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1 posted on 12/21/2004 1:46:55 AM PST by angkor
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Cool. I'm running Xandros 2.5 on a HP Pavilion Celeron notebook I paid $400 for four years ago. This price is tempting me to upgrade again. With Linspire, you get a full fledged Open Office.org suite and free software upgrades for three months! At $498 its a bargain since with Windows you have to shell out more for additional software. Linux rocks!!!


2 posted on 12/21/2004 1:51:06 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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The Balance laptop is compatible with other office and Internet suites like Microsoft Office and Internet Explorer, and can be used with more than 1,000 printers and hardware components. With the included office suite OpenOffice.org (www.linspire.com/openoffice), users can open, edit and exchange files such as word processing documents (.doc), spreadsheets (.xls) or presentations (.ppt) in a familiar, comfortable environment. The laptop's included Mozilla Internet suite (www.linspire.com/mozilla) comes with a fast-functioning browser and email program that can display Web-based forms, PDF documents, images, and multimedia files. The suite's included instant messenger program works with AOL, MSN and Yahoo! logins.

No sure this does DVD playback, but if they add a checkbook program, they probably would have 99 percent of what the average person uses a computer covered outside games. But really your game consoles are better for games anyways.

3 posted on 12/21/2004 1:55:14 AM PST by Always Right
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I'm waiting to hear how Wal-Mart, by making technology more affordable to consumers, is ruining this country....:)

If Wal-Mart ever decides to get into the automobile business, hoo-boy, the local shysters and "dealers" better look out.

8 posted on 12/21/2004 2:16:55 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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If anything, now first time computer buyers will learn you get what you pay for...The endless spiral of internet, online games, blogs and message boards, upgrades, needing to buy newer computers and service calls now begins with $498.....


9 posted on 12/21/2004 2:17:53 AM PST by Dallas59 ("A weak peace is worse than war" - Tacitcus)
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Couldn't find the 498...I found one selling on walmart.com for $548, though...

11 posted on 12/21/2004 2:20:02 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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http://www.webservertalk.com/message444851-1.html

Balance laptop = ChiCom rip off artists

Hello all,

If you look back through c.s.l you'll see I asked here about AMD's CPU
speed nomenclature because I bought one of Wal-Mart's "Balance"
notebooks, advertised as an Athlon XP-M 1800+, and found that it is
only running at 1.2GHz.

I've been in touch with a couple of other purchasers of this laptop
now, and one of them agreed to break his warranty seal and investigate
the ACTUAL part number etched on the CPU chip. He had the $598 model,
advertised as an "Athlon XP-M 1600+". The actual OPN on his CPU is
AHM1100AV53B, which if you refer to AMD's part# breakdown guide, is a
1.1GHz (not 1600+) mobile Athlon 4, not an XP-M.

The link to that guide is:
<http://www.amd.com/gb-uk/assets/con...n_Rev05_ENG.pdf>

In summary:

1. We have been sold an older-generation mobile Athlon 4, not the
current-generation mobile Athlon XP chip that was advertised.

2. The $598 machine sold as "1600+" is actually running at 1.1GHz,
which would make it a 1400+. It has been confirmed that it does not
have the advertised CPU in it.

3. The $698 machine sold as "1800+" is actually running at 1.2GHz,
which would make it a 1600+ if it was an XP-M. There was never a
mobile Athlon 4 made in the 1800+ speed rating, by the way. Although I
have not broken my warranty seal, I am sure that it will also not have
the advertised chip in it, based on the information above.

4. This is not an isolated one-off manufacturing error. The special
"Balance" BIOS (not available for download anywhere, but only to be
found preloaded on these machines) has been hacked to report false CPU
information on the POST screen. If you flash with the normal, generic
BIOS off ECS's web site, you see *actual* information about the chip.

I was in touch with Wal-Mart's customer service last week, and they
said they'd replace the unit. However that was before I found out the
above.

If you are affected by this issue, I encourage you to email me,
because I am going to be talking to the customer service manager for
walmart.com on Monday afternoon.

More pertinently, I would like someone who is still running with the
factory-shipped BIOS to use the "a535.exe" utility (which is really
just amiflash renamed) to save their BIOS to a file and email it to me
so that I can examine it. If someone could get it to me this weekend,
it would be a great thing.

Obviously I'm going to insist on a refund, and I'm sure Wal-Mart will
give it to me. Equally obviously, you're entitled to a refund too,
since you were shipped something other than what was advertised. But
more importantly we need to get the advertising pulled so that the OEM
who made this fraudulent product gets hit where it hurts.

Even more obviously: Do not buy this product!

 

15 posted on 12/21/2004 3:02:53 AM PST by dennisw (Help put the "Ch" back in Chanukah)
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Ping


18 posted on 12/21/2004 4:02:47 AM PST by chainsaw (("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - H. Clinton))
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How difficult is it for a reasonably competent windoze user to switch over to Linux?


19 posted on 12/21/2004 4:03:33 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Liberalism: The irrational fear of self reliance.)
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Not enough RAM, not enough speed, screen not big enough, no carrying case, no wireless technology and I bet it's a brick with a short battery life and an extra charge for a warranty. In short, a toy for high school students but completely unsuitable for university requirements.


27 posted on 12/21/2004 4:47:40 AM PST by finnigan2
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So, let me get this straight. Imported Chinese computers are okay when they don't run Windows. Does this mean that Wal-Mart is okay now?


36 posted on 12/21/2004 5:54:20 AM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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Dell ad in the WSJ today:

$599 for a laptop with 2.2Ghz/512MB and a CD burner

Much better deal.


38 posted on 12/21/2004 6:13:55 AM PST by smc
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Just picked up an HP ze4910 at Best Buy for my wife for Christmas.

15", 60GB, cd-rw/dvd, 512mb, built-in wireless for $699 after rebates (unfortunately, I do hate rebates).

I was literally surfing the net most of the night looking for deals and was a single submit button away from getting her a $900 Dell when I found this.

It's in the ballpark pricewise with it's features. Gave it to her early and she loves it.


49 posted on 12/21/2004 10:02:04 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Got Wood?)
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Is it an Intel based box? Can you Fdisk the hard drive?

I'm just curious, because most of my machines have Windoze loaded first, the I throw RH9 on top w/Grub, so I can boot Linux or Windows. And almost all of my Windows images have Cygwin running under them!

I admit I'm not crazy about X11 running under Cygwin, but hey, it works.


52 posted on 12/21/2004 10:09:28 AM PST by djf
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Cool, you can F-disk that garbage off and put your own owned copy of windows on and then enjoy the computer.


56 posted on 12/21/2004 3:07:22 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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The battle ha$ ju$t begun !


66 posted on 12/21/2004 6:29:07 PM PST by traumer
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Ha! Economics makes strange bedfellows.


68 posted on 12/21/2004 6:55:11 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (if a man lives long enough, he gets to see the same thing over and over.)
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