Posted on 12/31/2004 5:43:33 AM PST by white trash redneck
We don't agree with your vision of America, so thus we hate America?
Give me a break. I am sick and tired of such scurrilous comments from you.
I wasn't talking to you.
BlackElk is the one who wants to overrun America with illegals so he can bankrupt state and local governments across the country and thereby defund social programs and public education.
But it is true that the OBL wants an America something like Brazil with the rich behind walls and everyone else scrounging for garbage to eat.
I don't get it.
Well, that should justify my return to Western Europe to break their laws.
My agendas are two. The first is Roman Catholicism as it was taught to me in the 1950s (not at all pacifistically inclined). The second is the Sharon Statement of Young Americans for Freedom. You can find it on YAF.com or YAF.org, one or the other. One is Young Americans for Freedom. The other is a foundation run by YAF alumni. In cases of conflicts (which I have yet to ever discover), Catholicism rules.
Anyone whose agenda is abortion AND birth control AND snowbird socialism AND lavenderism AND gun controlism and tax hikism NEEDS to be cleansed. Give them 6 months to leave for Canada or any other country large enough for them not to control before the cleansing begins. The USA started as a free country and, by damn, needs to restore that freedom whether you want welfarism for your grandma or not. Whatever your grandma gets is going to "illegals" as well. See the Fourteenth Amendment Equal Protection clause. It is in all the constitutions. We are conservatives. Welfarism needs to go away permanently for everyone including grandma.
I had really hoped to ignore you starting several posts ago. If I stop posting, do not assume that I agree. Disagreeing with you except on the wages subissue is my default position.
Ronald Reagan (Ronaldus Maximus) ran the cupboard down. He rebuilt the military and particularly the 600 ship Navy. It became less possible to fund the welfare state as a result. He was democratically elected and re-elected (massively in both cases) in case you have forgotten. Do you really think that overwhelming social service programs will end this form of American socialism??? If so, that's one more reason to bring in the Mexicans. Sounds like a plan.
I am loyal to the United States and not to Mexico. I am somewhat less enthusiastic now during the Abortion Holocaust Era than I used to be before it.
While you are obsessing over the borders, do you have a practical plan for ending abortion and alternative lifestyles other than importing socially conservative voters to punish the "I am personally opposed BUT...." crowd and take back the Supreme Court and do to the social issue left what they have done to 1.5 million babies per year for thirty-two years now.
As to whether the end justifies the means, you could raise that question to Injustices William O. Douglas, Herod Blackmun, Potter Stewart, Lewis Powell John Paul Stevens, Anthony Kennedy, Sandra Day O'Connor, Swish Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsberg, Stephen Breyer and some others but most of them are as dead as the 45 million babies whose murders they and others arranged. Since Roe vs. Wade and until its suppression by overrule, the rule of law is DEAD in America. So, don't appeal to the law. I am certainly willing to act democratically. Why else would it be necessary to bring in social conservatives? Newsom broke the moral law. Whether he broke California's law in judicial theory remains to be discovered by the California Supremes. One ought not to be optimistic given the contortions regularly utilized by our courts to abolish the remains of Western Civilization.
No, he seems to have a valid point about some things.
And quite frnakly, government has gotten too big. Sooner or later, it has to be reduced, or else we'll have an economic collapse.
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Then what would stop the employers of illegals now from employing cheaper new illegals when the current crop gets legzlized?
With the right incentive, illegals *will* register. The carrot will win what the stick will not. Mandatory workplace registrations won't work. Voluntary registrations will work. Choose one.
If HR 5111 passes and an employer is found not to have complied with mandatory verification, he's subject to fines of $50,000 per illegal employed and five years in prison. How many employers do you think would ignore that law, after a few convictions?
Reading between the lines, you want more Mexicans because they are socially conservative, and will be part of the coalition to enact laws, or form mobs, to drive what you consider socially liberal Anglos out of the United States (you know, the folks that favor legalized contraception and the like) as part of a "cleansing" action. Is that a fair characterization?
Mass immigration soaring since 2000 “The current rate of immigration has jumped significantly over the historically high 1990s level, according to according to U.S. Census Bureau estimates. Immigrants are estimated to be pouring into the country at a rate that increases the population by about 1.4 million each year."
