Posted on 12/21/2004 7:44:45 AM PST by presidio9
Conservatives continue to feast on Rudy Giuliani's misery.
As Rudy begins to distance himself from the ethically challenged, briefly nominated Homeland Security chief wanna-be Bernard Kerik, some right-wing hardliners claim White House strategist Karl Rove devised the Kerik debacle to hurt Giuliani's presidential chances in '08.
"Rove used Rudy and Kerik to tout Bush as the anti-terrorism candidate," says one Republican party player. "But Rudy is too socially liberal for the true-believers. So they let him shoot himself in the foot. Rove knew about Kerik's baggage - and that he could never be confirmed. But he went along with the nomination, betting that the heat would come down on Rudy, which it has."
A White House spokesman didn't return a call for comment on the conspiracy theory. But other party observers disagree that Bush wasn't damaged by Kerik.
"It may even have hurt the appointment of Alberto Gonzales [for attorney general], as Democratic senators are going to question his vetting process, too," says a source.
While some think Giuliani could still be a contender in four years, others believe Rove and Bush have one man in mind for the Oval Office: brother Jeb Bush.
"They're saying, 'We own the party now,'" says one source, "and we're not going to give it away."
One of the main reasons that John Kerry is not President right now is beacuse a lot of Catholics were disgusted for him. His share of the Catholic vote was disproportionately low for a Democrat.
Excellent, thanks
Just wondering: How many of the 911 hijackers entered the country illegally?
'Tis true. And it's nice to see that Catholics are finally learning to think for themselves.
I still contend that a person should vote for the candidate that best represents their views and values, regardless of their religious affiliation (assuming the affiliation isn't in direct contention of their views and values).
LOL. A century after he is laid to rest, politcos will still be blaming unexpected misfortune on Karl Rove...
The liberal media attack Hillary's likely 2006 Senate race opponent- and then blame it on Rove!
Delicious, reminds me of when they got leaks from Clinton's White House and blamed them on Starr.
Agreed, but Catholics are required to care when other people represent themselves as Catholic and then begin behaving in a fashion directly in contrast with Church teachings. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "PRO-CHOICE CATHOLIC."
Agreed, KC. Do the Dims really believe that Bush thinks that in four years the American people will want "more of the same"? They will want a change. Bush's job is to make sure that that "change" candidate has an "R" next to his or her name, can beat Hillary, and is not surnamed "Bush".
Jeb doesn't want the job. At least not now, imho. He shot his wad when he didn't beat Chiles in 1994 while brother George whupped up on Anne Richards.
Be Seeing You,
Chris
Probably a Staussian play on the part of Jeb Bush. say "I won't run" to see who sticks their head out and have KR play them like a fiddle. Rudy is good but I don't think he is ready for prime time. JB on the other hand can be KR choice for the WH in 08. Watch W and KR set the trap for Hillary Clinton before 08.
Conservatives continue to feast on Rudy Giuliani's misery.
I find it ludicrous that people want to consider Jeb for the job in 2008. He's qualified, its just that it would be hard to win and election with three people from the same family in such a short time.
I've seen absolutely NO EVIDENCE of such a mindset within Dubyuh's camp...this is pure conjecture, imho.
FReegards...MUD
The evil Karl Rove is at it again...we really need to keep an eye on him. :)
Nope. Makes no sense at all. If you have money and a false identity (and if you can get yourself from the Mid East to Mexico, you do) why walk into this country when you can fly? If you are against open borders because you feel like your job is threatened, fine. But the idea that we need to go to the obscene expense of closing our borders for security purposes is insulting to the intelligence.
If he does run, I will be voting for him based on his record as governor of the 4th largest state in the country. Florida is a must win for Republicans, if wewant to hang on to our tenous electoral college majority.
Jeb is clearly the best candidate of a ho-hum field.
Any more creepy than two Adameses or the umpteen Kennedys who run for everything from MA Senator to RI Congressman to MD Governor to Hyannis Dog Catcher.
It's an election. If Hillary is the dem, then family connections become irrelevant as a campaign issue. Jeb is hands down the best candidate.
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