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Family wishes ghostly noises would just go away
DundalkEagle.com ^ | 6 Dec 04 | Joseph M. Giordano

Posted on 01/07/2005 9:14:48 PM PST by CurlyBill

Family wishes ghostly noises would just go away

Occupants believe their West Inverness house is spooked

by Joseph M. Giordano

When members of the Meyers family saw a figure in the window of the Jasmine Road house they wanted to buy, they should have known something was up.

But they didn't, and now they may be living with something paranormal.

"His name is Dexter," said 8-year-old Ozzie Meyers V. "And he kept asking me to read to him."

Ozzie's parents, Jennifer, an apparently down-to-Earth woman who works for Johns Hopkins University, and Ozzie IV, a stay-at-home dad, thought it might have been an imaginary friend. Then something happened that sent a chill through their West Inverness household.

"Ozzie [V] came to us about two years ago and told us that the little boy in the attic wanted him to play with his train tracks," said Jennifer Meyers, who bought the house in 1998. "My husband went to the attic to check it out. He found old toy train tracks under the insulation. We were convinced after that."

The house, in the 2000 block of Jasmine Road, was built in 1957 on a plot of land that used to be part of the Lynch family farm, according to Baltimore County land records.

The Meyers family moved in after a series of renters had lived in the home, Jennifer Meyers said.

Though the renters had no problems with anything out of the ordinary, they had an interesting occurrence at a party they hosted at the house, according to a neighbor.

"Just before the Meyerses moved in, there was a party at the house," said the neighbor, who asked that her name not be used. "And they had invited a psychic. During the party, the psychic was at the [dining room] table and told [the guests] that someone had brought a spirit into the house."

The neighbor has lived in her home for 30 years and believes that something is not quite right about the Meyerses' house.

"I believe them," the neighbor said. "I hear something running up and down the stairs when no one is at home. There are thumps on the wall and other noises when the house is empty."

In December, Jennifer and her husband appeared on The Montel Williams Show when celebrity psychic Sylvia Brown was the guest and the topic was "the unknown." The opening to the attic where the family hears strange sounds.

"We weren't too happy with [Brown's] answer," Jennifer Meyers said. "She was contradictory and didn't make any sense."

Part of the show was filmed at the Meyerses' home and featured a clip - recorded by one of the show's cameramen- of the lights above the dining room table rapidly going on and off.

"That seems to happen when we're at dinner and arguing about something," Jennifer Meyers said.

Everyone in the house has had strange experiences they can't explain.

"I hate doing laundry in the basement alone," Jennifer Meyers said. "I have seen the figure of a man downstairs."

Ozzie IV., who was always skeptical, has seen a shadow that moved up the steps from the first floor.

"That's what made a believer out of me," he said. "I also woke up and there was a man in front of our bed. My wife saw it too."

Beside the banging sounds against the wall and noises in the basement, the family has several questionable photographs that include a dark anomily around the children, especially their 17-month-old daughter, Genevieve.

"This black shape appears in a number of pictures of our daughter," Jennifer Meyers said. "We have one of an orb above her head at the christening."

Orbs are photographic anomalies that some believe indicate the presence of a ghost and like any other "proof" of the unknown are highly debatable.

One type of evidence that's harder to explain away is electronic voice phenomena (EVP).

EVP are picked up on video and audio tape but are unheard and unseen while the original recorded interview is taking place, according to the American Association of Electronic Voice Phenomena's Web site.

Strange sounds were picked up on an audio tape even though they weren't heard while the family's interview with The Eagle was taking place at the house. The sounds crop up over both Jennifer Meyers' and her son's voices throughout the recording.

Though not especially religious, the Meyerses have had everyone from a Catholic priest to a practitioner of Wicca come through and bless the house.

"Nothing seems to work," Jennifer Meyers said. "We've even yelled 'In the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, go back where you came from,' but it didn't work."

"I try to keep a sense of humor about it all," she said. "But I want whatever it is to stop scaring my children."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; Philosophy; US: Maryland
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To: BurbankKarl

Didn't somebody put a ghost up for sale on ebay?


