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On Ducks And Homosexuality
RedState.org ^ | Dec. 17, 2004 | Treowth

Posted on 01/01/2005 3:36:30 AM PST by Lindykim

In a recent debate between myself and some radical homosexuals, one of them asked me, by way of refutation whose implicit intentions were to convince me that I am a 'hateful homophobe' and also to persuade me that homosexual behavior is a 'natural orientation," if and when I had 'chosen' to be heterosexual. "Was it at age 3, 6, 13, 19?" he asked, "Or did you (a female) just 'naturally' gravitate towards boys or men without any outside pressure or force?"

My response:

There was no 'choice'........there was never any question........it simply occured as naturally as breathing air. Now for yourself, 'something' occured that interfered with your natural progression towards manhood that, in effect, stunted this natural process in much the same way as a baby duck can have its natural progression towards becoming a mature duck interfered with. This usually occurs when a human causes the chick to imprint upon the human rather than upon an adult duck. So does the 'interference' with natural progression make the baby duck into something other than a duck? That the chick seems to believe itself to be, and even tries to be human make it human in fact? Of course not. It's still a duck in every sense of what it means to be a duck. Just as you are still a heterosexual despite that you believe you are 'something else'.

Should duck society and the laws of nature by which that society exists be overturned and forced to become upside-down in order to accomodate improperly imprinted ducks? Of course not. That would be insane. Just as it is dangerously insane for "improperly imprinted" human beings to demand that heterosexual society and the laws of nature by which it needs to exist should be turned upside-down in order to accomodate them.

What happened to the duck was wrong. What happened to you was not just wrong, but horribly tragic. However, for the greater good of our civilization, you and others like you should not be advocating that society and the innocence of childhood be swept aside and made to accept that "improper imprintation" is somehow a 'good' thing. Although you ardently wish to pretend otherwise, you do know deep down inside yourself that it isn't.

What you should be doing.......for the GOOD of all mankind and most especially for children........is learning {gaining wisdom} from your suffering in order that you can PREVENT what happened to you from happening to other children. That would be not just love, but agape, the highest form of love........love that calls for self-denial and self-sacrifice for the good of others


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: duck; ducks; homosexualagenda; homosexuality
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To: opocno
So, I guess if those are stiletto heels, you would call them "duck me shoes?"
Sorry, couldn't resist

You could have made an effort.

[J/K - LOL!]

101 posted on 01/01/2005 10:05:17 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: PFC

My words were unduly harsh and knee jerk reactionary. Please accept my apology.


102 posted on 01/01/2005 10:09:20 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
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103 posted on 01/01/2005 10:10:15 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: All

CNN sent a reporter to Key West for the news years celebration.

They had a choice of THREE parties to show.

1. A giant lighted Conch Shell being lowered from a flag pole. (giant as in REALLY BIG)

2. A very pretty live woman being lowered from the mast of a Pirate Ship. (actually the pirate museum and its a real naturally born woman)

3. A man dressed like a woman, a very ugly woman, sitting is a giant red woman's high heal shoe chair.

Soooo which one did CNN show? Four gueses and the first three don't count.


104 posted on 01/01/2005 10:25:40 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Graybeard58

accepted.


105 posted on 01/01/2005 10:32:53 AM PST by PFC
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To: Lindykim

Unless humanes have become asexual any species that is in capable of procreating is self diminishing, hence unnatural.


106 posted on 01/01/2005 10:36:22 AM PST by Tempest (Click on my name for a long list of press contacts)
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To: Melinda in TN
There are not any boundaries anymore.

In my opinion this is much of the why.

I believe when sex becomes just sex outside of love commitment it, and responsibility it starts there.

The world is why mixed up about what is sexual fulfillment. They read about perversion in books; watch perverted TV etc and it makes them think they have to keep going further for fulfillment.
107 posted on 01/01/2005 10:41:40 AM PST by Delphinium
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To: TexasCowboy
a sexual desire for my mother.

Cowboy ever hear of a guy named Oedipus?
108 posted on 01/01/2005 10:50:33 AM PST by redheadtoo
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To: TexasCowboy
How can those relationships develop if the homosexuals fear women?

Why are you asking him? It seems clear that "homosexuals" exist only as an abstract concept in his mind. It's not at all clear he's ever met or had any sort of social relationships with actual gay people.

109 posted on 01/01/2005 10:57:23 AM PST by garbanzo (Free people will set the course of history)
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To: Melinda in TN
Thankyou for being open about this. What about the relationship between your child and him?

Recently a very conservative family in our church found out their son was declaring and practicing homosexual with another Christian families son.

He was alway a very popular, good looking and maybe too pretty kid.

They are a very reserved family, in fact I have always considered them almost snobbish.

One day I was in a private conversation with her and started talking opening,(as I always do) about spiritual reasons that I consider to be part of the causes of perversion. We weren't even on the subject of homosexual behavior, but she told me that both her father, and her brother were practicing homosexuals.

She told me she was worried about her sons hatred for George Bush, but never brought him up. I don't think they had faced it yet even though the whole highschool is talking about it.

I wonder if they just were to naive and allowed one of those family members to get to their son?
110 posted on 01/01/2005 11:05:08 AM PST by Delphinium
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To: truthandlogic

"These questions seem like a choice is involved. It is my opinion that homosexuality is learned behavior."


Until 15 or 20 years ago gays called their behavior an "alternative livestyle choice". When it became politically advantageous, gays started saying their behavior was NOT a choice. My guess is that a fair percentage of gays result from abnormal hormonal exposure in the womb. Another large percentage probably arise from childhood trauma (usually sex abuse).


