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TERRI SCHINDLER SCHIAVO JANUARY 2005 Dailies: News Digest, Restating the Obvious & Thank Yous...
Free Republic & Various Sources ^ | December 30, 2004 | Floriduh Voter

Posted on 12/29/2004 7:16:22 AM PST by floriduh voter

The Terri Schindler Schiavo Daily Threads are created month to month as we watch local and national news regarding Terri and her family.

Since Terri's supporters are in every time zone, you may see something FIRST. Please share news with us that you don't see here already. Now, why would you want to do that? Terri's Daily Thread for September/October of 2004 was viewed over 15,000 times. Terri's November Daily Thread was viewed over 6,000 times. December's thread is over 3,000 views.

More and more good folks are finding out about Terri and that judicial tyranny would take her life, but for lots and lots of prayer and non-stop lobbying of relatives, friends, clergy, our leaders, the media, a passerby, a cashier - ANYONE who you feel comfortable chatting with.

Folks always want to know how can this be in America or on earth for that matter? Unfortunately, this is really happening to an innocent woman who just celebrated her 41st birthday. She's not the only one but she's the one with devoted parents and siblings who knows what's in Terri's heart. Terri has a strong will to live. That's apparent. It's been 14 years.

Besides, feeding tubes have been around practically since the Civil War. They are not high tech devices. Terri is "not hooked up to machines". Her feeding tube is the diameter of a piece of spaghetti.

Talkin' about Terri is the best way to lobby for her. It is a salespitch to save her life and subsequently, many lives. If you've never sold anything in your life, START NOW. START WITH TERRI.

See Terri's flash movies if you need more information. You can see for yourself that's she's interactive and follows the doctor's instructions.

Visit: http://www.terrisfight.org

NOTE: Terri's December Dailies are noted as a source above. There are lots of important links at the very top of that thread. If you missed Terri's Celebration of Life, you can click on it from there.


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To: hole_n_one; amdgmary; floriduh voter
You're an expert in screen caps, Hole_n_One ... can you tell us what the sign on the back wall says? Can you enlarge it so that it be read? Thanks ...
841 posted on 01/15/2005 6:24:56 PM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: hole_n_one
Meant to ping you to Post 830 ...
842 posted on 01/15/2005 6:26:47 PM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: hole_n_one

Make that Post 831 ...


843 posted on 01/15/2005 6:28:07 PM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: floriduh voter
FV

Do you know the name of the judge who sent the little boy (3 1/2) to his biological parents (not married) yesterday? It happened there in Florida and was utterly traumatic for the little boy who had never seen his biological mother who lives in Illinois.

His adoptive parents (the only parents he's ever known) were completely devastated.

Could it have been Greer, Baird or Demer?

844 posted on 01/15/2005 6:30:31 PM PST by AnimalLover ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?))
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Prison Talk Online

MrCoffee
But there is one good thing to say about Jeb Bush. Jeb Bush is at least working to save the life of Terri Shiavo, who's guardian wants her dead. Michael Schiavo's method of execution is: death by starvation and dehydration, carried over a period of 7 to 15 days until death. We may not all back Jeb Bush's plan as far as the death penalty goes, but I can sure side with him when it comes to protecting the disabled.

MrCoffee




Kyla
Mr Coffee
I am glad that Jeb has some compassion in his heart for Terri. As for the death penalty issues, I have to say I disagree with him totally, though I must admit, he isnt as unkind as alot of states, such as Texas.
Still..... he can put a stop or halt on all executions. Maybe the fight for Terri will put compassion in his heart for all the men on Florida Death row.




MrCoffee
You can always hope that he will side with life, Kyla. Both for Terri, and for the convicts on death row. I have a great deal of respect for you, Kyla, because you are not only against the death penalty, but also against involuntary euthanasia and assisted suicide. You have shown a great deal of support for the rights of those who are not able to speak for themselves. I will listen to your opinions on this board before considering others because of where you stand on these issues.

I think it would be good if Bush can win an appeal for Terri. If so, then perhaps Jeb can take another look at the criminal justice system in his state in regards to the death penalty. There is always a chance for a change of heart. But that can only happen if human rights are supported for everyone, including Terri.

