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N.Y. Muslim group held at border
NY Daily News ^ | 12/30/2004 | LESLIE CASIMIR

Posted on 12/30/2004 2:08:16 PM PST by Marine Inspector

Carloads of Muslim New Yorkers, all U.S. citizens, were detained for hours by federal agents after they returned from an Islamic convention held in Toronto over the weekend. A Pace University student said she was asked by a border patrol officer at the Lewiston-Queenston Bridge crossing whether the wire in her bra was a weapon. A white Flushing resident said U.S. officials refused to tell her why she was being held for eight hours.

"It's just appalling," said Jean Tassi, 53. "If I didn't have on a head covering, I would have never been stopped."

A U.S. Customs and Border Protection official said agents acted on intelligence that conventioneers may have terrorists in their cars.

"We understand that most of these conferences are legitimate, but it is our duty, it is incumbent on us to verify the identity of everybody entering the U.S. - even citizens," said Kristi Clemens, a Washington spokeswoman. "I understand their frustration."

More than 30 people had attended "Reviving the Islamic Spirit" convention at the Skydome that was billed as a spiritually uplifting event.

"I refuse to be treated like this in my own country," said Miriam Soliman, 20, a Brooklyn-born finance major who said she was interrogated about her underwire bra.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: aliens; bcbp; bigbrother; billofrights; bordersecurity; cbp; fingerprints; islam; muslimamericans; religionofpeace; terrowar; trop; usconstitution; waronterror; whiningmuslims; wtcattacks
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To: Mr. Mojo
And I suspect that after the next major terror attack you'll likely agree.

Not likely.

I'm pretty confident we can stop the terrorist, without fingerprinting every American Citizen returning from abroad.

41 posted on 12/30/2004 2:57:36 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Marine Inspector

What is the solution then? Companies fingerprint new employees. Just went through this myself. I figure precautions of all kinds must be taken. I agree with previous posts that U.S. muslims are not yelling loudly about the inhumane beheadings. Yes, photos and fingerprinting are much worse than those pasky beheadings!


42 posted on 12/30/2004 2:58:56 PM PST by CAluvdubya (From the RED part of California)
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To: Ginifer
So, fingerprinting all Americans returning form abroad is OK. I mean, it's all in the name of security, right?

Do you have any problem with how the TSA operates?

43 posted on 12/30/2004 3:00:30 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Mr. Mojo

"And I suspect that after the next major terror attack you'll likely agree."

Since 911 all of the "next major terror attacks" have taken place outside of this country -

I think that shows that Bush is doing a pretty good job.


44 posted on 12/30/2004 3:00:45 PM PST by RS
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To: Marine Inspector
Who said anything about fingerprinting every American citizen?

As I mentioned, profiling for Muslims in the middle of a war against Muslim terrroists is perfectly logical. .....and probably necessary.

45 posted on 12/30/2004 3:01:45 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: RS
I think that shows that Bush is doing a pretty good job.

I think so too (and never said otherwise). And the President himself knows full well that another major terror attack on American soil is not a matter of if, but when.

46 posted on 12/30/2004 3:05:02 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Marine Inspector; B4Ranch; JackelopeBreeder; TexasCowboy; JohnHuang2; keri; ...
"What would you say if I told you these U.S. Citizens were forced to be fingerprinted and photographed before CBP let them go?"

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Shoot the inspectors?

47 posted on 12/30/2004 3:07:16 PM PST by Happy2BMe ("Islam fears democracy worse than anything-It castrates their stranglehold at the lowest level.")
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To: Marine Inspector

"What would you say if I told you these U.S. Citizens were forced to be fingerprinted and photographed before CBP let them go?"

I don't know - is that something you are likely to say ?
( the link didn't mention anything about that )


48 posted on 12/30/2004 3:08:11 PM PST by RS
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To: Mr. Mojo

"And the President himself knows full well that another major terror attack on American soil is not a matter of if, but when."

Not if we kill enough of them first - but then again, the Oklahoma City bombing was an American, so I suppose eventually somebody will do something...


49 posted on 12/30/2004 3:10:26 PM PST by RS
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To: pierrem15

Hmmm...nice point. I did not know that.


50 posted on 12/30/2004 3:12:08 PM PST by Pharmboy (Listen...you can still hear the old media sobbing.)
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To: Marine Inspector

What is it that frightens you about being fingerprinted, every bank that cashes a check where you dont have an account does it now.A thumbprint at least.

The only thing that bothers me about getting fingerprinted is getting the ink off my finger.


51 posted on 12/30/2004 3:13:15 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Revel; Velveeta; Dolphy; ...

ping


52 posted on 12/30/2004 3:13:36 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Marine Inspector
"So, fingerprinting all Americans returning form abroad is OK. I mean, it's all in the name of security, right?

Do you have any problem with how the TSA operates?"


Look here...I've read other posting and comments you have made and you are always baiting and antagonizing people with your comments. You pretend to be an all-knowing individual who preys on his "marine inspector" qualifications to intimidate people. Most of the comments I have read that you wrote are pro-immigration and less security. Make up your mind...what side of the fence are you on? Do you only post these articles for agreement to your viewpoint or do you actually care what opinions others have? I told you my views and if it doesn't meet with your criteria....so be it.
53 posted on 12/30/2004 3:15:16 PM PST by Ginifer
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To: Mr. Mojo

Describe a Muslim?


54 posted on 12/30/2004 3:15:16 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Marine Inspector

Coming back from an IslamoFascist love fest in Canada? Get out of my country you vermin. Go back to whatever hell holes you monsters crawled out of.


55 posted on 12/30/2004 3:15:55 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: CAluvdubya
Yes, photos and fingerprinting are much worse than those pasky beheadings!

Maybe we should fingerprint and photograph everyone before they fly, just for safeties sake.

56 posted on 12/30/2004 3:17:55 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: RS
the link didn't mention anything about that

That's why I posted this particular link. If you do a search, you will find out that each and every one of these Muslims, were US Citizens.

I wanted to see what people would post, without knowing this particular fact. It's very eye opening.

57 posted on 12/30/2004 3:20:37 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: FormerACLUmember
Go back to whatever hell holes you monsters crawled out of.

That hell hole would be America.

58 posted on 12/30/2004 3:22:22 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Marine Inspector

"If I didn't have on a head covering, I would have never been stopped."


I wear a head covering most of the time while out (W 04 cap)and never have a problem


59 posted on 12/30/2004 3:23:49 PM PST by Figment (Ich bin ein Jesuslander)
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To: Ginifer
Most of the comments I have read that you wrote are pro-immigration and less security.

You must not read many of my posts then.

60 posted on 12/30/2004 3:24:32 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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