Travel: Smokers called Animals In A Zoo

Minnesotans Against Smoking Bans ^ | 1-8-05 | Robert Hayes Halfpenny

[SheLion]

I am surprised Salt Lake City Mayor Rocky Anderson didn’t refer to the smokers as swine in a pig sty. Isn’t that, after all one of the one of the first images that comes to mind when think of a pen?  Before I am offended by “da mayor” I would have to be offended by the reference to the term smoking pens. In a city and state  that was founded by a group of people so seriously reviled for their own beliefs in years past, you would think they would be among the first to take a “live and let live” attitude about the behavior and choices of others. Clearly the past lessons learned about intolerance by the Mormons must now have been forgotten.

Only 88 airports nationwide is hardly a mandate to make one’s own airport smoke free. Furthermore if these “smoking kiosks” are eliminated it will only cause people to find other places to smoke. Delta Airlines is correct in standing behind the rights of the smokers.  Perhaps they have taken note that incidence of “air rage” only became prevalent AFTER smoking was banned on aircraft. It should also be noted that since the ban, they no longer use fresh air to ventilate the planes; instead, they just run the air through a filtrations system which in an enclosed environment further exacerbates the problem.

Mayor Anderson’s pompous arrogance in stating that the ban will help smokers to “break the habit” is outrageous. It is not his job to be neither a social engineer nor the arbiter of personal choices. I do know however, that as long as Salt Lake City and Utah continue down this Draconian path of heavy handed intolerance, I will avoid their state in very way possible. I will not travel to it, I will not travel thru it, and I will not support my company scheduling a convention there.

BANS ARE BAD! Read it again, BANS ARE BAD! Banning blacks from white facilities---BAD! Banning books---BAD! Banning Beer---Bad! If the people of Utah agree that these bans are bad, then they must also agree that banning smoking is also BAD! I would certainly hope at this juncture they are starting to realize that any action, that would favor a smoking ban of any type, will only create far more harm than good. IN all fairness I should note their may be one kind of good ban. That of course would be banning Mayor Anderson from further political office at the next election.   

[bob3443]

If my smoking inconveniences and annoys others, that is too bad. Live with it. Has it occurred to you that your aftershave, cologne, or musk could be just as big an inconvenience or annoyance to me. As it so happens the scent of musk bothers me greatly. I however, have the maturity to accept your right to wear it. And, I will move without comment if I find the scent to be too over bearing.

You suggest that I should go poison myself in private and leave your air alone. I already do that whenever I walk into a restaurant or bar that allows smoking. You see when I enter one of those establishments I am then on private property. I am exercising my legal right to smoke. And, I am doing so with the approval of that property owner. If you don't like my smoking take yourself and your agenda to an operation that does not allow smoking. THAT IS WHAT IS CALLED PERSONAL CHOICE! YOUR SOPHOMORIC SOPHISTRY IS, AS ONE WOULD EXPECT, FULL OF HOLES!p>

[Incandesia]

Sorry to bother you, may I join your Puff list?

[microgood]

In both types I cited, antisocial behavior is a very common characteristic, as it is also in other forms of addiction, such as alcoholism and compulsive gambling. Family interests and other social relations are frequently sacrificed for the sake of the individual demands of the addiction.

I know what you mean. I live hear in the Seattle area and the real sick addiction up here is caffeine. Anyone who drinks coffee is a real sick person and their addiction is worse than nicotine or crack cocaine. Until they can get the caffeine thing under control minor addictions like gambling, nicotine, heroin or crack cocaine are a drop in the bucket.

[metesky]

I get like that whenever Free Republic goes down.

[SheLion]

Sorry to bother you, may I join your Puff list?

You are no bother at all! And I have you added!

I love your tag line, and welcome to Free Republic!

[SheLion]

Especially when you consider the fact that this was not a thread posted soliciting advice on how to quit. I would be afraid of that thread, to be honest.