111 posted on 01/01/2005 11:17:46 AM PST by BadAndy (Specializing in unnecessarily harsh comments.)
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To: Melinda in TN; All
Homosexuality is not so different from any other vice. Here's a way to help one understand the homosexual vice if it's seen as extremely abnormal (as it in fact is).

Examine your own vice(s). If you are a glutton for certain foods or alcohol, then use that vice to understand the homosexual vice.

If you have a short temper, then examine your vice of rage to parallel that with the homosexual vice.

If you lust after the opposite sex to sinful obsession(coveting your neighbor's spouse, looking at forbidden fruit, etc.) then this too is similar to the homosexual vice.

Why is homosexuality such a difficult vice to examine for non-homosexuals? I think it's because non-homosexuals try to observe the mechanics of the vice instead of the sinner and the nature of sin.

The first element of abnormal and sinful behavior is disobedience. Whether one uses the Judeo-Christian model of decency or scientific reasoning to examine the purpose of sexuality (the function of male and female reproductive organs), the conclusion is the same. The homosexual lifestyle is perpetuates and recruits people into an attitude of disobedience against reality (and God's design).

I've had a difficult time understanding homosexuality (especially when I became the object of desire by a homosexual). Upon a lot of reflection and prayer, I was able to understand and forgive the one who put me in such a hostile situation. What helped me is my understanding of my own weakness.

If I hadn't examined my own vices and prayerfully asked for God's Graces to fight my weaknesses, I, in self-defence, would have killed the one who assaulted me. Instead, I reflected upon the horrendous state of self-depricating misery that this man was in, and I forgave him.

It's better to bring lost sheep back into the fold. I think it pleases God to do such.

Matthew 6:12 "and forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors"
112 posted on 01/01/2005 11:32:12 AM PST by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" begins with the unborn child.)
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To: Nightshift

Think of the vainglorious king in the 'Kings' New Clothes,' and then imagine how utterly shocked he'd be if he discovered that instead of being adorned in the finest garments he really was naked after all. The homosexuals shocked reaction was like that. There was one feeble "but you don't understand," and then silence. Not only did they shut up, but they quit the thread. That's the power of truth.


113 posted on 01/01/2005 11:34:55 AM PST by Lindykim
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To: Delphinium
What about the relationship between your child and him?

Since she was very young when it all happened I did allow her to be with him on weekends. I made it very clear that if she ever mentioned witnessing any lewd behavior between him and any of his "friends" that it would be the end of his visitation. As I found out much later, that was a mistake, but since I didn't have proof of what I had found I didn't have a lot of choice. I monitored things very closely and when she was about 12 she started talking about some things she was seeing. We went back to court and his visitation rights were taken away. She understood the reason and I think she was glad that we did that. The whole thing was much more devastating for her than it was for me. That's another reason I think they should not be allowed to adopt. She developed some issues and had to have some professional counseling but we got to her in time, almost. I had remarried by that time and my husband legally adopted her. She's not as open about it as I am because she's afraid people will assume that it's inherited and she might be that way. Even with the counseling she did get pregnant (not married) and one reason was because she thought if she had a baby nobody would accuse her of being like him. This whole situation causes all kinds of problems. I believe good can come out of anything though. I was upset about the pregnancy but we gave her an acre of land and she put a nice mobile home on it just 500 feet from our house so that she could be independent but we would be close enough to take care of them. I have the most precious granddaughter that God ever put on this earth and I can't imagine life without her. My daughter has a wonderful boyfriend now and is doing fine.

114 posted on 01/01/2005 11:39:53 AM PST by Melinda in TN
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To: PFC
As someone with a gay brother, I can tell you that there is no person I, or anyone in our family, could count on more in a time of need.

I don't mean to be intrusive, and if you don't want to answer these questions please don't - and accept my apology.
Are you a male or female? Were you and your brother raised in the same home? Was your father around? If so, was he what you'd consider a "loving father", and did he spend much time with your brother? Are you aware of any abuse that your brother might have endured as a child? Thanks. As I said, answer as you feel comfortable.
115 posted on 01/01/2005 11:41:30 AM PST by Jaysun (DEMOCRATS: "We need to be more effective at fooling people.")
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To: SaltyJoe

That's the reason that I don't hate them. I actually pity them and if I had a child or friend that was trending that way I would at least get them help from a Christian psychiatrist. I still don't want to associate with them (unless they genuinely want help) or have them around children.


116 posted on 01/01/2005 11:44:02 AM PST by Melinda in TN
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To: longtermmemmory
Soooo which one did CNN show? Four gueses and the first three don't count.

(hopping up and down in my chair, arm raised)...


117 posted on 01/01/2005 12:03:33 PM PST by Jaysun (DEMOCRATS: "We need to be more effective at fooling people.")
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To: Lindykim

bttt


118 posted on 01/01/2005 12:17:38 PM PST by Lindykim
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To: Lindykim

Have you ever noticed Donald Duck spoke with a lisp?


119 posted on 01/01/2005 12:24:49 PM PST by Mark in the Old South (Note to GOP "Deliver or perish" Re: Specter I guess the GOP "chooses" to perish)
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To: longtermmemmory
It is very disturbing that Oliver Stone had intentionally envisioned CHILDREN watching homosexual acts through his movie.

Speaking about the media?

Has anyone heard stories about Phuket and some of those resorts that were just destroyed being major homosexual resorts?

Evidently it is a place where men go to buy young boys?
120 posted on 01/01/2005 12:25:50 PM PST by Delphinium
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