41 posted on 01/07/2005 10:21:53 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: rwfromkansas

Allow me a purely scientific point here, even though I do believe in God and I am a strong Christian. Physics tells us that energy can change forms, but does not just disappear. We know there is energy within our bodies which is essentially our personality. It's what keeps our heart beating and our brain working. It's what we are. When we die, there is really no energy there at all. We know it did not dissipate or "evaporate" because the laws of physics tell us that this is not possible. What happened to it?


42 posted on 01/07/2005 10:23:19 PM PST by CurlyBill (The difference between Madeline Albright and Helen Thomas is a mere 15 years.)
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To: CurlyBill

So you're suggesting that when people die, their personalities, essentially a form of energy, get up and walk around in the form of people and try to communicate? Would that mean that the afterlife is your concious personality walking around the world forever? I'm just trying to figure out how the scientific explanation of ghosts works here. I think if that were the case, all the leftover energy from everyone who's ever existed would be walking around all over the place and would be pretty hard to miss by the average person.


43 posted on 01/07/2005 10:27:25 PM PST by Free and Armed
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To: Calvin Locke

I think that was Scooter Peterson's soul


44 posted on 01/07/2005 10:28:21 PM PST by D Edmund Joaquin
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To: Free and Armed

I'm saying I don't understand it. There is an evergy within us, nobody can deny that. We also know that energy does not dissipate. What happens to it? Is there such a thing as "location" at that point? I really don't know. It's a great mystery, and for me it's very interesting and fun to discuss these things.


45 posted on 01/07/2005 10:33:47 PM PST by CurlyBill (The difference between Madeline Albright and Helen Thomas is a mere 15 years.)
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To: CurlyBill
Well for a Christian the body is just the tabernacle and upon death, we go to be where Jesus is, and per the bible, there is a gulf, a separation that no soul can cross back to the living in this world.

That being said, I believe that there are "spirits"of the air-- Lucifer's army if you will. These things can take form and fool you into thinking they are long lost relatives and friends--psychic vampires. A true believer can say to them, per the bible -- "The Lord rebuke you" and they have to go

46 posted on 01/07/2005 10:39:18 PM PST by D Edmund Joaquin
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To: D Edmund Joaquin

A good explanation and I agree with it, but I'm curious as to whether or not science can point towards a weird phenomena where energy can take the form of a deceased person after they die, and basically linger around for a while. It sounds pretty far-fetched, but there are scientists that believe it's true. Maybe it's just a bad explanation for what is really supernatural, but are there any scientifically-minded freepers out there that care to enlighten me?


47 posted on 01/07/2005 10:42:43 PM PST by Free and Armed
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To: D Edmund Joaquin

I just looked at that page, it's weird how some ghosts interact with people and some don't. Like some aren't aware they're dead and others have become aware. I think seeing a ghost would be interesting, but if he looked back at me and smiled or looked at me malevolently. Well, as Fred Sanford would say, I'd have a big one lol.

Personally I think it's people who are very attached to this life and need more time to let go. It fits with battlefields being haunted. Of course living out half conscious memories for eternity would be my idea of hell, so there's that theory too.


48 posted on 01/07/2005 10:43:34 PM PST by grizzly84
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To: Free and Armed

The scientific explanation: it's all a bunch of hokum. And what isn't hokum is nonsense.


49 posted on 01/07/2005 10:44:52 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: grizzly84

Not if those memories involved a little something with a hot girlfriend. haha


50 posted on 01/07/2005 10:45:27 PM PST by Free and Armed
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To: CurlyBill

Well, when we die, it goes into the ground as nutrients that then transfers to something else etc.

But, I believe some sort of energy remains after we die beyond this...Nightline sure convinced me a couple years ago. This could be what at least some aspects of hauntings are.


