I can never tell which one is Patty & which one is Selma
Posted on 12/23/2004 6:46:19 AM PST by RtWngr
COLUMBUS -- As Republican officials stonewall subpoenas and subvert the recount process, Rev. Jesse Jackson has pronounced Ohio's vote fraud fiasco "the biggest deal since Selma" and has called for a national rally at "the scene of the crime" in Columbus January 3.
Another major national demonstration will follow in Washington on January 6, as Congress evaluates the Electoral College. Should at least one US Representative and one Senator challenge the electors' votes, a Constitutional crisis could ensue.
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Not really a crisis. The Constitution has rules for this possibility, the Senate and the House retire to their respective chambers, there is a two hour debate, and then there is a vote. If, and it's a mighty big if, the challange is upheld, the house votes for President, the Senate for VP. In other words they need a Republican house and Senate to vote for Kerry and Edwards.
What idiot wrote the piece of pure manure? Under 3USC15 there is no grounds to contest the election of Ohio. All they can evalutate if those were the Electors chosen by the state process and certified by the state official and if that was actually the Electors votes. Even so, if there is a contest, it goes back to both houses of Congress, where everyone will bitch about what idiot protested this and quickly vote to overrule the objection.
Kerrys an Idiot, just not as big a one as Canyers.
Selma Blair is not a big deal... ;)
Conyers is not an idiot, he is one of the shrewedest, cleverly dishonest sleazes who ever came down the pike. He knows he paid for/faked/destroyed valid Republican ballots/double counted sufficient votes to ensunce scumbag's win. This exersize is to calibrate his tactics and see if he got what he paid for. The problem may be that local union leaders who were supposed to use legal/illegal party cash to buy black votes, pocketed the loot.
Conyers knows they corrupted X votes and that should have won. Now they want to know why it didn't.
Not going to happen. The House And Senate would simply rule the objections out of order. Such a thin reed the DU Dummies hang their moonbat tinfoil hats on in hopes of getting Jean Francois Cheri inaugurated on Jan. 20th. You'd think they could come up with a better vote stealing scheme.
"People were ticked off Jesse had the nerve to come and tell them they didn't know how to punch a hole in a card. So they made sure he understood them in both 2002 and 2004."
I wondered what you all felt about all that punch card junk. I know our county had a very high turn out 2002 and 2004. I really believe it was because of the networks calling the panhandle for Gore before our polls were closed. We were ticked off about that and I was ticked off because people I knew out of state called and teased about the butterfly ballots even though we didn't use them over here.
Are you mad?! Don't you remember, they told us at the Illuminati meeting in Gstaad not to mention the "invention" anywhere, especially in forums like these! ;)
Call it What It Is: Nazi-Style Propaganda
By Bob Fitrakis
August 5, 2003: While the mainstream media debates whether the President was misinformed, exaggerating or misleading the U.S. public, they miss the bigger story their obvious complicity with the Bush administration’s Nazi-style propaganda prior to the war. George W. Bush and his administration deliberately undertook a massive campaign to wage illegal and aggressive war against the people of Iraq. The narrow focus on one fraudulent claim in the State of the Union address regarding Iraq buying uranium from Africa ignores the much broader campaign of falsification used to whip the people into a war frenzy.
Take the second obvious lie: that Iraq was harboring and supporting Al Qaeda terrorists. The mainstream media knew that Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden were arch enemies and represented two distinct ideological movements. Hussein’s pan-Arab movement and bin Laden’s fundamentalist pan-Islamic movement. The only thing these two men had in common was that both had been decade-long U.S. allies in the 1980s. Which country is most responsible for harboring Al Qaeda? We know the answer. The United States of America, where they learned to fly and where they attacked on 911 after the Bush administration called the FBI off their trail.
Bush and his cabinet, enabled by the media, tell blatant and verfiable lies daily. Take for example Bush’s latest fabrication on July 15. During a news briefing with UN Secretary General Kofi Annan, the President stated, “The larger point is, and the fundamental question is, did Saddam Hussein have a weapons program? And the answer is, absolutely. And we gave him a chance to let the inspectors in, and he wouldn’t let them in. And, therefore, after a reasonable request, we decided to remove him from power, along with other nations . . . .”
