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Soros Alert: Is the CIA on Our Side? (My Title)
Defense & Foreign Affairs Daily | June 30, 2003 | Gregory R. Copley

Posted on 12/28/2004 3:36:43 PM PST by Alexander Nevsky

Special Report: US State Dept., CIA War Against Pentagon Breaks Into the Open With Profound Impact on Strategic Policy

Analysis. By Gregory R. Copley, Editor.

Senior bureaucrats in the US Department of State and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) have begun bringing their "war" with the Department of Defense into the open, strenuously advising foreign leaders to avoid meetings with key US Defense officials. This was particularly evident during the visit of some 12 African leaders to Washington, DC, for the June 24-26, 2003, Corporate Council on Africa (CCA) conclave.

At least one visiting African head-of-state was told by a US senior diplomat as well as by senior CIA officials not to take up an opportunity to meet with US Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz because publicity about such a meeting would hurt the President in his home country, given that DepSec Wolfowitz was perceived as the man who started the war against Iraq.

The resentment of the Pentagon leadership by the State and CIA career officials -- supported at this time by US Secretary of State Colin Powell -- stems from the fact that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, DepSec Wolfowitz and US Vice-President Richard Cheney (a former Defense Secretary) were now the drivers of US strategic policy. Many State and CIA officials retain their loyalty to the former US Administration of Democratic Pres. William Clinton and some still owed their positions to the even earlier Administration of (Democrat) Pres. Jimmy Carter. As a result, these officials have been attempting at all levels to block what they perceive to be incentives from the Pentagon or the White House of Pres. George W. Bush.

But the conflict between the Defense Department and White House on the one hand, and the State Department and CIA on the other, however, has more institutional or sociological roots. The exceptionally liberal culture entrenched in State and the CIA, and the fact that career officials there regarded elected officials as "short-timers" and not representative of the continuity of US policy (which the career foreign service officers feel is their function), meant that any determined effort by an elected Administration to impose its stamp on foreign and strategic policy would be resisted, regardless of whether the elected Government was Democratic or Republican. The former Reagan and current George W. Bush administrations had proven particularly determined to impose their electoral mandate. State and CIA obfuscation was therefore almost guaranteed.

At the Pentagon, the high rotation of uniformed officers and political appointees through key posts meant that institutional resistance to the elected leadership was less likely, and the strong tradition of civilian control of the military under an elected, civilian commander-in-chief also militated against institutional resistance to the White House and Congress.

Many foreign officials were, however, now as a result getting mixed signals from the US, with Embassy and CIA officials on the ground strenuously denigrating -- or obfuscating -- the Bush Administration policies emanating from either the White House or the Pentagon. A number of African leaders were known to be keen to discuss with the US Defense Department key initiatives regarding peacekeeping, force modernization and the prospect for US force deployments into Africa as a result of new initiatives to change US military basing worldwide.

One African official commented on June 27, 2003, to GIS/Defense & Foreign Affairs Daily : "We don't know what is going on in Washington any more. Who do we believe? The US Ambassador? The State Department officials in Washington? The CIA? The Pentagon?" He added: "Some of the State Department officials we speak to seem to have more against President Bush than they do against Osama bin Laden."

The strenuous differences between State and Defense -- which had been evident since the Bush Administration took office -- began to appear visibly when DepSec Wolfowitz and other Defense officials began, during the first half of 2003, discussing the movement of long-standing US force deployments in Germany and North Korea (DPRK). Secretary of State Colin Powell and at least one US ambassador in the Balkans directly contradicted Department of Defense officials when they said that US forces in Germany would be redeployed. Defense officials subsequently took the offensive to reiterate that such moves would, in fact, take place.

Defense & Foreign Affairs Daily, on May 16, 2003, in a report entitled "US State and Defense Departments at Odds Over Redeployment of US Forces in Europe," noted:

"Senior Washington sources on May 15, 2003, confirmed that there was now a growing confrontation between US Defense Department officials and State Department officials -- including Secretary of State Colin Powell -- over US policy toward Europe, and particularly over the matter of the redeployment of US forces based in Germany. The Defense Department, and Congress, have been working for almost a year toward a withdrawal of substantial portions of US forces in Germany, and redeploying significant portions of US European Command (USEUCOM) to bases in the Balkans. As well, Defense has been moving toward creating a separate US Africa Command (USAFCOM) which would take over the African responsibilities of USEUCOM."

