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Major Climate Change Occurred 5,200 Years ago: Evidence Suggests That History May Repeat Itself
Ohio State University ^ | 12-24-2004 | Ohio State University

Posted on 12/28/2004 3:08:55 PM PST by blam

Source: Ohio State University

Date: 2004-12-24

Major Climate Change Occurred 5,200 Years Ago: Evidence Suggests That History Could Repeat Itself

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Glaciologist Lonnie Thompson worries that he may have found clues that show history repeating itself, and if he is right, the result could have important implications to modern society.

Thompson has spent his career trekking to the far corners of the world to find remote ice fields and then bring back cores drilled from their centers. Within those cores are the records of ancient climate from across the globe.

From the mountains of data drawn by analyzing countless ice cores, and a meticulous review of sometimes obscure historic records, Thompson and his research team at Ohio State University are convinced that the global climate has changed dramatically.

But more importantly, they believe it has happened at least once before, and the results were nearly catastrophic to emerging cultures at the time. He outlined his interpretations and fears today at the annual meeting of the American Geophysical Union in San Francisco.

A professor of geological sciences at Ohio State and a researcher with the Byrd Polar Research Center, Thompson points to markers in numerous records suggesting that the climate was altered suddenly some 5,200 years ago with severe impacts.

He points to perfectly preserved plants he discovered that recently emerged from the Quelccaya ice cap in the Peruvian Andes as that glacier retreats. This monstrous glacier, some 551 feet (168 meters) deep, has shown an exponentially increasing rate of retreat since his first observations in 1963.

The plants were carbon-dated to determine their age and tests indicated they had been buried by the ice for perhaps 5,200 years. That suggests that somehow, the climate had shifted suddenly and severely to capture the plants and preserve them until now.

In 1991, hikers found the preserved body of a man trapped in an Alpine glacier and freed as it retreated. Later tests showed that the human – dubbed Oetzi – became trapped and died around 5,200 years ago.

Thompson points to a study of tree rings from Ireland and England that span a period of 7,000 years. The point in that record when the tree rings were narrowest – suggesting the driest period experienced by the trees – was approximately 5,200 years ago.

He points to ice core records showing the ratio of two oxygen isotopes retrieved from the ice fields atop Africa’s Mount Kilimanjaro. A proxy for atmospheric temperature at the time snow fell, the records are at their lowest 5,200 years before now.

He lists the shift by the Sahara Desert from a habitable region to a barren desert; major changes in plant pollen uncovered from lakebed cores in South America, and the record lowest levels of methane retrieved from ice cores from Greenland and Antarctica and all occurred at the same time – 5,200 years ago.

“Something happened back at this time and it was monumental,” Thompson said. “But it didn’t seem monumental to humans then because there were only approximately 250 million people occupying the planet, compared to the 6.4 billion we now have.

“The evidence clearly points back to this point in history and to some event that occurred. It also points to similar changes occurring in today’s climate as well,” he said.

“To me, these are things we really need to be concerned about.” The impact of a climate change of that magnitude on a modern world would be tremendous, he said. Seventy percent of the population lives in the world’s tropics and major climate changes would directly impact most of them.

Thompson believes that the 5,200-year old event may have been caused by a dramatic fluctuation in solar energy reaching the earth. Scientists know that a historic global cooling called the Little Ice Age, from 1450 to 1850 A.D., coincided with two periods of decreased solar activity.

Evidence shows that around 5,200 years ago, solar output first dropped precipitously and then surged over a short period. It is this huge solar energy oscillation that Thompson believes may have triggered the climate change he sees in all those records.

“The climate system is remarkably sensitive to natural variability,” he said. “It’s likely that it is equally sensitive to effects brought on by human activity, changes like increased greenhouse gases, altered land-use policies and fossil-fuel dependence.

“Any prudent person would agree that we don’t yet understand the complexities with the climate system and, since we don’t, we should be extremely cautious in how much we ‘tweak’ the system,” he said.

“The evidence is clear that a major climate change is underway.”

Editor's Note: The original news release can be found here.


