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To: NormsRevenge
"Even the most contentious or disaffected of students in the '60s or early '70s never really pressed this kind of issue,"

This is simply a lie. One of my late colleagues---a liberal---recalled that in the 1970s students would stand up in HIS class and give him the "raspberries" and wag their fingers at him when he expressed anything LESS than a view that the U.S. government ought to be overthrown! I heard the same from another prof at UD during the same time. I say, give these lib profs hell!

2 posted on 12/25/2004 9:48:51 AM PST by LS
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To: LS
I agree and I was there at that time. "Teach Ins" where campus radicals were permitted to take over classes and spew their propaganda, Ultra Lib profs who delivered biased teaching at the expense of actually educating their students and administrations who either actively supported this situation or stood aside, unwilling to stand up for students rights to a real education, made attendance at many universities a lesson in frustration on the part of many students.

The same situation is present today and I hope students and the public at large have the courage and energy to aggressively act against these ideologues.

5 posted on 12/25/2004 10:07:21 AM PST by drt1
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To: LS

I concur based on personal experience in Academia during the 60's/70's that the demands were frequent and definitely well beyond the bounds of academic freedom/inquiry and free speech. Some turnabout would be fair and just, but only as retribution. In the long run it would be best if it could all go away.


11 posted on 12/25/2004 10:34:43 AM PST by Paladin2 (SeeBS News - We Decide, We Create, We Report - In that order! - ABC - Already Been Caught)
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To: LS
One of my late colleagues---a liberal---recalled that in the 1970s students would stand up in HIS class and give him the "raspberries" and wag their fingers at him when he expressed anything LESS than a view that the U.S. government ought to be overthrown! I heard the same from another prof at UD during the same time. I say, give these lib profs hell!

And then there were the black mitiants who brought their GUNS on campus to demand an academic environment more to their liking, including more "black studies"

28 posted on 12/25/2004 12:34:30 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (We are going to fight until hell freezes over and then we are going to fight on the ice)
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To: LS
At Ball State, the school's provost sided with Professor George Wolfe after a student published complaints about Wolfe's peace studies course, but the episode has attracted local attention.

The very idea of a "peace studies" course is ridiculous. The title itself suggests there is an "attitude" behind the curriculum, rather than intelligent investigation.

Otherwise, would not such a course be labelled a "History" course?

Outside of propaganda and dialectics, I suspect that Prof. Wolfe has little interest in "teaching".

34 posted on 12/25/2004 4:35:45 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: LS
"Even the most contentious or disaffected of students in the '60s or early '70s never really pressed this kind of issue," said Robert O'Neil, former president of the University of Virginia and now director of the Thomas Jefferson Center for the Protection of Free Expression.

Absolutely he's lying. Remember ROTC buildings being firebombed? ROTC being banned from campus? Sit-in protests? Taking over administration buildings? It's the same lying revisionist history they've always pushed.

36 posted on 12/25/2004 4:41:18 PM PST by Richard Kimball
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