In an analytical report, on June 13, 2003, entitled "US Interests in the Balkans: Balancing Perceptions, Realities and Strategic Need," GIS/Defense & Foreign Affairs Daily noted:

"Despite statements by the US State Department, the US will do what the Defense Department is advocating. It will move most of the US forces out of Germany. Most, indeed, are already deployed out of the region, in Iraq, for example. Those forces which return to Europe will start to utilize basing in South-Eastern Europe. Romania and Bulgaria have been mentioned as most likely to be the alliance partners of choice, because they have access to an area long denied to the US: the Black Sea. Consideration has been given to Serbia-Montenegro, as well, because history has determined that Belgrade, for example, remains a critical cross-road of trade in the region and its influence on the Danube artery is vital. Albania, too, must be considered by the US, because of its access to the Mediterranean."

The debate moved into the open following publication by GIS/Defense & Foreign Affairs Daily on May 2, 2003 of a report entitled "The New US and the New Europe: The US Prepares Move of German-based Forces to Serbia-Montenegro, Bulgaria and Romania." But the reaction to this merely highlighted the longstanding ideological differences between the State Department and CIA career officials and the Defense Dept. leadership, and brought into focus the fact that the Bush White House was scarcely aware of some of the activities being undertaken in the name of the United States by some US diplomats. This included support for Iranian-sponsored radical Islamists in Bosnia-Herzegovina and Serbia, for example, at a time when Iran was preparing, with al-Qaida networks, to activate new terrorist and radical activities against the US and Western interests, in large part due to the pressure which the US-led "war on terror" was putting on Iran and al-Qaida.

Several leaders in the Balkans and Africa have told GIS in June 2003 that they now felt that if they showed any support for the US Bush Administration they would, in effect, be "punished" by the US missions with which they had to deal in their home countries. One Balkan official said: "It's as though they [the US embassy officials] are waiting for the Clinton Administration to come back. And these [embassy] people seem to be very friendly with the people from the [leftist US-based, Hungarian-born businessman] George Soros NGOs. So when we see George Soros attacking Pres. Bush, it becomes very confusing. Is Washington aware of what is going on, here on the ground?"

Washington sources also told GIS that the State Dept., and Secretary of State Powell, were determined to thwart any movement of US forces worldwide, or to revisit and correct the history "written during the Clinton Administration". One source said that any attempt to demonstrate that the Clinton Administration had manipulated intelligence in the Balkans, for example, in order to attack Yugoslavia would open some US officials up to legal attacks. In this regard, the US broadcasting network Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty (RFE/RL) also perpetuated what officials in the Balkans called "the Clinton/Soros line", in attempting to legitimize the actions of the former Clinton Administration.

Significantly, testifying at the war crimes trial of former Yugoslav Pres. Slobodan Milosevic at the International Criminal Tribunal on Yugoslavia (ICTY) in The Hague on June 25, 2003, former Clinton Administration US Ambassador to Croatia Peter Galbraith said that the 1991-95 rebellion by members of Croatia's Serbian minority was dependent on Serbian support and that then-Pres. Milosevic made all the crucial decisions regarding the rebellion. Former Ambassador Galbraith, who actively participated -- with apparent White House support from Pres. Clinton -- in providing military assistance to the Croatians in their ethnic cleansing campaigns, added that the Croatian assault on the rebels in 1995 could have been avoided had the Serbs accepted what was known as the "Z-4 peace plan". The former ambassador argued that the Croatian Army did not carry out ethnic cleansing of rebel-held territory because most of the Serbian population had already fled before the Croatian forces arrived. Galbraith described the late Croatian Pres. Franjo Tudjman as "a nationalist", former Croatian Serb leader Milan Babic as "a coward", and his successor Milan Martic as "a man of limited intelligence".

One Bosnian source told GIS: "We see with Galbraith and others an attempt to reinforce what the Clinton Administration did to start and perpetuate fighting in this region during the 1990s. Even the current Government of Croatia recognizes that Tudjman and his Ustase (nazis) fighters were butchers, and that the US illegally put a number of retired US generals and specialists into the field with the Croatian forces to assist in the ethnic cleansing of Serbs and others from Croatia. Now we see a new era in US politics, and the Pentagon and White House wants to rebuild relations in the Balkans, but the State Department is trying in many respects to frustrate this."

