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To: angkor
http://www.webservertalk.com/message444851-1.html

Balance laptop = ChiCom rip off artists

Hello all,

If you look back through c.s.l you'll see I asked here about AMD's CPU
speed nomenclature because I bought one of Wal-Mart's "Balance"
notebooks, advertised as an Athlon XP-M 1800+, and found that it is
only running at 1.2GHz.

I've been in touch with a couple of other purchasers of this laptop
now, and one of them agreed to break his warranty seal and investigate
the ACTUAL part number etched on the CPU chip. He had the $598 model,
advertised as an "Athlon XP-M 1600+". The actual OPN on his CPU is
AHM1100AV53B, which if you refer to AMD's part# breakdown guide, is a
1.1GHz (not 1600+) mobile Athlon 4, not an XP-M.

The link to that guide is:
<http://www.amd.com/gb-uk/assets/con...n_Rev05_ENG.pdf>

In summary:

1. We have been sold an older-generation mobile Athlon 4, not the
current-generation mobile Athlon XP chip that was advertised.

2. The $598 machine sold as "1600+" is actually running at 1.1GHz,
which would make it a 1400+. It has been confirmed that it does not
have the advertised CPU in it.

3. The $698 machine sold as "1800+" is actually running at 1.2GHz,
which would make it a 1600+ if it was an XP-M. There was never a
mobile Athlon 4 made in the 1800+ speed rating, by the way. Although I
have not broken my warranty seal, I am sure that it will also not have
the advertised chip in it, based on the information above.

4. This is not an isolated one-off manufacturing error. The special
"Balance" BIOS (not available for download anywhere, but only to be
found preloaded on these machines) has been hacked to report false CPU
information on the POST screen. If you flash with the normal, generic
BIOS off ECS's web site, you see *actual* information about the chip.

I was in touch with Wal-Mart's customer service last week, and they
said they'd replace the unit. However that was before I found out the
above.

If you are affected by this issue, I encourage you to email me,
because I am going to be talking to the customer service manager for
walmart.com on Monday afternoon.

More pertinently, I would like someone who is still running with the
factory-shipped BIOS to use the "a535.exe" utility (which is really
just amiflash renamed) to save their BIOS to a file and email it to me
so that I can examine it. If someone could get it to me this weekend,
it would be a great thing.

Obviously I'm going to insist on a refund, and I'm sure Wal-Mart will
give it to me. Equally obviously, you're entitled to a refund too,
since you were shipped something other than what was advertised. But
more importantly we need to get the advertising pulled so that the OEM
who made this fraudulent product gets hit where it hurts.

Even more obviously: Do not buy this product!

 

15 posted on 12/21/2004 3:02:53 AM PST by dennisw (Help put the "Ch" back in Chanukah)
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To: dennisw

marking for later info on the quest...


20 posted on 12/21/2004 4:06:43 AM PST by ChefKeith ( I shoot every third sales person... and the second just left. Do you feel LUCKY?)
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To: dennisw

Can you say class action?


24 posted on 12/21/2004 4:41:20 AM PST by appeal2
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To: dennisw

I saw this on another site the other day. Think it was a site selling an Athlon XP 3200+, then reporting the cpu speed as below what the 3200 should be. Will have to wait for kiddo to get back up; he remembers everything.


26 posted on 12/21/2004 4:47:32 AM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: dennisw

Hey, wait a minute. Don't do anything just yet, let me run out and buy one so I can get in on the class action suit too.


42 posted on 12/21/2004 6:43:06 AM PST by OKSooner
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