[LS]

"Even the most contentious or disaffected of students in the '60s or early '70s never really pressed this kind of issue,"

This is simply a lie. One of my late colleagues---a liberal---recalled that in the 1970s students would stand up in HIS class and give him the "raspberries" and wag their fingers at him when he expressed anything LESS than a view that the U.S. government ought to be overthrown! I heard the same from another prof at UD during the same time. I say, give these lib profs hell!

[Hodar]

...three incoming freshmen sued over a reading assignment they said offended their Christian beliefs.

This is where I draw the line. While I have no problems with students standing up to liberal indoctrination; when you use lawsuits to prevent assignments from beign presented, you have thwarted the entire purpose of the class.

Consider classes in biology, if any mention of evolution is challenged by a lawsuit, the students will fail to grasp the fact that life forms change over time. This is evident in the fossil records, thus we now have students dictating what will be presented for education, and what will not.

The point of college is to gain exposure to new ways of thought, be it calculus, atomic physics, Einsteinian physics as an extension of Newtonian physics, Arts, humanities, and social sciences. Whether you accept these theories into your personal life is not the point. You can be an expert in evolution and still be a devout Christian. Just because something is being assigned that you may not like, or agree with is not a reason that it should be removed from the ciriculmn. Using this same line of reasoning, would one then remove the history of Nazi Germany from the history ciriculumn?

[Doctor Raoul]

For example, at the University of North Carolina, three incoming freshmen sued over a reading assignment they said offended their Christian beliefs.

BBBBBaaaaaaaWWWWWWWaaaaaaHHHHHHHHaaaaaa!!!!!

The liberals are like Pavlov's dog and the choice of words here must make them slopper, however, they also realize this is the evil, religous, fundamentalist, evangelical, "we're allowed to hate them" Christians. Thereby causing a severe brain cramp in any and all liberals that read it.

[Ciexyz]

I remember a required English course at Penn State circa 1970 that included two readings concerning religious themes: an anti-religious book by Voltaire in which the author mocked religious belief that all things work together for good for those who love God, and a reading and analysis of the book of Job.

I'd imagine that such a balance is absent today, in that religious books would be ignored in the curriculum.

[wizardoz]

They insist even most liberal professors give fair grades to conservative students who work hard and support their arguments.

I have to say, just in my own experience, even though my views drove my profs to shaking, white-faced, blinking-back-tears rage, I always got As. Of course, they were a wimpy bunch and whenever I wore my camouflage jacket and old flight boots, they looked at me as though they expected me to grab them in some secret military vulcan death grip when no one was looking and leave them cooling in a stairwell. Heh heh heh....

[Drango]

I've saved a thousand or so over the last ten years by NOT donating to my Alumni assocation. When the colleges get hit in the wallet they'll change their behavior.

[Fiddlstix]

BTTT

[shield]

bmp

[blackminorcapullets]

"Even the most contentious or disaffected of students in the '60s or early '70s never really pressed this kind of issue,"

What a crock - I had a poly sci prof - typical NYC, leftist, NYTimes suckup who gave me a C+ on a thesis supporting the man made nature of the Ukrainian Holdomor (in 1973). He had to throw in the following.

"Good as far as it goes but after all, they were Kulaks weren't they?"

Da , Comrade Tovarich!!

[NathanR]

"Even the most contentious or disaffected of students in the '60s or early '70s never really pressed this kind of issue," said Robert O'Neil, former president of the University of Virginia and now director of the Thomas Jefferson Center for the Protection of Free Expression

Liar.

Either that, or he never heard of:
"Hey Hey
Ho Ho
Western Civ has got to go!"

[The_Media_never_lie]

Good post!

[KittyKares]

ping

[freekitty]

My late father was in college right before WWII and the instructors were spouting leftists views than.

I believe he stood up to them.

[Angry Republican]

I'm pretty much convinced that most profs. are liberal. However, some will let their bias slide if the student is able to effectively argue their conservative leaning cause.

Case in point: a left wing coworker of mine wrote a paper claiming why President Bush would win the 2k4 election. His claim was heavily backed by facts. As a result, he got an A on his paper.

[rockrr]

You know, it's an amazing thing.

When I go to work, I go there to do my job, not proselytize my political beliefs.

When I go to a restaurant, I don't want to hear how bad a day the waitress is having.

And when I go to school, I'm there to hear the instructor speak on Math or Economics, not his personal beliefs.

I couldn't care less about his personal beliefs!

Why is this so hard? Because the academic world isn't secular at all - it's just that the religion they push is Statism (through a Socialist eye). For all they piss & moan about imaginary "separation" clauses, and how offensive it would be to expose someone to the horror of an alternate point of view, they have a wide-open (and almost exclusive) conduit to what Rush refers to as "Skulls full of mush".

I would like to see these people fear for their lives....

[guitarist]

The situation varies from school to school. At my kid's school there is a good block of conservative faculty that gives a bit of balance. But it is still pretty bad. I think all of us conservatives need to support Horowitz. There is some terrible abuse of the system by liberals, and Horowitz and co. are just trying to set up minimal fairness. Realize that at many of the colleges--in many classrooms--it is pure propaganda, and conservative papers and presentations automatically get lower grades.

[BlessedBeGod]

But many educators, while agreeing students should never feel bullied, worry that they just want to avoid exposure to ideas that challenge their core beliefs - an essential part of education.

If they really believed that, they would also challenge their liberal students. LOL!

[Charlespg]

"It's often phrased in the language of academic freedom. That's what's so strange about it," said Ellen Schrecker, a Yeshiva University historian who has written about academic freedom during the McCarthy area. "What they're saying is, 'We want people to reflect our point of view.'"

The liberals have been doing that for years

what comes around goes around

[af_vet_1981]

Revoke all tenured positions.