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What is a Prophet? - (Amazing article by Barbara Stock!)
RENEW AMERICA.COM ^ | DECEMBER 23, 2004 | BARBARA J. STOCK

Posted on 12/23/2004 1:46:07 PM PST by CHARLITE

The world is hearing much these days about "prophets." Was Moses a prophet? Was Jesus a prophet? Was Mohammed a prophet?

Interestingly, Moses, the man credited with leading the children of Israel out of Egypt is considered a great prophet by followers of Islam. Moses, or Musa, is mentioned often in the Quran. Much of the Quran is based on the teachings of Moses as opposed to the teaching of Jesus.

Jesus is considered by Christians to be the Son of God. He was the Messiah all prophets before him, including Moses, had predicted changing them from mere "predictors" into true prophets.

There are very few predictions that were issued by Mohammed that were of any consequence. Indeed, his predictions were usually limited to whether his army would win an upcoming battle. No one predicted his coming and thus, his claims of being a "prophet" were largely looked upon by the Arab world at the time with great skepticism.

This leads one to ask, what constitutes a prophet? Anyone can make predictions; it's the fact that the predictions come to pass that makes the difference.

Given the label of saint rather than prophet, a young peasant girl by the name of Bernadette Soubirous made several predictions she claimed were given to her by the Virgin Mary at Lourdes, France. The first prediction was that miracles and cures would occur at Lourdes and this has come to pass. There are a multitude of documented and verified cures and miracles by visitors who were believers and unbelievers alike.

Perhaps less known is that Bernadette also predicted that man would "harness the power of lightening." Many years later, Thomas Edison did just that. She predicted that man would walk on the moon a full quarter century before the Wright brothers took their historic first flight. A dire warning that Germany would "rise up and stifle most of Europe" came to pass in the form of World War II.

Unlike prophets before her, Bernadette did not claim her words came from God but from Mary, the Mother of Jesus Christ. Indeed, since the death of Christ, nearly all announced prophecies have come from the Virgin Mary and not God himself.

The fifth and final prediction from Saint Bernadette of Lourdes covered two major topics. She predicted there would be a "second golden age of man," but not until man turned against the science that had run wild "combining the essence of man and the essence of a beast." Just recently, genetic engineers have talked of combining the DNA of man and animal. Bernadette claimed that "monsters would be spawned" and this would be the catalyst that would make humankind rise up against such science and those practicing it.

Equally chilling was the prediction that the Christian countries of the world would unite to defeat the followers of Mohammed. The year she said this great battle would begin was the year 2000. This horrible and bloody battle, that would claim the lives of millions, would be ended by a nuclear attack on present day Iran. She predicted a "bomb of great power would fall on a city in Persia." In Bernadette's day, there was no Iran.

It is unlikely this poor and uneducated girl, who could barely read, knew anything about the "followers of Mohammed." Why would she mention them specifically? Is it just coincidence that the world is now trying to prevent Iran, considered by many to be the heart of radical Islam, from getting its own nuclear weapons? Was it just chance that the first shot fired in this war was the taking of American hostages in Iran in the 1970's?

Some would say the attack on America didn't take place until 2001, so Bernadette was wrong. But was she? It was in the year 2000 that George W. Bush, the man who has openly declared war on the radical element of Islam and labeled them evil, was elected president. Up until that time, the leaders of the free world had tried to ignore terrorists, hoping they would go away.

But was this young girl a prophet? Yes, by all standards, many believe that she was. She made predictions that came to pass and she made predictions about things she could have had no prior knowledge. But perhaps the strongest indication that there was something very special about Bernadette Soubirous, who died in 1879, is the fact that to this day, her body is virtually the same as the day she died.

Buried for 30 years, her body was exhumed when the investigation for sainthood began. The investigators were startled to look at a young woman with almost no signs of decomposition. She appeared as though she had just died the day before they saw her. Also missing was the normal odor of a decaying body. After their investigation, she was once again buried, only to be exhumed again in 1919.

Again, there were no signs of normal decomposition or odor. The last examination of Saint Bernadette's body was done in 1925 when even her liver was examined and found to be soft and in near normal condition even though she had died nearly 40 years earlier.