Personally, I would have no interest in a thread like that. I am quite comfortable and happy. :) Even with my ANTI-SOCIAL BEHAVIOR.

[SheLion]

Here is the URL for Famous Smokers:

Gallery of Famous Smokers

[SheLion]

Patches. Gum. Getting rid of the addiction. There are options.

Just like birth control measures. I am an adult female and I am aware of all the devices, thank you.

But if I ever reach the point where I can no longer stand to light up a cigarette, I won't.

[SheLion]

You suggest that I should go poison myself in private and leave your air alone. I already do that whenever I walk into a restaurant or bar that allows smoking. You see when I enter one of those establishments I am then on private property. I am exercising my legal right to smoke. And, I am doing so with the approval of that property owner. If you don't like my smoking take yourself and your agenda to an operation that does not allow smoking. THAT IS WHAT IS CALLED PERSONAL CHOICE! YOUR SOPHOMORIC SOPHISTRY IS, AS ONE WOULD EXPECT, FULL OF HOLES!

BOB! Are you sure you want to post the above to ME??? :)

[SheLion]

Um...I think you have replied to the wrong person, FRiend. Better double check. :)

Heheh!

[TexasCowboy]

"If you smoke, you are just plain stupid, or else hopelessly addicted. There is no other rational explanation."

You come on a smoking thread and use that line first in your first post and expected to be treated cordially??

You're dumber than a box full of rocks!

[TexasCowboy]

Why is the concept of private property so alien to you anti-smoking idiots?

My body is private property. It's none of your business what I do with my body.

The bar down the street belongs to the owner. It's none of your business how he runs his business.

Get off your sanctimonious crap and leave us to hell alone!

[exnavychick]

I would be afraid of that thread, to be honest.
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LOL. I was thinking of how some of these guys are coming onto a thread about something else entirely and delivering unsolicited advice. Can you imagine how much worse it would be if someone actually ASKED for advice? You would get some nice replies, to be sure, and encouraging stories, which is great. But I'm also quite certain we'd get a lot of stuff along the lines of "Well, why did you even start in the first place, stupid? It's bad for you, everyone knows THAT!!" or "Don't pick one up and light it. Simple!"

I've practiced quitting (lol) enough times to have heard it all. :)

Ugh.

[exnavychick]

It's a good thing I was right...did you see he reposted to doc-something or other? I can't remember the rest of his handle, now. Sorry.

[RandallFlagg]

Perhaps I was responding in kind to the tone of your post.

I was referring to your quotes that I linked to in that post, not your replies to any post I made. So you won't have to go searching for it again, I'll assist:

My "Last post" that I was referring to.
And your quotes were:
"I think I have just found another irritable smoker. Or is it, another irritable smoker has found me."
"No. Just the typical smokers."

That help any?

[RandallFlagg]

You forgot. As the author inferred in the original article, a group prone to rage.

But you said "Why are smokers more violent than non-smokers?" You didn't say anything about, "rage," which is probably why you received the responses that you did.

As I've stated before: IMHO, you instigated it.

[RandallFlagg]

I own a few plastic cigarettes for the sole purpose of having it in my mouth at malls, offices, department stores, just for amusement. I have no intention of quitting.

I sometimes keep an unlit cig in my mouth. Drives 'em up the wall!

[SheLion]

You come on a smoking thread and use that line first in your first post and expected to be treated cordially??

Exactly. Then they get all bent out of shape when we give it right back to them. I don't know what the hell they think we should do. Roll over in a fetal position and let them just kick us? They have another thought coming.

[SheLion]

I've practiced quitting (lol) enough times to have heard it all. :)

Boy, in this day and age, don't tell anyone when you DO try to quit. They will be all over you trying to "help." LOL!

[exnavychick]

Boy, in this day and age, don't tell anyone when you DO try to quit. They will be all over you trying to "help." LOL

I know. It's enough to drive you to drink!! LOL But that's another thread, heh heh.