Posted on 12/21/2004 5:31:14 AM PST by ChefKeith
there are several ways but all of them costly. Everyone of the possibilities requires US personnel both military and civilian. To use indigenous personnel is asking for trouble. I am sure that the background checks for the indigenous personnel does not go deep enough. Secondly a huge radius for a kill zone if they don't have one would be nice. Vigilance is always the key and when someone is pacing off a compound you can almost rest assure that an attack is pending.
Source: Army of Ansar Al-Sunnah | 10:03:38 AM
The Army of Ansar Al-Sunnah is now taking responsibility for the attack on the US Base in Mosul that has so far left up to 22 people dead. The casualty count does continue to rise and exact figures aren't expected to be known until later.
MACHINE TRANSLATION
In the Name of Allah, the Benificent, the Merciful
( then you cut over the necks and hit from them all fingertips ) the spoils of war A pleasant good news to all of the Muslims
Allah has bestowed upon the militants who fight Allah enemies from the occupiers and the apostates by the events of big massacre in the lines of the crusade Americans, by a martyrdom operation one of Ansar al-Sunna Army militants carried out it at second ten at noon from on Tuesday 21 / 12 / 2004 in a restaurant to the occupation forces the unbelievers are in Alghzlani camp in Mosul . And she has been watched two ambulance planes she transfers the bodies of dead and injured . And the description of this heroic operation has taken place and will present later on God willing .
Praise be to God and the favor is on this support ... ( then you did not kill them but Allah killed them and what threw since I threw but Allah threw and so that the believers show from it a good affliction Allah is hearer and knowledgeable ) the spoils of war
And we will know you later on by the losses of the unbelieving enemy and by information about this operation and a videotape related to them . Allah is the greatest and the honour to Allah and to its messenger and to the believers .
The military organization To Ansar Al-Sunna army 10 / Dhal Hijjah 1425 21/12/2004
Time to clean up Mosul, the religion of peace my @ss
The Brigade Support Battallion of the 1-25th Stryker Brigade is based at Marez along with other units.
A terrorist detonating himself.
I wonder, how will CNN/CBS and the NY Times make this into Rumsfelds' fault?
Should he have personally known about this and put a force field around all mess halls?
Obviously hes a bad SECDEF, he should be replaced immediately! (sarcasm)
Red6
Thanks, sounds like a plan.
This sounds like light artillery or heavy mortars, with a forward observer inside the base who knew when lunchtime would be. When troops go into garrison, even in a forward base like Mosul, they adopt routines that can play into the hands of the other side.
There will be several more days like this until the January 30th elections change all of this and bring a legitimate government to pass in Iraq. Warfare, after all, is a series of catastrophes that result in victory for one side or the other. We simply have to make sure that it is us. That doesn't make this reality any less painful, but it is the reality of where we are at as a nation.
Like it or not, the bad guys had a good day today. We have to acknowledge that, mourn our dead, and move forward, because in the end, if we get even something close to a democracy in Iraq, it is game over for the fascists.
Be Seeing You,
Chris
Thank you and yours. And I'm Dad, by the way, but I'll let Mom know.
I have a buddy over there doing some training of nationals in a camp on the outskirts of Mosul, hopefully not the camp that was just hit.
I just sent him an email asking about his status. Prayers up.
He states some of the biggest problems are that...
1. In many cases you can't tell friendlies from the enemy.
2. The camp is constantly getting shelled, mortared, and the like. The terrorists are bound to get 'lucky' from time to time.
I was replying to a post about a possible 'lucky first hit' mortar attack, before all the details were known.
I wondered the same thing since it's bash Rummy week!!
I think that is the operative word in the above paragraph.
This has all the hallmarks of something that would be carried out by the group formerly known as Ansar al-Islam.
Or Hezbollah.
DUBAI (AFP) - The Al-Qaeda linked Army of Ansar al-Sunna group claimed responsibility for an attack against a US military base in the Iraqi city of Mosul, which reportedly killed at least 22 people, in a statement attributed to it on an Islamist website.
"One of the mujahedeen of the Army of Ansar al-Sunna carried out a martyrdom-seeking (suicide) operation in a restaurant of the infidel occupation forces at the Ghazlani camp in Mosul," said the statement, whose authenticity could not be independently confirmed on Tuesday.
US media, citing Pentagon officials, said at least 22 people were killed and more than 50 injured in a lunchtime blast at the base in Mosul, the largest city in northern Iraq.
Fox News reported that three rockets slammed into a dining hall on the base.
Hey, I'll soon hit 2 years in theater. Can it really be that long since you were giving me hints on what to take? Wow...
Seen a thing or two. Heard a few things, stories that, well, we just won't repeat here.
And I'll have something for you yet, I promise!!
It appears the mess hall coordinates was zeroed. A base worker watches for congregating Americans at usual times. Then the infiltrator notes the exact target coordinates for the enemy gunners. The Enemy picks a day at their leisure to blast the target. Very easy to do.
You can be sure that Bush will get more blame than Rummy.
BTW, I don't fault Bush for going to war with Iraq. We had plenty of justification, even without WMD's and Saddam needed taken out. I also understand that we can't just attack a country and walk away to leave it in physical and political turmoil (or can we?).
BUT, I'm sure getting tired of seeing our soldiers die for a people that will hate us (infidels) no matter how this war turns out. I guess I'm just not as compassionate as Bush, because I don't feel compelled to save these folks.
I ain't offering solutions here. I'm just frustrated and ranting.
Well my suggestions may have prepped ya for the arrival and initial survival but yer the subject matter expert now with all that time in country so educate me when ya can !
My lil brother is headed over in the spring so any new and improved suggestions will be well recieved and relayed to him and his team.
Stay safe and let me know when / if I can help EE........
Why does everyone from the President on down believe that these attacks will magically stop after January 30th? Do we actually believe that the insurgents will stop fighting because of an election? Let's review all of the previous goalposts, the post invasion phase, end of major conflict, "NEGOTIATIONS" with Al Sadr (who is unbelievably on the Jan 30 ballot), Bremer pre-dawn swap-out, and lastly Fallujah. Attacks increased after all of these goal posts so why does our government believe that once we reach 30 January the insurgents will fade away?
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