MrCoffee




softheart
You know the Shiavo case reminds me of something that just happened. A young girl 15 years lost control of her car and it crashed. The said she was brain dead and her family had decided to pull the plug on her. It was delayed for a few days, because her Dad was in a Federal prison and they were working at getting permisson for him to see his daughter one last time. Well Thank God they waited, because when her Dad got there, she opened her eyes. This had never happened, they are saying it is going to be a long recovery for her, but she is alive.

We never know when a miracle is around the corner. We have no right to play God and that is what Michael is trying to do. I could go on and on about Terri because the whole thing really makes me angry beyond belief.

If Gov Bush does something about her case and stands up for her. I only hope he realizes that all life is sacred. maybe helping her will put some compassion in his heart if possible.

I only hope that the ones that have a voice will continue and speak up for her and all the others that don't have a voice.

Maybe one day there will be no more DP and people like Terri's voice will be heard for all to hear.

Ok I am kicking my soap box out from under myself.
softie




MrCoffee
You know the Shiavo case reminds me of something that just happened. A young girl 15 years lost control of her car and it crashed. The said she was brain dead and her family had decided to pull the plug on her. It was delayed for a few days, because her Dad was in a Federal prison and they were working at getting permisson for him to see his daughter one last time. Well Thank God they waited, because when her Dad got there, she opened her eyes. This had never happened, they are saying it is going to be a long recovery for her, but she is alive.

Indeed, all life is sacred. There is an advantage to a LWOP sentence. If new evidence ever springs up, then the convicted person will have a chance to prove is inocence (if indeed he is inocent). As you say, softheart, the death penalty is final and it can never be reversed. It has to be completely fool-proof. Thank you for bringing that up, softheart.

MrCoffee




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845 posted on 01/15/2005 6:40:00 PM PST by Chocolate Rose
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To: floriduh voter

Used Coffin For Sale - only 400 years old


846 posted on 01/15/2005 6:50:50 PM PST by candeee
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I can't remember HINO's brothers names. I believe its Scott, Brian and William (Joan's husband? )? Is there another brother and do they call William, richard?


847 posted on 01/15/2005 6:56:59 PM PST by Chocolate Rose
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Crosstalk 1-11-2005
Vickie Schaefer & Matthew Davis

01/11/2005 Vic Eliason: Terri Schiavo Update RealAudiohttp://67.36.84.226/crosstalk/ct050111.ram Windows Mediahttp://67.36.84.226/crosstalk/ct050111.asf
Guest: Vicki Schaffer & Matthew Davis
Vicki Schaffer is with the West Virginia chapter of a civil rights organization known as ADAPT. She opened the program discussing a candlelight vigil that's being held for Terri Schiavo this Thursday. Through seeing Terri smile, she realized that Terri is not in the condition portrayed by much of the secular media.
Matthew Davis is an attorney with the Gibbs Law Firm of Seminole, Florida, the firm now representing Terri Schiavo. While Terri's Law has sustained her life, the Florida Supreme Court has struck down this law and it's being appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Interestingly, Terri has never had a lawyer. Davis feels that this voids the entire order that gave Michael Schiavo the right to remove Terri's feeding tube.

Tapes Available
http://www.vcyamerica.org/crosstalk/programs.cfm


848 posted on 01/15/2005 7:24:05 PM PST by Chocolate Rose
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To: floriduh voter

I was just thinking that myself when I tried to read that sign. Sick , was the first word that came to mind.!!!!How sad. It sure looks like Coffin for sale to me...


849 posted on 01/15/2005 10:01:18 PM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: floriduh voter
Gingrich has a typically innovative strategy. The Constitution emphasizes that federal judges shall serve with ''good behavior.'' On the ''one nation under God'' phrase, Congress and the president approve legislation insisting on the legitimacy of ''our Creator'' in defining American rights. If the Supreme Court rules the phrase unconstitutional, Congress finds ''such judges who consistently ignore the Constitution'' fall short of the ''good behavior'' clause, which would bring the 9th Circuit judges and erring justices up on grounds of impeachment. And if that seems too difficult, the legislative and executive branches could ''simply eliminate judgeships that consistently violate the Constitution . . . Thus much of the 9th Circuit could find themselves without a court to serve on.''