The fact that Bush would so drastically alter reality, with the world’s leading advocate of weapons inspectors beside him, and the images of UN weapons inspectors night after night on U.S. TV news, suggests that the President is either mentally unstable or a pathological liar far worse than Richard Nixon.
Moreover, the UN Security Council specifically refused to sanction the U.S.-British attack on Iraq. It was only an imminent attack that forced out the weapons inspectors.
The more important question may not be the sanity of the President but why the mainstream media allows W to openly, notoriously and outrageously lie. Do Presidential lies matter only if involving oral sex with an intern? Are they perfectly acceptable if done in the style of the Third Reich to support the return of a 19th century imperialist occupation of a Third World people?
Perhaps the U.S. press embraces the silence of the lamb because, as the book Into the Buzzsaw notes, our best investigative reporters are routinely fired, laid off, demoted or silenced when they challenge corruption in high places. Or, are they simply afraid that sinister forces in our own military industrial complex will send them grade-A, Made-in-the-U.S.A. anthrax to intimidate them?
The unaltered fact remains that the only reason George W. is President today is because his brother, Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida, ordered election supervisors to purge some 58,000 voters from the Florida election rolls not because they were felons, but because their names were the same or similar to felons. This news story surfaced on the front page in Britain.
Rather than really thinking of media as being lazy or indifferent, we should see that Bush’s illegal war campaign exposes them as willing accomplices. As media critic Robert McChesney points out “[there has been a] striking consolidation of the media from hundreds of firms to an industry dominated by ten enormous transnational conglomerates. The largest ten media firms own all U.S. TV networks, most TV stations, all major film studios, all major music companies, nearly all cable TV channels, much of the book and magazine publishing, and much, much more.”
And we have the Secretary of State’ son Michael Powell at the FCC advocating more media consolidation, yelling like Bush, “Bring it on!”
Is it any wonder that the public is entranced with so-called “reality TV” while our military produces fictional stories like the “Saving of Private Lynch?” The military scripts neo-American hokum and does Hollywood at its finest. The feel-good tale of the American girl-next-door in the middle of a firefight with evil Iraqi men trying to kill her until her last ammunition clip was emptied. When the Iraqi medical staff tried to return her to the U.S. troops, after she was injured solely by a vehicle crash, they were met with gunfire to keep them at the hospital until the military video crew could arrive and tape the blockbuster fantasy for the nightly news.
Still, the biggest lie that Bush has perpetrated on the U.S. public that has escaped any and all scrutiny is the blatant illegality of the war. Since the Nazi generals were taken away and hung after the Nuremberg trials, there is no such thing as “preventive war” under international law and the UN Charter. No nation has the right to change the “regime” of another nation because they don’t like their leaders; nor can a nation attack another nation because they may pose a threat years in the future. Bizarrely, the U.S. mainstream media allows the President to routinely violate international law unchallenged.
So it is not surprising the Bush administration uses Nazi-style propaganda to resurrect long-discredited and evil Nazi doctrines like preventive war. The Fourth Reich will come to the U.S. in the name of fighting terrorism and protecting “homeland security.”
Bob Fitrakis is a Political Science Professor in the Social and Behavioral Sciences department at Columbus State Community College, and author of The Idea of Democratic Socialism in America and the Decline of the Socialist Party (Garland Publishers 1993). He is the editor of The Free Press, where this article first appeared (www.freepress.org).
As a result of that 2000 Electoral Collage vote, Vice-President Cheney gets to do the same thing.
However, whereas I don't remember any MSM focus on Gore ruling challenges out of order, they will focus on Cheney doing the same and report that the "legitimate" concerns of Black Caucus representatives are not being heard due ruling by the mean Vice-President Cheney.
Now that the Electors of the great blue State of New York have cast THEIR votes for John "L" Kerry, aren't the electoral votes of the State of Ohio "moot"?
The 'Constitutional Crisis' would be over in about an hour, and all the other Senators and Congressmen would just be extremely annoyed at having to ajourn and have individual sessions and vote on the contest. There are no grounds to contest the vote unless there is actually a problem with the Electoral Votes themselves. The process of selecting the Electors is a state issue and Congress has no control over it.
Exactly..the man is stupid. I bet the blacks who were in Selma fighting for their freedom and equality would appreciate this comment.
I didn't have to check for one reason. On a Usenet newsgroup, some clown keeps posting every article this guy writes as the gospel...that's when I looked him up.
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