). My point is SINCE credit is being discussed, let's give credit where credit is due. It was a collaborative effort, but it was Tanker, and mainly Howlin, who started the engine. Buckhead was instrumental, no doubt, yet he gets all the credit. Everything I've read or seen on tv mentions him as the Freeper who first spotted the suspicious documents. It's simply not true. Not true at all.

[CGVet58]

yes, this discussion is about credit, and my point is; what does it really MATTER who gets credit for the now-visible cracks within a formerly arrogant and self-deluded media giant who thought their collective self to be invincible and above the rest of us untermenschen?

I know Tanker, Howlin, Buckhead, Powerline, etc., figure prominently in this... as does Mr. Robinson for having started FreeRepublic and affording a venue for these Patriots... as does William F. Buckley for having started National Review so far back that he was the lone voice in the (media...) wilderness, but not so lone that it didn't plant the seed that allowed a FreeRepublic to grow, to be populated by the likes of buckhead, and to finally be what it is today, and hopefully continue to grow.

Put it simply, I don't CARE who gets the credit; Rather is going down, his "retirement" - politely-displaced from the actual firings such as it is - is a direct result of the rathergate fiasco... and it doesn't much matter that those same media types continue to insist nodding their heads in unison as they agree in their self-anointed superiority "how it really went down" when you, I and a million other Patriots know the truth.

I do not NEED validation from the people who populate the very same den of thieves in order to feel the extra tug of satisfaction at their come-uppance. My juice comes from seeing them scamper like roaches shooeing away from the beam of a flashlight in the first place. What does it matter to me that - in their running amok as they mouth their false platitudes, bowing out with "mea culpas" - they would then look up and say, "yonder is the person who holds this light upon us"???

In the long run, we ALL are the ones holding that flashlight.

[Jenya]

That's the difference. It matters to me.I do care that credit is given to the right people. My point is that Buckhead gets the credit for blowing the lid off this. Even in your post, "the likes of Buckhead". I think Buckhead is all that and a bag of chips, but somehow, Tanker and Howling got lost in all this.

[CGVet58]

fine. you care about credit, I don't. Remember that this report was fm the media (albeit Fox, near as i can tell fm the orig post...) - don't you think it's a bit off to both want the media rightfully taken down a notch for their blatant misrepresentation/lies, then want them to give truthful claim (in the form of proper credit-assignment)?

I don't need that, not from them. For me, the people that count are like the great majority of Freepers... and they - we - know how this went down, and who started the ball rolling.

[Jenya]

No, I don't think it's off to want to credit the right individuals. Not off at all. If you look at the threads on this forum when the story first broke last September, the majority of Freepers were ecstatic about FR's role in this, ie credit. Everywhere you looked, you'd see a thread with "Free Republic Mentioned" in the title, in regards to a tv segment or an article.

I've heard the wrong credit being assigned by media that I like and trust such as Brit Hume, Fred Barnes, Sean Hannity etc. If FR is cited, only Buckhead is mentioned. Or worse, it's not mentioned at all, and Powerline gets full credit.

There's no shame in enjoying credit. It's only natural for people to feel that way. You don't. I get it.

[CGVet58]

just read my last post - i don't put much value on the words that come from main stream media in the first place - any "words of truth" from them ring hollow and will for a long time.

Other than that, I'm happy for you that you get it. Congratulations.

[SunkenCiv]

Another oldie (January 2005), worth a second (or first) look, given that Katie Al-Couric has taken over Rather's spot.