It seemed clear that, in both Africa and the Balkans, key officials in the State Dept. and CIA were determined to minimize the impact of planned strategic changes spearheaded by the Department of Defense, and particularly to blunt the influence of Deputy Defense Secretary Wolfowitz.

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Gregory R. Copley, "Special Report: US State Dept., CIA War Against Pentagon Breaks Into the Open With Profound Impact on Strategic Policy," Defense & Foreign Affairs Daily, 30 June 2003, Vol. XXI, No. 102


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 200306; africa; africom; balkans; bosnia; cia; civilwar; conspiracy; dod; dos; geopolitics; germany; impeachedx42; intelligence; iran; nkorea; powell; redeployment; rumormill; soros; usafom
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To: SoDak

It's a beginning.


41 posted on 12/28/2004 5:52:00 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (I resolve for 2005, to live my life as I would be if I had kept all my previous resolutions.)
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To: blam; Ernest_at_the_Beach; FairOpinion; ValerieUSA
personally, I have some doubts about this, but... Ping!
42 posted on 12/28/2004 5:54:37 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("The odds are very much against inclusion, and non-inclusion is unlikely to be meaningful." -seamole)
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To: Alexander Nevsky
The agent men see the judges and legislators taking their piece out of the constitution...so why shouldn't they....

imo

43 posted on 12/28/2004 6:30:26 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Alexander Nevsky; SunkenCiv

Thanks for posting this and SC, thanks for the ping. I would have hated to miss this.

I think this is more true, than we wish it to be.

Goss & Condi pretty much should fire everyone and hire a few good ones back.

It's time to get a CIA and State Dept, which work for the US, not against it.

This is consistent with the occasional snippets we hear, which get leaked from the CIA and State Department, with the purpose of embarrassing and even harming the US and they were willing to hurt the entire country, to keep Bush from getting re-elected. This kind of treasonous behavior used to get the death penalty.


44 posted on 12/28/2004 7:10:30 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: jb6; MarMema; eluminate; Destro

Not about Ukraine, but I thought you'd be interested in this.


45 posted on 12/28/2004 7:11:59 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Alexander Nevsky

bttt


46 posted on 12/28/2004 7:12:15 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Alexander Nevsky

I hope Bush starts cleaning out the FBI, CIA, State, EPA, etc. etc. etc. No more back-stabbing bureaucrats. Oh, he could abolish the Dept of Education instead of funding it to Ted Kennedy levels.


47 posted on 12/28/2004 7:14:06 PM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Breaded and deep fried in peanut oil.)
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To: FairOpinion

Yeah... of course, part of this may be right-hand-left-hand problems. Could also be part of disinfo. But at the very least the State Dep't has a lot of partisan rot in it. We all recall the resignations and blistering libels coming from old Carter and Clinton appointees.


48 posted on 12/28/2004 7:36:42 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("The odds are very much against inclusion, and non-inclusion is unlikely to be meaningful." -seamole)
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To: pbrown

Yes, it's treason. Active CIA Agents, acting *with* CIA authority, leaked intel assessments in an attempt to influence the 2004 Presidential election (i.e. treason).

Imperial Hubris: Why the West is Losing the War on Terror
by Michael Scheuer

Imperial Hubris: Why the West is Losing the War on Terror

49 posted on 12/28/2004 10:24:49 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: lancer
An eighteen month old article with no link? Hmmm..?

I stumbled upon this article just recently while conducting some unrelated research in the Nexis database. Anyone with access to a public library can retrieve it as well.

Sorry it's 18 months old, but I can't help that. That's when the article was published. Needless to say, the information it contains has not gone stale in the meantime.

As for the lack of a link, well, that too is beyond my control. As far as I can tell, the Defense & Foreign Affairs Daily does not post its articles on the Web. However, if you want confirmation that this article really exists -- and if you don't have time to visit the public library to get it yourself via Nexis -- why don't you send a Freepmail to Darko and ask him to retrieve a copy of it for you? Judging by certain of Darko's past posts, he appears to have access to Defense & Foreign Affairs Daily.

50 posted on 12/29/2004 4:15:15 AM PST by Alexander Nevsky
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To: SunkenCiv
personally, I have some doubts about this, but... Ping!

Dear SunkenCiv:

Thanks for the ping. As I pointed out to lancer in the above post, the authenticity of this article can be verified at any public library -- though unfortunately not on the World Wide Web.

51 posted on 12/29/2004 4:28:15 AM PST by Alexander Nevsky
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To: Alexander Nevsky

It wasn't the age of the article, but the lack of a link that made me suspicious.

