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Martian Water Vapor and Methane Overlap in Equatorial Regions (Formaldehyde!?)
Earth Files ^ | 2004 | Linda Moulton Howe

Posted on 12/18/2004 7:56:02 AM PST by theFIRMbss

Part 1: Martian Water Vapor and Methane Overlap in Equatorial Regions

© 2004 by Linda Moulton Howe

"A symbiosis of methanogenic bacteria with methanothrophic bacteria in the Martian underground can be an alternative interpretation (to geothermal) and looks more likely." - Vittorio Formisano, Ph.D.

[Graph of methane and water overlaps] New in-depth analysis of PFS data by European Space Agency confirms that methane is not uniform in the Martian atmosphere, but concentrated in some areas. The PFS team observed that the areas of highest concentration of methane overlap with the areas where NASA identified water vapor and underground water ice are also concentrated. This spatial correlation between water vapor and methane seems to point to a common underground source. Spectra of red-colored atmospheric CH4 methane and other gases, and W water vapor, from European Space Agency (ESA).

September 20, 2004 Ischia Island, Italy - Today at the International Mars Conference held September 19-23, by the Italian Space Agency, physicist Vittorio Formisano, Ph.D., presented results from his analysis of the Martian atmosphere in a paper entitled, "Observation of Methane, Formaldehyde and HS (hydrogen sulfide): Extant Life On Mars?" Dr. Formisano designed the Planetary Fourier Spectrometer (PFS) for placement on the European Space Agency's Mars Express Orbiter. Back on May 6, 2004, when I interviewed him for Earthfiles and radio, he said his PFS data indicated molecules of formaldehyde in the Martian atmosphere and told me, "Formaldehyde is destroyed in the Martian atmosphere within 7.5 hours. There is no way that formaldehyde can exist and remain for a long time in the Martian atmosphere. If (formaldehyde) confirmed, possibly life on Mars today, yes."

This was Dr. Formisano's first formal presentation about his Mars Express PFS analysis, after he failed to make an expected presentation at the July 22, 2004, Committee On Space Research (COSPAR) meeting in Paris (See: 07-22-04 Earthfiles). Speculation was in July that his formaldehyde data, combined with methane and water vapor together in significant amounts, might suggest some underground process that continues to release formaldehyde and methane on Mars.

Now, even his Ischia Island conference paper acknowledges observations of formaldehyde in its title. But he is preparing to publish his data in a scientific journal and does not want to jeopardize that publication, so he would only talk generally today about formaldehyde. "We have identified the correlation between the previous NASA-identified permafrost and the atmospheric water vapor which indicates presence of a process - mainly sublimation of ice into water vapor - which also brings methane with it. This is the main message of today."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: mars; science; space
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1 posted on 12/18/2004 7:56:02 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: theFIRMbss
Here's the graph that goes
with the above text. I had
strange browser glitches . . .


2 posted on 12/18/2004 7:58:00 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: KevinDavis; blam

Ping


3 posted on 12/18/2004 8:03:19 AM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: theFIRMbss

Hmmm 7.5 hours. Where are all you "You are an idiot if you think there is life out there!!" folks?


4 posted on 12/18/2004 8:04:25 AM PST by SengirV
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To: theFIRMbss

My trip to Mars is on hold until they clear this up and the screeners at the airport are removed!


5 posted on 12/18/2004 8:09:20 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: theFIRMbss
Aluminum carbide, which can be produced by heating minerals containing aluminum and carbonates, will produce methane when exposed to moisture.

Same idea as calcium carbide used in carbide cannons, which produces acetylene when exposed to moisture.

There are countless examples of naturally occurring minerals that under go "life like" reactions.

There are plenty of possible exploitations for these gases, but only the ones involving life on Mars will get those "scientists" the publicity and government grants they seek.
6 posted on 12/18/2004 8:10:49 AM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: SengirV

Sengir. You are an idiot if you think there is life out there. :0)



7 posted on 12/18/2004 8:12:31 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: agere_contra

You are an idiot if you are CERTAIN there is life out there.


