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Sailor opposed to Iraq war refuses to board ship (ENEMY WITIN OUR BORDERS ALERT!!!)
SignOnSanDiego.com & RushLimbaugh.com ^ | 7 Dec. 2004 | Rick Rogers

Posted on 12/23/2004 11:16:35 AM PST by txradioguy

Petty Officer 3rd Class Pablo Paredes followed through on his plan: He refused to board his Navy ship yesterday morning when it sailed for Iraq with thousands of Camp Pendleton Marines.

For nearly two hours, the weapons-control technician sat on his ship's pier at the 32nd Street Naval Station. He talked with media and waited to be arrested, but the arrest didn't happen.

A Navy spokesman said Paredes, 23, wasn't taken into custody because he hadn't violated any regulations. Navy procedures stipulate that an officer can't be listed as missing until an official roll has been called aboard ship.

"Paredes is considered (to be) in an unauthorized absent status," said Cmdr. William Fenick, spokesman for the 3rd Fleet. "He is encouraged to check into any naval facility as soon as possible. Sailors have an obligation to get under way when their ships deploy, and today over 5,000 sailors and Marines met that obligation and began their deployment."

Paredes believes he wasn't detained because of the media presence. On Sunday, he had called newspapers and radio and TV stations to announce his anti-deployment intentions.

Paredes had planned to publicly throw his military I.D. into the ocean to underscore his stand against the war. But yesterday, he changed his mind after learning that he could be charged with destruction of government property.

Paredes held firm, however, when a Navy officer tried to persuade him to board the amphibious assault ship Bonhomme Richard, which transports Marines to the Middle East.

"I told him that I don't plan on getting under way, that I refuse, that I resign," Paredes said yesterday afternoon in a phone interview.

Paredes had joined the Navy in 2000. He was stationed in Japan until now, he said, and didn't think he had a direct connection to the war in Iraq.

Paredes might be the first local sailor to refuse deployment on the grounds of being philosophically opposed to the Iraq war, said Sam Samuelson, spokesman for the San Diego Naval Station.

Paredes is looking for a lawyer to represent him for free before he turns himself in to the Navy.

"I knew what was coming," Paredes said, "and now I just have to see it through."


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KEYWORDS: antiamericanism; iraq; navy; oif; pabloparedes; treason; warprotestors; wot
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Roger Hegecock was talking about this on Rush the other day and it floored me. How in the hell are we supposed to fight the enemy OUTSIDE our borders when we have to deal with this stuff from an enemy WITHIN our borders???
1 posted on 12/23/2004 11:16:37 AM PST by txradioguy
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Maybe I'm over reacting a bit here...but IMHO this guy should either spend the rest of his aduly life on the synchronized mowing team at Ft. Leavenworth or shot for desertion.


2 posted on 12/23/2004 11:17:44 AM PST by txradioguy (HOOAH!!!...Not Just A Word...A Way Of Life!)
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You fight them one person at a time.


3 posted on 12/23/2004 11:18:17 AM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative.)
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"Missing Movement" is a court martial offense. They need to make an example out of this guy.


4 posted on 12/23/2004 11:18:23 AM PST by mbynack
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....that I resign," Paredes said yesterday ...

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Boy is delusional.
If memory serves, the only people who are allowed to resign are Commissioned officers, not enlisted or non-coms.
5 posted on 12/23/2004 11:19:43 AM PST by taxcontrol (People are entitled to their opinion - no matter how wrong it is.)
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Indeed, you miss movement, its not a good thing at all. Anyways, why would you not want to go? You're on a nice big ship the entire time...


6 posted on 12/23/2004 11:20:15 AM PST by BladeLWS
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Paredes had planned to publicly throw his military I.D. into the ocean to underscore his stand against the war.

This guy planning to run for the senate in Mass.?

7 posted on 12/23/2004 11:20:23 AM PST by Michael.SF. ("My only regret in life is that none of my children are gay." - Sharon Osborne)
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Git a rope.


8 posted on 12/23/2004 11:20:47 AM PST by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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LOL!