51 posted on 01/07/2005 10:47:20 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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To: CurlyBill
Allow me a purely scientific point here, even though I do believe in God and I am a strong Christian. Physics tells us that energy can change forms, but does not just disappear. We know there is energy within our bodies which is essentially our personality. It's what keeps our heart beating and our brain working. It's what we are. When we die, there is really no energy there at all. We know it did not dissipate or "evaporate" because the laws of physics tell us that this is not possible. What happened to it?

From a purely scientific standpoint, all the energy our body uses is stored in the form of high-energy chemicals: sugars, fatty acids, nucleotide phosphates, and other organic molecules. The brain places high demands for energy on the rest of the body and a continuous supply of these chemicals must be constantly provided by the circulatory system to meet those demands. There is no “aura” of energy that has to go somewhere when we die. Immediately after death, certain cells in your body may still be alive, and they will persist for a time until some limiting nutrient gets used up. There will remain plenty of energy stored in the form of fat and proteins, which becomes worm food. You can argue that a supernatural soul is released, but don’t try saying that science validates the existence of ghosts. Ever pull the plug on your computer? There is no ghost created as the CPU becomes starved of power.

52 posted on 01/07/2005 10:47:44 PM PST by rmmcdaniell
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To: CurlyBill

Wow. Just like in the movies: House is haunted and the family STAYS.

MM


53 posted on 01/07/2005 10:47:54 PM PST by MississippiMan (Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
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To: Free and Armed

I think in some cases, we might experience an aberration in time. I personally believe in the eternal now, that all of time is still happening. Maybe it can overlap. While vacationing one time at the battle of the little Big Horn, I was awakened in the night by screaming Indians and the sound of a battle. I asked my wife the next morning why she was up so late with the tv blaring. She looked at me funny and said "Me? I thought it was you!" It was not a dream


54 posted on 01/07/2005 10:48:57 PM PST by D Edmund Joaquin
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To: D Edmund Joaquin
That being said, I believe that there are "spirits"of the air-- Lucifer's army if you will. These things can take form and fool you into thinking they are long lost relatives and friends--psychic vampires. A true believer can say to them, per the bible -- "The Lord rebuke you" and they have to go

Exactly...familiar spirits. It's why the bible says don't mess with them:

Lev 19:31 Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I [am] the LORD your God.

Deu 18:10 There shall not be found among you [any one] that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, [or] that useth divination, [or] an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,
Deu 18:11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
Deu 18:12 For all that do these things [are] an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

55 posted on 01/07/2005 10:51:39 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: D Edmund Joaquin

Very interesting. If the thing about the eternal now is true, it would hold water much better than the thing about energy. How does the eternal now work? Is it something like every event that's ever happened repeats itself or something for eternity in some dimention? Sounds like quantum mechanics or science fiction.


56 posted on 01/07/2005 10:54:37 PM PST by Free and Armed
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To: grizzly84

I think the battlefields would more likely be time related or evil entities attracted to suffering. There was one story on tv, Unsolved Mysteries I think, where a guard at Bullrun or somewhere saw a big fellow with green eyes. The bible and Jewish lore have a name for these things, the undead


57 posted on 01/07/2005 10:55:02 PM PST by D Edmund Joaquin
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To: Free and Armed

Yes, I believe in it as I believe that God is outside of time and the whole time thing is a created thing


58 posted on 01/07/2005 10:56:54 PM PST by D Edmund Joaquin
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To: D Edmund Joaquin

Lol, now we're getting into the undead? Where does the bible mention zombies? Yeah, I can't sleep and therefore treating this message board almost like an instant messenger.


59 posted on 01/07/2005 10:57:17 PM PST by Free and Armed
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To: CurlyBill
Though not especially religious, the Meyerses have had everyone from a Catholic priest to a practitioner of Wicca come through and bless the house.

"Nothing seems to work," Jennifer Meyers said. "We've even yelled 'In the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, go back where you came from,' but it didn't work."

If a demon IS at work here, a Wiccan is certainly NOT going to shoo away evil.

In the case of yelling "in the name of Jesus Christ," invoking His name is effective only had they truly had faith in Him.

It's obvious they did not.

60 posted on 01/07/2005 10:57:46 PM PST by F16Fighter
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