8 posted on 12/18/2004 8:21:19 AM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: theFIRMbss

Formaldehyde!? That could be dangerous to Martian frogs.


9 posted on 12/18/2004 8:33:37 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (GWB-elected, not selected.)
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To: theFIRMbss

Go to: enterprisemission.com (top of page) (same topic)


10 posted on 12/18/2004 8:35:42 AM PST by Finalapproach29er (You can drive from coast to coast and never pass through a single county won by Kerry.)
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To: Born to Conserve
areas of highest concentration of methane overlap with the areas where NASA identified water vapor and underground water ice are also concentrated

Cows need water.
Methane is highest where water is.
Cows produce methane.
There are cows on Mars.

QED

11 posted on 12/18/2004 8:42:29 AM PST by OSHA (OSHA, the Grand Wizard and Chief Executive Fascist of FreeperWorld- Industries LLC)
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To: theFIRMbss

George Noory and Richard Hoagland will make this out to be a big government coverup to hide the truth about an advanced martian civilization. 'Nuther bong-hit Richard?


12 posted on 12/18/2004 8:46:05 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Born to Conserve
Aluminum carbide, which can be produced by heating minerals containing aluminum and carbonates, will produce methane when exposed to moisture.

Reliance of a single absorption line (The C-H Stretch) to identify methane, or anything else is simply bad spectrophotometry. It can work in something mundane as Auto Exhaust analysis because the reactants and kinetics are known. Nothing is really known aboutthe sample they are trying to analyze-its identity, source, its precursors, etc. It PROBABLY is methane. But it might not be.

13 posted on 12/18/2004 8:56:10 AM PST by Gorzaloon (INFURIATE a Liberal: + MERRY CHRISTMAS! + Gloria, In Excelsis Deo+)
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To: OSHA
The question of what kind of life on Mars has been scientifically resolved. There may be more we can deduce.

Since there are cows
cows have milk
milk goes in jugs
jugs are another pejorative term for breast
Breasts are part of a chicken

Chickens also exist on mars.

There is no way to refute this.
14 posted on 12/18/2004 9:08:23 AM PST by commonguymd (the commonguy's corner bar blogspot - http://commonguyva.blogspot.com)
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To: commonguymd
Since there are cows
cows have milk
milk goes in jugs
jugs are another pejorative term for breast

That means there are Hooters restaurants on Mars to eat roast beef sandwiches.When does the next rocket leave?

15 posted on 12/18/2004 9:30:11 AM PST by carlr (Libs are too easy,every position they take contradicts the one before it.)
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To: SpaceBar

I am a member of a state chapter of MUFON.

I think there is something going on out there.

I have been on George Nouri's show before he went national...

That being said. I have met Richard Hoagland. He is a buffoon with a massive case of ego-inflation. If he told me the sky was blue, I would walk outside to check.

nuff said.


16 posted on 12/18/2004 10:38:00 AM PST by Keith (NOW, MORE THAN EVER....IT'S ABOUT THE JUDGES!)
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To: Don Corleone
>My trip to Mars is on hold until they clear this up and the screeners at the airport are removed!

My trip to Mars is
on hold until I can get
Sharon Stone to come . . .


17 posted on 12/18/2004 11:04:22 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: SengirV

>> Hmmm 7.5 hours. Where are all you "You are an idiot if you think there is life out there!!" folks? <<

Well, NASA did confirm that cross-"contamination" between Earth and Mars was possible through meteor strikes. But if there *is* life on Mars, it's obviously already been dissected by a high-school biology lab class.


18 posted on 12/18/2004 11:04:26 AM PST by dangus
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To: theFIRMbss

>>My trip to Mars is on hold until I can get Sharon Stone to come ...<<

Please do not make obscene responses to this statement. :^)


19 posted on 12/18/2004 11:06:20 AM PST by dangus
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To: SengirV
"Where are all you "You are an idiot if you think there is life out there!!" folks?"

They're over on another thread arguing that the earth is only 6,000 years old.

20 posted on 12/18/2004 11:08:29 AM PST by blam
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