Thanks for the Darko tip. I will freepmail him.

Appreciate your response.


52 posted on 12/29/2004 5:14:26 PM PST by lancer (If you are not with us, you are against us!)
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To: lancer
…and to all FReepers and lurkers who may share an interest in the above-posted article written by Gregory R. Copley in the June 30, 2003 issue of GIS/Defense & Foreign Affairs Daily and titled, "Special Report: US State Dept., CIA War Against Pentagon Breaks Into the Open With Profound Impact on Strategic Policy" :

Dear Friends:

In my view, this is an extremely important article which needs to be read and discussed by anyone concerned about the machinations of George Soros.

Unfortunately, GIS/Defense & Foreign Affairs Daily does not publish its articles on the Web. This thread on FreeRepublic is the only place on the Internet where people can view the entire text of this article.

For that reason, I feel obliged to address questions about the article's veracity which have been raised first by lancer on this thread and subsequently — on a different thread — by Calpernia.

I know the article is real because I retrieved it myself from the Nexis database. However, as Calpernia chides me, "We do not know you to trust you as a source."

Very well. So I must find a way to prove the article's authenticity to everyone's satisfaction here at FR. I confess that I'm not 100 percent sure how to accomplish that, but I will find a way.

In the meantime, just to let everyone know that I'm on the case, I have reproduced below — with lancer's kind permission — copies of our recent freepmail correspondence. Please stay tuned for further postings on this matter.

FRegards,
Alexander Nevsky

53 posted on 04/10/2005 6:20:15 AM PDT by Alexander Nevsky
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To: lancer
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On 12/28/2004 5:18:32 PM PST, lancer wrote:

An eighteen month old article with no link? Hmmm..?

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On 12/29/2004 4:15:15 AM PST, I wrote:

[snip]

As far as I can tell, the Defense & Foreign Affairs Daily does not post its articles on the Web. However, if you want confirmation that this article really exists -- and if you don't have time to visit the public library to get it yourself via Nexis -- why don't you send a Freepmail to Darko and ask him to retrieve a copy of it for you? Judging by certain of Darko's past posts, he appears to have access to Defense & Foreign Affairs Daily.

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On 12/29/2004 5:14:26 PM PST, lancer wrote:

It wasn't the age of the article, but the lack of a link that made me suspicious.

Thanks for the Darko tip. I will freepmail him.

Appreciate your response.

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Verification of article
From Alexander Nevsky | 03/23/2005 8:33:16 AM PST replied

Lancer, back in December, you raised some questions about the authenticity of an article I had posted to FreeRepublic. The article came originally from a print journal called GIS/Defense & Foreign Affairs Daily, which unfortunately does not publish its articles on the Web. I had obtained a copy of the article from the Nexis database. At the time, I suggested that you freepmail Darko, who has posted articles from the same publication, and ask him to retrieve it for you. You responded, "Thanks for the Darko tip. I will freepmail him."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1309815/posts?page=52#52

Lancer, I am just wondering if you ever followed through on this and managed to authenticate the article. The reason I ask is that another Freeper named Calpurnia [proper spelling: Calpernia] has now raised the same question about the same article, but I am at a loss to know how to satisfy her, since she does not appear willing to take any of the steps I suggested for authenticating it. Can you please tell me how things went with you and Darko?

FRegards,
Alexander Nevsky

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Re: Verification of article
From lancer| 03/23/2005 6:58:36 PM PST new

I took you at your word and didn't contact Darko. Sorry I can't help.

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Re: Verification of article
From lancer| 03/23/2005 7:04:31 PM PST new

Yikes, Nevsky! I just double-checked my sent mail and found this! I guess the memory is going. Point is that Darko never responded. (I just double-checked that, too!) Sorry for the confusion.

Re: Al-Qaida Leader Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's Bosnian Links Emerging
To Darko | 12/29/2004 5:25:33 PM PST sent

Darko,

Defense & Foreign Affairs Daily | June 30, 2003 | Gregory R. Copley

This article was posted yesterday. Any chance you have access to the original and can confirm it for me (or better yet, send a link?) Thanks, lancer

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Re: Verification of article
To lancer | 03/27/2005 10:42:50 AM PST sent

Okay, thanks. I appreciate your help.

FRegards

54 posted on 04/10/2005 7:05:41 AM PDT by Alexander Nevsky
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