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American Neo-Conservatives Are Abusing the Spirit of Christ, Whose Real Essence Is in Islam
MEMRI ^ | December 24, 2004 | Memri

Posted on 12/27/2004 6:34:02 PM PST by yatros from flatwater

12/24/2004 Clip No. 441
Rafsanjani in a Tehran University Friday Sermon: The American Neo-Conservatives Are Abusing the Spirit of Christ, Whose Real Essence Is in Islam

The following are excerpts from a Friday sermon at Tehran University. The preacher is Ali-Akbar Hashemi-Rafsanjani, head of the Iranian Expediency council:

Rafsanjani: Regarding what is going on is the Christian World, one must distinguish between most of the people, who are deprived of rights, oppressed, the people of the Third World, and another part of the people – such as the Americans. The American Neo-Conservatives, who are, in fact, the Zionists of our time, are now in control, and they are abusing the spirit of Christ. We expect that the scholars and leading men of the Christian World will not allow the exalted spirit [of Christ] to be contaminated by the sinister goals of these greedy, colonialist people. They must act in order to appease the spirit of Christ. We, too, are willing to cooperate for the sake of the justice of Christ, whose pure essence is in Islam.

Crowd: Death to America! Death to America! Death to America!



TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: christians; iran; islam; memritv; mullah; neocons; neoconservative; shia
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To: glockmeister40

Apt enough for me!


21 posted on 12/27/2004 7:11:11 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. I TIM 3:5)
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To: glockmeister40
Islam is a religion, founded by Satan and led by psychopathic murderers.
22 posted on 12/27/2004 7:14:33 PM PST by Phsstpok (Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to reform - Mark Twain)
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To: yatros from flatwater

An Iranian mullah discussing the true meaning of Christianity is like a crack-addled hooker discussing the true meaning of chastity. Islam is the psychopathology of evil


23 posted on 12/27/2004 7:14:49 PM PST by muir_redwoods
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To: joesnuffy
Unfortunately, Mohammed was not the first or the last to dabble in syncretism.

For example:
Asherah = Ishtar = Eostre = Easter, leading to the associated cakes for the Queen of Heaven, eggs, bunnies...

24 posted on 12/27/2004 7:15:17 PM PST by yatros from flatwater (Melech Yisrael Chai!)
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To: SedVictaCatoni

Ask the mullah's, I'm sure they have something planned for us infidels we haven't even dreamed of yet.

1400 Years of Islamic Aggression:
http://www.cbn.com/CBNNews/Commentary/IslamHistory0212.asp?option=print

I am far more concerned with what their history tells us than with what we might need to do, to defend ourselves.


25 posted on 12/27/2004 7:27:49 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf. Click Fred Nerks for Link.)
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To: SedVictaCatoni

Exterminate? I didn't see anything about exterminating anybody. Did you?


26 posted on 12/27/2004 7:29:59 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: All
Lovely, they're singing the old Christmas carol: Death to America! Death to America! Death to America!
27 posted on 12/27/2004 7:37:18 PM PST by dighton
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To: ozzymandus; John Will
Exterminate? I didn't see anything about exterminating anybody. Did you?

Well, let's wait and see what John has to say about his proposed "reclamation". Constantinople and Alexandria are populated by millions of Muslims. What happens to them? Tell us all about it - do some get to live?

28 posted on 12/27/2004 7:44:17 PM PST by SedVictaCatoni (<><)
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To: dighton

The only positive aspect to the whole thing is that the crowd is hardly enthusiastic -- is the chant dubbed in?


29 posted on 12/27/2004 7:45:00 PM PST by yatros from flatwater (Melech Yisrael Chai!)
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To: ozzymandus

I didn't see anything about exterminating anyone either, I think that statement/accusation probably tells us more about the indivual who made it, than it does about anyone else.
A city, a territory, a country can be 'reclaimed' in more ways than one...just ask the citizens of the former USSR. Or Afghanistan, or Iraq come January, or Iran when the mullah's get their come-uppance.


