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Machine guns found near Kansas creek
Topeka Capital-Journal ^ | 31 dec 2004 | AP

Posted on 12/31/2004 3:00:06 AM PST by csvset

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To: hopespringseternal
After WW2, my wife's grandfather was sent to dump crates of garands still packed in cosmoline in a creek.

Idiots giving orders was a real hazard back in the days of the draft. I wonder if stupidity like that still goes on?

101 posted on 12/31/2004 10:17:04 AM PST by JimRed (Investigate, overturn and prosecute vote fraud in the State of Washington !)
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To: CDHart

Granted not all .50 calibre weapons are macine guns, the Browning M2 definately is. It has been in the US arsenal since before WWII.

Length: 61.42 inches (156 centimeters)
Weight:
Gun: 84 pounds (38 kilograms)
M3 Tripod (Complete): 44 pounds (19.98 kilograms)
Total: 128 pounds (58 kilograms)
Bore diameter: .50 inches (12.7mm)
Maximum effective range: 2000 meters with tripod mount
Maximum range: 4.22 miles (6.8 kilometers)
Cyclic rate of fire: 550 rounds per minute
Unit Replacement Cost: $14,002

Features: The Browning M2 .50 Caliber Machine Gun, Heavy barrel is an automatic, recoil operated, air-cooled machine gun with adjustable headspace and is crew transportable with limited amounts of ammunition over short distances. By repositioning some of the component parts, ammunition may be fed from either the left or right side. A disintegrating metallic link-belt is used to feed the ammunition into the weapon. This gun is has a back plate with spade grips, trigger, and bolt latch release. This gun may be mounted on ground mounts and most vehicles as an anti-personnel and anti-aircraft weapon. The gun is equipped with leaf-type rear sight, flash suppressor and a spare barrel assembly. Associated components are the M63 antiaircraft mount and the M3 tripod mount.


102 posted on 12/31/2004 10:23:20 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: csvset

bump


103 posted on 12/31/2004 11:11:21 AM PST by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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To: USMCVet

The red outling on the white bars was used only from the end of June 1943 to the middle of September 1943. After that the outline was in blue so I would agree that it would probably be 1944.


104 posted on 12/31/2004 11:35:35 AM PST by Nakota
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To: csvset
Seems to me the Sheriff should be looking for the perps, down stream, under the ice.
105 posted on 12/31/2004 11:44:13 AM PST by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but have recently come to my senses.)
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To: FreedomPoster; humblegunner; TexasCowboy; Eaker; SLB; Travis McGee; Jeff Head

Well sheeet fur ! Lookie what fell off the back of a truck !!

Note to thief ....improve on cache skills dumbass......

Imagne if Islamakazis had waded into the rose bowl parade with these mounted in a sand bagged bed of a dump truck.....


106 posted on 12/31/2004 11:48:56 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

There will be plenty of blame – and punishment – to go around, particularly since it made the news.


107 posted on 12/31/2004 12:07:29 PM PST by R. Scott (A Very Merry Christmas to all.)
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To: Joe Brower

In New Mexico we found a old lever action winchester 73 sticking out of a tree trunk with the stock and forend missing. Seems hundred years ago some pioneer, indian, cowboy etc leaned it against a sapling in the fork of the tree, left it for what ever reason and the tree grew up around it. Wood rotted off or was chewed off by deer and elk..... The rifle was about 6 ft up the tree trunk. It's on a friends ranch up near Lindrith NM....we left it per the ranchers request. I have seen these kind of lost and found rifles in two other places. One in a musem and one in Santa Fe NM in a store.


108 posted on 12/31/2004 12:12:50 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: USMCVet

Great story!!


109 posted on 12/31/2004 12:15:25 PM PST by bonfire
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To: Natural Law
Thanks for all the info -- Happy New Year!

Carolyn

110 posted on 12/31/2004 12:17:49 PM PST by CDHart
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To: Joe Brower
A friend of mine once found an M1 Garand along a canal down here in SW Florida

Gun + canal + South Florida ?

I hope there weren't any bodies associated with that weapon.

111 posted on 12/31/2004 12:49:34 PM PST by Freebird Forever (HAPPY GNU YEAR !!!)
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To: USMCVet

P-51
1944


112 posted on 12/31/2004 12:57:32 PM PST by Rakkasan1 (Justice of the Piece: Hope IS on the way...)
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To: Eagle Eye
Oh Eagle Eye -

Bet you were one heck of a "liberty risk" in your Marine Corps career, weren't you?

The M-2HB may sound better with those long, satisfying bursts but you and I both know that she would get really hot. That barrel would get steadily hotter until about round number 250, the flashes would get brighter and there'd be more concussion. Very soon after that, she starts cooking off and if you're not fast enough to break the belt or lift the feedcover, Bang! she pops a case out of battery or 'banana peels' the barrel.

That thick barrel really soaks up the heat and though it's supposed to be air cooled, it doesn't cool very quickly. The reason for the short bursts was to keep the barrels from eroding and from the major problems that come from from cookoffs. I used to have my students change barrels every 200 rounds/verify headspace and timing. The guns stay serviceable a lot longer that way!

Besides, a really expert gunner like yourself could nail the targets with short bursts... ;-)

Semper Fi!

113 posted on 12/31/2004 1:14:30 PM PST by USMCVet
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To: Freebird Forever
"I hope there weren't any bodies associated with that weapon."

I didn't hear of any, and in this area, you would have.

114 posted on 12/31/2004 2:00:32 PM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: USMCVet

P-40 Warhawk?


115 posted on 12/31/2004 3:24:00 PM PST by demlosers
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To: demlosers
I wish!

Nope; P-47D..

116 posted on 12/31/2004 3:45:11 PM PST by USMCVet
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To: jellybean
Thanks. Yeah, I tried to post the map quest map itself but it failed. I didn't think of linking the page. The river is in a wilderness area for sure. Ice fishing?
117 posted on 12/31/2004 8:22:03 PM PST by endthematrix ("Hey, it didn't hit a bone, Colonel. Do you think I can go back?" - U.S. Marine)
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To: endthematrix
Ice fishing?

How much would be left of the fish after a blast with a machine gun?

118 posted on 12/31/2004 8:38:46 PM PST by jellybean (Free Ol' Crusty!)
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To: jellybean
Heh-heh! That's the point...who cares! BOOM!
119 posted on 12/31/2004 8:42:50 PM PST by endthematrix ("Hey, it didn't hit a bone, Colonel. Do you think I can go back?" - U.S. Marine)
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To: NerdDad

Makes a good tag, don't you think?


120 posted on 01/01/2005 3:14:59 AM PST by somemoreequalthanothers (There are few problems in this world that cannot be solved from high ground with a belt fed weapon.)
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