It's not federal employees who will be doing *all* of the checking. Some of that checking will be performed by union goons and liberal do-gooders.
Consider who would be doing the checking and complaining if you, a non-union person, were plugging in and setting up electronics and lights at a public venue in Philadelphia; union members, not federal bureaucrats.
The web of illegal activity is very insidious.
It's evil tenticals go everywhere, it's supporters even infesting conservative internet forums to disrupt, and front for what support of illegal immigration feeds.
Whatever are you referring too? What history book did you get this out of?
And many of us are descendents of people who were run off their land in this country as well...hell, let's just give the damn country away to any minority group that demands it!
Nope.
We use carrots in the form of plea bargains *every day* in this country. Even the IRS settles tax disputes for pennies on the Dollar rather than taking every single violator to trial. That's what the carrot can do that the stick can not (you can't even have 12 member jury trials for 8 million illegals, for instance, do the math!).
I wrote of snowBIRDS not snowboarders. Remember from 2000: Florida snowbird song: "I couldn't have voted for Pat Buchanan. I wanted to vote for Al Gore. I've been defrauded (by their own stupidity???). I wanted federal restaurant-provided breakfast, lunch, dinner and midnight snack care and bar-provided booze care and that fascist Bush won't give it to me!
Feigned anti-racism????? Most Mexicans are Catholics. So am I. They beolong to the human race. So do I. I would gladly trade each and every American resident abortionist and each and every American resident practicing lavender for straight, non-abortionist Mexicans or enslaved Venezuelans. I would also similarly trade away 75% of the members of the National Education Association of Senator Tom Coburn's selection and all members and conributors and employees of NARAL, Emily's List, Planned Barrenhood, the Sierra Club, the Lambda Legal Defense Fund and the ACLU in exchange for moral and upwardly aspiring Mexicans or other Latin Americans. I have also told you that the economic arguments that are made by the border obsessives are probably the only arguments of theirs worth listening to. You aren't hearing what I am posting. Sorry not to fit the stereotype you would like to impose. I am also not at all rich and live modestly and openly on the Northwest Illinois plains where your food is grown and not gathered from garbage heaps.
In 1900, Alabamians lived in a democratic society as a state. Many laws were known as Jim Crow laws, duly enacted by the Alabama legislature and quite unconstitutional as are the anti-Mexican acts of Pete Wilson and his ink in the modern southwest.
Which ethnic group do you suggest that I want to cleanse? Or is that just more ramblng irrational blather?
Do you have any actual conservative views: guns, taxes, abortion, lavenderism, miltary force, etc.? Are you actually a conservative or do you just do a bad job of playing one on the internet? Did you vote for Dubya in 2000? In 2004? Why, why not? You are beginning to look like you will be fun.
So you believe in freedom. Just anyone who disagrees with you needs to be "cleansed" within six months.
You support illegal immigration because you think that if America can become a majority Catholic country then "cleansing" (i.e., getting rid of all those Protestant degenerates and thereby avenging the Irish Famine) can be advanced. Sorry, pal. The Hispanics of today aren't the hyper-Catholic Irish of a century ago. And given that most immigrants are poor, why should they be opposed to social services ? The GOP has never done well with immigrant groups because immigrants, generally being poor, want lots of social services.
Ronald Reagan never really touched middle class entitlement programs. He didn't because he knew the American people would have a fit if he touched Medicare, Social Security, deductability of mortgage interest, etc. I know it upsets the rightness of you true believer types to live among the wicked, but freedom means working by persuasion, not "cleansing" people out or waging ethnic warfare against this nation. Abortion is an evil, but I smell in you the greater evils of terrorism and totalitarianism due to your fundamental lawlessness and contempt for consent of the governed.
You need to sit down, read the Constitution, and take a very, very basic civics lesson.
That's why most of the illegals legalized by the Bush plan would have to have entered illegally, taken illegal employment, and used fraudulent federal documentation to do so. The fraudulent documents and perjurious IRS forms will be necessary to prove that the other laws were properly broken by the illegal in order to qualify for Bush's legal "guest worker" status.
But...
"I don't think we ought to reward illegal behavior." President Bush, 10/13/2004
LOL!
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