30 posted on 12/27/2004 7:49:07 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf. Click Fred Nerks for Link.)
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To: yatros from flatwater

Zionism = non-muslims.


31 posted on 12/27/2004 7:52:55 PM PST by Brett66 (W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1)
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To: yatros from flatwater; dennisw; SJackson; MeekOneGOP; TrueBeliever9; Geist Krieger; JohnHuang2; ...
SINISTER - GREEDY - ZIONIST - COLONIST - ABUSERS OF CHRIST - >> ping.

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"The American Neo-Conservatives, who are, in fact, the Zionists of our time, are now in control, and they are abusing the spirit of Christ."

"We expect that the scholars and leading men of the Christian World will not allow the exalted spirit [of Christ] to be contaminated by the sinister goals of these greedy, colonialist people."

"They must act in order to appease the spirit of Christ. We, too, are willing to cooperate for the sake of the justice of Christ, whose pure essence is in Islam."

32 posted on 12/27/2004 7:58:04 PM PST by Happy2BMe ("Islam fears democracy worse than anything-It castrates their stranglehold at the lowest level.")
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To: yatros from flatwater

So true. I read all about that a few years ago in a very interesting little book. Now I always refer to that day as Resurrection Day.


33 posted on 12/27/2004 7:58:23 PM PST by JudyinCanada (Five-fingered Canadian)
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To: joesnuffy; BigCinBigD; glockmeister40
"If the world does not recognize the imminent danger and take steps not only to protect itself, but to combat the danger, it may very well not only witness – but experience - another holocaust."

Not until I read this did I fully understand the hatred the Palesintians, all Arabs, and Islam has towards Israel . . (praying for the "Peace of Jeruselum) . .

The "Jesus of Yassar Arrafat's Islamic Hadith." (a.k.a. "Kill the Israeli, Kill the American.”

Victor Mordecai has come to the inescapable conclusion that Islam poses the greatest threat ever to Judeo-Christian Western Civilization.  This bottom line has become evidently clear as he follows history and developments along the seam lines separating between Islamic and non-Islamic lands.  Islamic wars and confrontation are global in nature.   

It is Islamic ideology that the world is divided into two: The Islamic “Dar e-Salaam” or House of Islam or House of Peace.  Opposing this “Dar e-Salaam” is the “Dar e-Harb” or House of War into which all infidels fall.  There can be no peace for Islam until the entire “Dar e-Harb” falls to the “Dar e-Salaam”.  So this is a fight to the finish.  Islam must be victorious or be vanquished.  Since Islam’s victory calls on the inevitable destruction of all infidels, Victor Mordecai calls for world mobilization to terminate Islam as a system.  Either the world deals with Islam, or Islam will deal with the world.  In this sense, there is no difference between Islam, Nazism and Communism as exclusive world domination systems.

 There are wars of genocide in which over two million black Christians have been slaughtered in the Sudan.  Another six to eight million are slated for destruction.  Another example of genocide is in various parts of the Indonesian archipelago in which over 300,000 East Timorese were killed since 1975.  Over half a million of ethnically Chinese have been killed in Indonesia since the 1960’s.  Yet in response to these genocides, the world remains indifferent and silent.  Other wars brewing involve Chinese-Islamic war in East Turkestan commonly known as Sinkiang Province in western China;  a festering war in the south Philippines focused on Mindanao and Sulu Islands; a potentially nuclear war between India and Pakistan over Kashmir; Christian-Islamic confrontation in the Balkans, Lebanon, Egypt, Pakistan, Malaysia, Singapore, and throughout Africa.  Of course, last but definitely not least is the Judeo-Christian conflict with Islam in the Holy Land.

 It is this last conflict which drew Victor Mordecai into the field of battle with Islam.  Victor’s wife, an Egyptian born Jew taught him early in their relationship that in Egypt, there were three groups:  the Jew or “Yahudi”, the Christians or “Messihi” and finally the Moslems, known as the gentiles, goyim or the pagans.  I had hated Christians as a young man calling them the goyim.  But my wife made it clear to me that the Christians are not goyim.  We Jews and Christians have the same God, the same Bible, and the Messiah is not a Moslem, Buddhist or Hindu but a Jew who speaks Hebrew.  The Jews and Christians are known in the Islamic lands as the “People of the Book”, not the peoples of the book.