A crystal coffin was made and to this day the miracle that is Saint Bernadette remains in full view in the chapel in the Church of St. Gildard at the convent in Nevers, France. A light plastic mold was made of her face and hands to add color but her body remains much as did the last day of her life over 100 years ago.

Should the Christian world heed the prediction of the war to come given to the world from the Virgin Mary through this humble peasant girl over a hundred years ago? Would it not be prudent to prepare for what is to come?

Prophets come when we least expect them and they rarely announce themselves. Most did not asked for the burden of being a prophet and it is a burden as most were ridiculed and belittled. Time and time again real prophets warn us of things to come. We just need to hear them.

Barbara J. Stock is an RN of over 23 years and is fairly new to political writing. She has had articles posted on BushCountry, GOPUSA, AmericanDaily, RepublicanDailyNews, Town Hall, OpinionEditorials, and the Judson Cox Newsletter. She has her own website called Republican and Proud and welcomes comments at
dickens502003@yahoo.com

© Copyright 2004 by Barbara J. Stock


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bernadette; bible; france; islam; jesus; lourdes; messiah; mohammed; moses; musa; predictions; prophets; quran; realities; soubirous; virginmary
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1 posted on 12/23/2004 1:46:10 PM PST by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

Interesting question. Was Mohammed a "Prophet"? Can a sexual predator and murderer be considered a "Prophet"? What about the "Prophet" Charles Manson?


2 posted on 12/23/2004 1:49:23 PM PST by Kurt_D
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To: CHARLITE

That is a nice story, but I don't believe it. Merry Christmas to you, though.


3 posted on 12/23/2004 1:50:28 PM PST by conserv13
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To: Kurt_D

Thanks for the new tagline.


5 posted on 12/23/2004 1:53:01 PM PST by broadsword (The difference between Mohammed and Charles Manson is... well... exactly WHAT?)
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To: Kurt_D

Manson just had bad press....

Democrats always do.


6 posted on 12/23/2004 1:54:45 PM PST by kingsurfer
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To: CHARLITE

Edgar Cayce was a fascinating modern day prophet. And a dedicated Christian to boot.


7 posted on 12/23/2004 1:55:49 PM PST by tkathy (Ban all religious head garb.)
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To: CHARLITE
what constitutes a prophet? Anyone can make predictions

Lest you have forgotten; making predictions is not required for one to be classified as a prophet.

The word "prophet" is a noun. proph·et n.

1. A person who speaks by divine inspiration or as the interpreter through whom the will of a god is expressed.
2. A person gifted with profound moral insight and exceptional powers of expression.
3. A predictor; a soothsayer.
4. The chief spokesperson of a movement or cause.

8 posted on 12/23/2004 1:56:36 PM PST by MosesKnows
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To: CHARLITE
Should the Christian world heed the prediction of the war to come given to the world from the Virgin Mary through this humble peasant girl over a hundred years ago?

Newp.

Would it not be prudent to prepare for what is to come?

No, it wouldn't be.

Say, would you be interested in buying a Yeti pelt I have? I got it from the Elohim.

9 posted on 12/23/2004 1:57:29 PM PST by Pahuanui (When a foolish man hears of the Tao, he laughs out loud)
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To: kingsurfer; Kurt_D
I think Manson would argue that the only true prophets were the ones that spoke directly to him through. I'm referring, of course, to the Beetles.
10 posted on 12/23/2004 1:57:47 PM PST by Jaysun (DEMOCRATS: "We need to be more effective at fooling people.")
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To: Jaysun

Yeh he was pretty messed up.

The Beach Boys are much better.


11 posted on 12/23/2004 2:00:08 PM PST by kingsurfer
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To: kingsurfer
Yeh he was pretty messed up.

The Beach Boys are much better.