Is it foolish for Newt to publish his book now? No. The ideas are so bold and imaginative that no opponent can utilize them without enduring a charge of plagiarism. For now, let's take Chapter 4, ''Bringing the Courts Back Under the Constitution,'' which I consider to be awesome in its simplicity but brilliant in concept. I am intrigued with it because it is an attempt to win to his side social conservatives -- those who have been generally ignored by him in earlier pronouncements. In his House service, Gingrich voted pro-life but was never a tiger on moral issues -- his libertarianism was too dominant. Not so for 2008.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1321553/posts

After reading all of the above I decided to send Newt a plea for Terri. Who knows, it would score him a lot of points with conservatives if he was able to do something!

http://newt.org/index.php?submenu=contactus&src=forms&id=Contact%20Us

850 posted on 01/16/2005 12:57:31 AM PST by AnimalLover ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?))
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To: AnimalLover

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1321553/posts



http://newt.org/index.php?submenu=contactus&src=forms&id=Contact%20Us


851 posted on 01/16/2005 12:59:09 AM PST by AnimalLover ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?))
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To: Pegita; floriduh voter; Chocolate Rose
The sign says "Used Coffin for Sale. Only 400 Years Old. Going Real Cheap. Ask for Drac (dracula)" The CNA Diane also has devil horns on her cow custume. This is the CNA that Michael Schiavo hired to look after Terri while Michael was romancing another woman.


852 posted on 01/16/2005 3:40:45 AM PST by amdgmary
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To: Pegita; floriduh voter; Chocolate Rose; windchime
The photo of Terri's former CNA was cropped and enlarged from the original photo. Her cow custom has devils horns. This CNA (named Diane) testified at the trial in 2000 that Terri's family never visited her. This woman lied for Michael and Felos.


853 posted on 01/16/2005 3:51:50 AM PST by amdgmary
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To: All; floriduh voter; Republic; Chocolate Rose; Pegita; Ohioan from Florida; pc93; windchime; ...
The woman posing next to Terri at a shopping mall is one of Michael's former girlfriends (this isn't Michael's common-law wife Jodi Centonzi). The photo was taken sometime in 1993.


854 posted on 01/16/2005 4:04:59 AM PST by amdgmary
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To: amdgmary

"Her cow custom has devils horns."

Maybe she's as wrong about the gender of the bovine as she was her testimony.


855 posted on 01/16/2005 6:24:37 AM PST by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got 4 years (8!) to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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Supreme Court to rule on Schiavo
Few experts expect Gov. Bush to win a federal appeal to keep a brain-damaged woman alive.

By Maya Bell | Miami Bureau
Posted January 16, 2005

The long legal saga pitting the parents of a severely brain-damaged woman against her husband may be winding down -- if, as widely expected, the U.S. Supreme Court refuses this week to consider an appeal filed by Gov. Jeb Bush.

It is risky to predict what the high court will decide Friday, when the justices are scheduled to accept or reject the governor's appeal in the case involving Terri Schiavo. No one knows what they will do, only that they could release some decision the following Monday.

But a number of legal scholars say there is little chance the high court will choose to review the Florida Supreme Court decision that struck down what is known as "Terri's Law" for encroaching on the role reserved for judges.

That's because, observers say, there are no federal issues at stake, giving the state Supreme Court the last word on the constitutionality of the statute that empowered the governor to order the reinsertion of the feeding tube sustaining Terri Schiavo six days after it was removed by court order last October.

Lawyers for the governor disagree. In their petition to the U.S. Supreme Court, they argue the governor's federal due-process rights were violated when he was barred from retrying the evidence that prompted a Pinellas County Circuit judge to rule that Terri Schiavo would chose death over her incapacitated state.

Should the high court fail to reinstate Terri's Law, they warn the case will have ominous implications for people with profound disabilities.

The arguments, however, convinced few professors interviewed at four Florida law schools.

"To put it crudely, it's none of the U.S. Supreme Court's business," said Bruce Winick, of the University of Miami School of Law. "The Florida Supreme Court is the final arbiter of what the Florida Constitution means and they have spoken."

Michael Allen, a professor at Stetson University College of Law, which is sponsoring a seminar on the Schiavo case Jan. 28, said he'd be shocked if the high court accepted the appeal.

"There is close to a zero chance," Allen said. "I think the court will see the governor's argument as smoke and mirrors."