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To: blam
Later tests showed that the human – dubbed Oetzi – became trapped and died around 5,200 years ago.

The latest tests on Oetzi show that he died from being shot with an arrow. The flint arrowhead was still in the body. How they missed this the first time around is an appaling example of just plain carelessness.

In any event this guy was not "trapped by a sudden climate change".

OTOH, he may have given as much as he got--he had a flint knife with the blood of four other people on it...

61 posted on 12/28/2004 5:47:17 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: get'emall
It's possible...!!

Hehehe.....

62 posted on 12/28/2004 6:27:01 PM PST by Osage Orange (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: lectricpup
"show me a 5200 yr old tree!"

Come visit me and I'll show you a 7,000 year old underwater cypress forest in Santa Rosa Sound, Florida.

63 posted on 12/28/2004 7:07:55 PM PST by blam
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To: raybbr; Lokibob; Battle Axe; okie01; Publius

The 3195BC date fits perfectly. I don't know what I was thinking. Thanks.


64 posted on 12/28/2004 7:09:45 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
It's not often one gets to correct the recognized expert. We all thank you for giving us the opportunity...
65 posted on 12/28/2004 7:12:55 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: blam
You might say it's our way of proving that we weren't sleeping through the lecture, prof.
66 posted on 12/28/2004 7:13:37 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: muawiyah
"German researchers have proposed that if we could heat up the Sahara by propagating hardy broadleafed plant species, we might well be able to pull the monsoons back in and create a new pluvial period."

I don't think that is to far fetched.

67 posted on 12/28/2004 7:17:40 PM PST by blam
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To: RadioAstronomer
Excellent.

"Proceedings of the International Symposium on the Role of the Cryosphere in Global Change"

68 posted on 12/28/2004 7:20:05 PM PST by blam
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To: xcamel
"(They were no way near "first")"

I agree. They arrived about 6,000 years ago.

Some believe the world's oceans were reduced by up to 500 feet during the Ice Age.

69 posted on 12/28/2004 7:23:53 PM PST by blam
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To: okie01
"It's not often one gets to correct the recognized expert. We all thank you for giving us the opportunity..."

Thank you. I'm a retired chip-maker. This is a hobby.

70 posted on 12/28/2004 7:27:10 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
This is a hobby.

Doesn't keep one from being "the recognized expert".

71 posted on 12/28/2004 7:37:51 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: blam
I'm so ronery.
75 posted on 12/28/2004 8:06:51 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: Battle Axe
"No one found the Enemy Man in the same area, so perhaps wild animals were able to gobble him up."

They've recovered DNA of four different humans from the blood spots found on Oetzi. (Hand to hand fighting?)

76 posted on 12/28/2004 8:16:58 PM PST by blam
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To: snarks_when_bored
"I'm so ronery."

Sorry. I should have done a search.

77 posted on 12/28/2004 8:19:47 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Not a problem. Your timing was good, and clearly many people find the story interesting. I'm just kidding around.


78 posted on 12/28/2004 9:06:26 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: Battle Axe
I don't really see how they can say he died from that arrow, as he could have died from the cold after being shot and not able to care for himself.

In the scenario you present, I would say he died from the arrow. Or at least the guy who shot the arrow into him killed him.

It is just like today. If some punk shoots an honest citizen and the citizen falls off a bridge as a result of being shot, it doesn't matter whether the shot or the fall was the cause of death, the punk is guilty of murder.

An even better example is the Matthew Shepherd case where the perps beat the victim and left him to die on a fence post. Even though he died from exposure the perps were convicted of murdering him.

Ice Man appeared to be lying down trying to get some sleep or died from exposure due to the wound.

I am not certain you can make this conclusion. Yes he was lying down when found, but in general, people who die from being shot with an arrow end up lying down. I know this for sure from watching many cowboy & Indian movies as a kid. I saw it on TV too, so it must be true...

79 posted on 12/28/2004 9:36:52 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: farmfriend

BTTT!!!!!!


80 posted on 12/29/2004 3:03:39 AM PST by E.G.C.
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