The Beach Boys? What about Lionel Richie's amazing abilities as a soothsayer? Case in point, I had just gotten into a fight with my former wife (God rest her soul) and I was just staring into the radio saying, "Talk to me Lionel. What am I supposed to do with this hag? How can I rid myself of her?" Suddenly he came on and said, "Deep River Woman." Well, I've been a hag free believer ever since.
12 posted on 12/23/2004 2:11:39 PM PST by Jaysun (DEMOCRATS: "We need to be more effective at fooling people.")
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To: CHARLITE
The ministry of the prophets of the Old Testament was certainly predictive.... the fore-telling of events... mainly the thematic foretelling of Christ himself. There were 60 major specific prophecies and 270 ramifications that were all Messianic in theme from the Old Testament.

Predicting the future is certainly a prophetic event -- but there remains the ministry of forth-telling... proclaiming the truth from God's heart. John the Baptist did not need a special spiritual gift to discern that King Herod's marriage was adulterous and incestuous -- JTB understood God's Law given in Moses' covenant, and he knew the circumstances -- and took his stand as the Lord's prophetic servant -- and paid the usual price for not being politically correct in his own day.

Later in the Acts we find the ministry of Agabus...
Once found fore-telling... the Holy Spirit revealed the prediction of a regional famine that permitted the churches to anticipate the needs of the other believers in that region.....
And once found forth-telling... affirming the revelation of the Spirit to apostle Paul who was bound for Jerusalem for the last time -- (something Paul already knew from the Lord!)

We are all marginally fascinated by the predictive aspects of prophetic giftings -- but keep in mind one of the identifiers of a false prophet in the Old Testament involved those who might be able to accurately predict the future... but whose predictions and morality led people AWAY from their devotion to the Lord.

Christmas blessings to all.....

13 posted on 12/23/2004 2:12:18 PM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The answers are out there; Wisdom is gained by asking the right questions)
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To: CHARLITE

...This horrible and bloody battle, that would claim the lives of millions, would be ended by a nuclear attack on present day Iran. She predicted a "bomb of great power would fall on a city in Persia." ...

Well now, there's an idea.


14 posted on 12/23/2004 2:12:26 PM PST by UltraKonservativen (( YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID ))
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To: conserv13

No one should worship Mary or any dead Christian.

It robs God of Worship.

Catholics have an Unhealthy Obsession with Mary.

A Catholic Cemetary is called. "Queen of Heaven" with a Huge Statue of Mary at it's entrance.

There are No Queens in Heaven.

Only the King of Kings.


15 posted on 12/23/2004 2:13:56 PM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: CHARLITE

If you read what constituted a New Testament "prophet," it is one who "exorts and encourages." This is not to be confused with the New Testament "Gift of the Spirit" called the "Word of Wisdom," which is special insignt into the present or future---or what most today call "prophecy." The Old Testament concepts combined both in one, because at the time of, say, Ezekiel there was no Holy Spirit available to every man.


16 posted on 12/23/2004 2:16:58 PM PST by LS
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To: Kurt_D

The Bible also says there will be many False Prophets.

If Bernadete didnt get her information from God, then She is a Prophet "Not of God". That sounds like a false prophet. It doesn't matter if what she predicted came true. Demonic spirits can imitate others.

and as far as her Dead Body not decomposing..The "Beast"
in Revelations suffers a Mortal wound and yet doesn't die.

So there is a real danger of looking at these sensational
"Miracles" and predictions and not checking that they are in harmony with scriptures.

Predictions of Edison, and WW2, etc...How does that Spread the Gospel?

Bleeding statues, and Images of mary in dirty windows and
on tree bark.

Preach Christ and him crucified!
read the Bible! and trust in Jesus alone for your Salvation.
pray, and the Holy Spirit will lead you into all truth.

Thats all you need.


17 posted on 12/23/2004 2:28:58 PM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: Jaysun

Is this a Confession?


18 posted on 12/23/2004 2:32:13 PM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

Don't forget the woman that had a Demon cast out of her and Men who owned her were using her to fortell the future.

A "False Prophet"


19 posted on 12/23/2004 2:34:27 PM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: CHARLITE
it's the fact that the predictions come to pass that makes the difference.

Prophets and prophecies are much more than simple predictions. Even Satan can predict. Prophecies build up the body of Christ and must be consistant with scripture.

20 posted on 12/23/2004 2:35:01 PM PST by Raycpa (Alias, VRWC_minion,)
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