Our only debate is about the specific status of Jesus of Nazareth. 

 The Islamic “Hadith” teaches that Jesus returns a second time.  But this Jesus is slightly different than the one Christians revere.  The Islamic Jesus returns a second time as a Muslim. 

Yasser Arafat has been quoted as saying, “Jesus was the first Palestinian Moslem revolutionary.”  Accordingly, Jesus kills the anti-Christ with a spear in a battle outside of the city of Lod.   He proceeds to Jerusalem, where he participates in the morning Islamic worship on the Temple Mount with 400,000 Moslems.  After this, he comes down from the Temple Mount, breaks all the crosses, destroys the churches of the Christians and the synagogues of the Jews.  And on that day, all the Jews and Christians, the People of the Book, who have not converted to Islam, embraced Allah as God, and Mohammed as the greatest of all the prophets, will be put to the sword by Jesus the Moslem. 

 As we listen carefully to Islamic clerics preaching in mosques, we hear all too often: “Kill the Jew, Kill the Christian.  Kill the Israeli, Kill the American.”  All of this is uttered in one breath.  By the way, this is to be done after the killing of the pagans such as the Hindus and Buddhists.  So Islam is a global threat, and all mankind must unite to oppose and vanquish Islam.  Moslems are good people, like the Germans or Russians, but Islam as a system is evil like Nazism and Communism. 

34 posted on 12/27/2004 7:59:37 PM PST by Happy2BMe ("Islam fears democracy worse than anything-It castrates their stranglehold at the lowest level.")
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To: SedVictaCatoni

And Alexandria and Constantinople were inhabited by whom before the muslims took over? Did you remember to shed a tear for the indigenous peoples of every land that islam has conquered by the sword since mohammadanism was founded?

Ask not for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.



35 posted on 12/27/2004 8:02:32 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf. Click Fred Nerks for Link.)
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To: yatros from flatwater

Project For A New American Century are a bunch of morons for publishing their recommendations. Practically everything PNAC publishes sounds imperialistic and now the anti-american crowd uses it to label neocons and beat down this administration with it.


36 posted on 12/27/2004 8:04:22 PM PST by bahblahbah
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.


37 posted on 12/27/2004 8:18:53 PM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: Happy2BMe

Not bad for a creed that came out of the mouth of a beggar who sat on the steps of a temple and lived on handouts. I don't hate mooselimbs, I loathe and despise arabs. May a huge tsunami hit Saudi Arabia and wash them all into the sea. (Again; it happened once before, around 1400 BC)

No need to worry about the bodies. Fishfood.

Evidence of Ancient Floods in the Heart of Saudi Arabia:
http://www.specialtyinterests.net/floods.html


38 posted on 12/27/2004 8:24:10 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf. Click Fred Nerks for Link.)
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To: Fred Nerks
And Alexandria and Constantinople were inhabited by whom before the muslims took over?

Are you saying "we would be justified in killing or driving out the millions of inhabitants of Alexandria and Istanbul today because of what happened centuries ago"? If you are not saying this, what are you saying? Be specific.

39 posted on 12/27/2004 8:24:26 PM PST by SedVictaCatoni (<><)
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To: Fred Nerks
I didn't see anything about exterminating anyone either, I think that statement/accusation probably tells us more about the indivual who made it, than it does about anyone else. A city, a territory, a country can be 'reclaimed' in more ways than one...just ask the citizens of the former USSR. Or Afghanistan, or Iraq come January, or Iran when the mullah's get their come-uppance.

Okay, describe your alternative. The inhabitants of Alexandria and Istanbul currently govern themselves, unlike the examples you cited. The Istanbullus are citizens of a functioning democracy. How do you propose that we "reclaim" them? You mention "more ways than one"... just a couple examples would suffice.

40 posted on 12/27/2004 8:27:05 PM PST by SedVictaCatoni (<><)
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