9 posted on 12/23/2004 11:20:59 AM PST by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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How in the hell are we supposed to fight the enemy OUTSIDE our borders when we have to deal with this stuff from an enemy WITHIN our borders???

With 240 million people you are always going to have this. The media will zero in on the .000001 percent and blow it all up so that it appears like its a mass movement. The military will handle it and the guy will get a dishonorable. The American people don't respect, and are not concerned, with these people because they are fraudulent volunteers...not conscripts.
10 posted on 12/23/2004 11:22:19 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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Agreed this guy needs to be court marshaled...but what about the "organization" that is out there promoting this kind of action by our armed forces. From what Hegecock said earlier this week...this group is advertising on CITY BUSES in San Diego! Isn't there something...ANYTHING the state or Federal gov't can do to stop this blatant act of...forgive me if the word is wrong...sedition...by our own citizens?


11 posted on 12/23/2004 11:22:31 AM PST by txradioguy (HOOAH!!!...Not Just A Word...A Way Of Life!)
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On Sunday, he had called newspapers and radio and TV stations to announce his anti-deployment intentions.

So instead of addressing his concerns through the proper channels, he runs to the media. Confinement on bread and water follwed by a trip to boot camp - Marine boot camp - should give this guy a good attitude adjustment.

12 posted on 12/23/2004 11:22:31 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Gun-control is leftist mind-control.)
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Cowardice is not a philosophy.


13 posted on 12/23/2004 11:22:33 AM PST by AHWilde
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...that I resign," Paredes said yesterday ...

---- Boy is delusional. If memory serves, the only people who are allowed to resign are Commissioned officers, not enlisted or non-coms.


Ditto...not to mention Article 92 of the UCMJ.
14 posted on 12/23/2004 11:22:39 AM PST by hiredhand ( "Pudge the Indestructible Kitty" lives at - http://www.justonemorefarm.com)
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He talked with media and waited to be arrested, but the arrest didn't happen.

...Paredes, 23, wasn't taken into custody because he hadn't violated any regulations. ... an officer can't be listed as missing until an official roll has been called aboard ship. "Paredes is considered (to be) in an unauthorized absent status."

Paredes believes he wasn't detained because of the media presence.

Looks like to me that the military is learning how to play press games. Had they arrested the guy, they would have walked into the briar patch in the middle of the media flap going on about Rumsfeld. I think it quite possible that he will be arrested at a time of their choosing--when the press is not waiting in the shadows to witness it.

15 posted on 12/23/2004 11:22:49 AM PST by twigs
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If memory serves, the only people who are allowed to resign are Commissioned officers, not enlisted or non-coms.

And if you resign your commission, it doesn't necessarily mean that your obligation is ended. It just means you are not an officer any more.
16 posted on 12/23/2004 11:23:16 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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Don't worry, the Navy will most definately burn this guy's ass for this.


17 posted on 12/23/2004 11:23:30 AM PST by GaltMeister (The only time a Democrat should be allowed in the White House is to visit the President.)
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Bet he won't get too much sleep tonight! Kind of hard to sleep when every little noise wakes you up.

Knock Knock SHORE PATROL!

18 posted on 12/23/2004 11:23:59 AM PST by rocksblues (RINO's = McCain, Lott, Collins, Hagel, Coleman ! developing)
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Paredes had planned to publicly throw his military I.D. into the ocean to underscore his stand against the war. But yesterday, he changed his mind after learning that he could be charged with destruction of government property.

I'm not one who likes to use this word, but man, what a p*ssy. I don't think I'd want him next to our true men in uniform. He could get someone hurt!

19 posted on 12/23/2004 11:24:17 AM PST by Dooderbutt
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I agree and as a member of the media I know this goes on...as a member of the military as well this kind of publicity stunt sickens me. As a plain old citizen of the U.S. it outrages me that this kind of thing happens...even if it is done by a small amount of the people.


20 posted on 12/23/2004 11:24:25 AM PST by txradioguy (HOOAH!!!...Not Just A Word...A Way Of Life!)
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