If the professors are correct, the only thing stopping Michael Schiavo from halting the twice-a-day tube feedings that have kept his wife alive for nearly 15 years is another round of motions his in-laws are pursuing in state courts. Until they are resolved, a judge has set aside Michael Schiavo's authority to carry out what he says were his wife's wishes.

But even the new lawyers representing Bob and Mary Schindler concede they are waging an uphill battle to keep one of the most litigated right-to-die cases in history -- and Terri Schiavo -- alive.

"It's a long shot," said Barbara Weller, a member of the Gibbs Law Firm in Pinellas County, which assumed the case late last year. "If we get a miracle from God, we'll win, and that's what we're all praying for."

A one-time insurance clerk, Terri Schiavo collapsed from cardiac arrest in February 1990, enduring precious minutes without oxygen. Now 41, she lives in a Pinellas County nursing home, in what the courts have ruled is a persistent vegetative state that has left her with only the most primitive of brain-stem functions.

She can breathe on her own, but, according to court rulings, her cerebral cortex has all but disappeared, rendering the movements and noises she makes involuntary and meaningless.

Her parents, however, vehemently disagree. They insist their daughter is aware, purposefully interacts with them and could improve with proper rehabilitation.

They are asking Pinellas Circuit Judge George Greer to set aside his prior ruling authorizing Michael Schiavo to discontinue his wife's assisted feedings. Although Terri Schiavo never wrote down her wishes in the event she became incapacitated, Greer agreed with Michael Schiavo that she made them clear in casual conversation: She never wanted to be kept alive artificially.

Now, echoing the governor's arguments, the Schindlers say their daughter's due process rights were violated because she never was represented by her own attorney, and Greer was allowed to act as both her judge and guardian. A hearing on their motion, which Michael Schiavo's attorney, George Felos, says raises issues already settled, is scheduled for Jan. 28.

The Schindlers also are asking the 2nd District Court of Appeal in Lakeland to reconsider its Dec. 29 decision rejecting their argument that their daughter, a devout Catholic, would have changed her end-of-life wishes had she heard a recent papal declaration. Last year, Pope John Paul II said withholding hydration and sustenance from a person in a vegetative state is a sin.

Meanwhile, Felos, frustrated with what he regards as endless court proceedings that revisit issues already settled, has stopped filing responses to the Schindlers' arguments.

It's the same strategy he employed at the U.S. Supreme Court. Calling the governor's appeal "frivolous," he waived Michael Schiavo's right to respond.

By next Monday, he should learn if that was a miscalculation.

Maya Bell can be reached at mbell@orlandosentinel.com or 305-810-5003.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/state/orl-locschiavo16011605jan16,0,2511161.story?coll=orl-home-headlines


856 posted on 01/16/2005 7:06:58 AM PST by Chocolate Rose
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To: Pegita

search for the HTML Sandbox thread and do a post to someone in there. You might get a referral that way. Pretty insidious, wouldn't you say?


857 posted on 01/16/2005 7:33:40 AM PST by floriduh voter (Visit www.terrisfight.org SEE TERRI'S VIDEOS AWARE AND ALERT)
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To: Chocolate Rose; Ohioan from Florida; Republic
The Orlando Sentinel or the Orlando Satan-alls as we called the form there, HATE JEB BUSH. They will therefore, HATE TERRI since he's acting as her proxy.

I DON'T LET THESE LIBERAL, JEB BUSH HATING NEWSPAPERS GET ME DOWN. They are trying only to SWAY PUBLIC OPINION AGAINST TERRI as a backup should Jeb get to have a fair trial and due process. BEWARE OF THE MIAMI HERALD AND THE ST. PETE TIMES. Their coverage is biased too. UNBELIEVABLY BIASED - they won't print any letters to the editor from Terri supporters.

858 posted on 01/16/2005 7:38:34 AM PST by floriduh voter (Visit www.terrisfight.org SEE TERRI'S VIDEOS AWARE AND ALERT)
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To: Scoop 1

It's in God's hands now. He may not cross paths with Cruzan in the next realm. But, what do I know? Just my thoughts.


860 posted on 01/16/2005 8:26:26 AM PST by floriduh voter (Visit www.terrisfight.org SEE TERRI'S VIDEOS AWARE AND ALERT)
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