Posted on 12/17/2004 9:28:49 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
A.)Lesbians:
1.) Women are four times more likely to be victims of domestic violence in a lesbian household than in a married household.(Claire Renzetti, Violent Betrayal)
2.) Marrried women in traditional families experience the lowest rate of violence compared with women in other types of relationships ("Violence Between Intimates," Bureau of Justice Statistics Selected Findings, November 1994, p.2)
3.)Among lesbians, "rates of verbal, physical, and sexual abuse were all significantly higher in their prior lesbian relationships than in their prior heterosexual relationships: 56.8% had been sexually victimized by a female, 45% had experienced physical aggression, and 64.5% experienced physical/emotional aggression." (1991 survey of 350 lesbians, 75% of whom had been in a previous relationship with a man) (Donald G. Dutton "Patriarchy and Wife Assault: The Ecological Fallacy Violence and Victims. Vol 9, Number 2., 1994. Page(s) 167-178.)
4.) A survey of 1,099 lesbians found that more than half reported that they had been abused by a female lover/partner. This includes verbal, emotional, psychological, and physical abuse. (Gwat Yong Lie and Sabrina Gentlewarrior, "Intimate Violence in Lebian Relationships: Dicussion of Survey Findings and Practice Implications, "Journal of Social Service Research 15 (1991): 41-59)
5.) Levels of abuse run higher among lesbians than they do homosexual men.
a.)44% of gay men reported having experienced violence in their relationships, 13% reported sexual violence and 83% reported emotional abuse.
b.)55% of lesbians reported physical violence in their relationships, 14% reported sexual abuse, and 84% reported emoytional abuse. (Study of 499 ethnically diverse homosexual, bisexual and transgendered teenagers and adults) (Susan C. Turrell "A Descriptive Analysis of same-Sex Relationship Violence for a Diverse Sample" Journal of Family Violence. Vol. 13, 2000. Page(s) 281-293)
B.)Heterosexual women:
1.)There is evidence from a variety of sources that women are more violent in a domestic setting while men wage war globally. The Revs. Sewell point out in their recent report that:
"We think it is important to note that there have been the same kind of studies done in many countries. there is cross-cultural verification that women are more violent than men in family settings. When behavior has cross-cultural verification it means that it is part of human nature rather than a result of cultural conditioning. Females are most often the perpetrators in spousal violence in most cultures that have been studied to date."
2.) Susan Steinmetz, Ph.D. a leading researcher in the filed of family violence, has done a cross-cultural comparison of marital abuse. Using a modified version of the Conflict Tactics Scale (CTS), she examined marital violence in small samples from six socities: Finland, United States, Canada, Puerto Rico, Belize, and Israel. Her results suggest that "...in each society the percentage of husbands who used violence was similiar to the percentage of violent wives." The major exception was Puerto Rico where men were more violent. She also found that: "Wives who used violence...tended to use greater amounts."(Steinmetz, S.K. A Cross Cultural Comparison of Marital Abuse, Journal of Sociology and Social Welfare, 8, 404-414, 1981)
3.) A 1988 survey of couples in Canada by Brinkerhoff and Lupri found the same pattern. They examined interspousal violence in a representative sample of 562 couples in Calgary, Canada. they used the CTS and found twice as much severe violence where females assaulted males, 11%, as male assaulting female, 5%.(Brinkerhoff and Lupri, Interspusal Violence. Canadian Journal of Sociology, 13, p. 407-434, 1988)
All of the above referenced studies can be found at http://www.dvmen.org/dv-38.htm
4.)In Bland and Orn's study, 73.4% of a sample of 616 women said they were the first to use physical violence. (Bland, R. and Orn, H. Family Violence and Psychiatric Disorder, Canadian Journal of Psychiatry, 31, p. 129-137, March, 1986)
The bibliography for B.) 1-4 can be found at http://www.dvmen.org/dv-183.htm
5.) The data from 3 studies: one in 1975, one in 1985, and one done in 1992.
Results:
The scientifc data for the three studies, expressed as a rate per 1,000 couples:
Minor violent acts:
1. Threw something 2. Pushed/Grabbed/Shoved 3. Slapped or spanked
Severe Violent Acts:
1. Kicked/bit/hit with fist 2. Hit, tried to hit with object 3. Threatened with gun or knife 4. Beat up 5. Used gun or knife
Minor Assaults by husband/ by wife 1975 98/77 1985 82/75 1992 92/94
Severe Assaults by husband/ by wife 1975 38/47 1985 30/43 1992 19/44
1975 study: (Behind Closed Doors: Violence In the American Family, Anchor Press, Garden City, NY)
1985 study: (Strauss and Gelles, Journal of Marriage and the Family, August 1986)
1992 study: (Murray A. Straus and Glenda Kaufman Kantor. 13th World Congress of Sociology, July 19, 1994)
Table was prepared using the data from ("Change in Spouse Assault Rates From 1975 to 1992: A Comparison of Three National Surveys In The United States" By Murray A. Straus and Glenda K. Kantor.)
Average results of three studies:
Husbands report they have been severely assaulted by wives: 32 per 1000.
Wives report they have been severely assaulted by Husband: 22 per 1000.
If one will take the time to peruse these studies, as well as the numerous studies at http://www.dvmen.org/dv-39.htm one will find:
1.) No evidence that a patriarchal society has any direct influence on family violence.
2.)There is no direct relationship between structural patriarchy and wife assault.
3.)Battering in lesbian couples is much more frequent than heterosexual battering and lesbian relationships are significantly more violent than gay relationships.
These and other studies show that, domestically, lesbian women are the most violent, heterosexual women 2nd most violent, homosexual men 3rd most violent, and heterosexual men are the least violent.
What Idiots? Look in the mirror, please.
What don't you understand about a woman being four times more likely to be abused by a lesbian partner than a woman being abused by her husband?
LOLOLOL
According to the studies, it looks like men are the ones getting bashed more often than women, though your personal attack on science is noted.
If the attack was directed at me, why is it 'woman bashing' to tell the truth, and scientifically at that?
Looks like you would Rather this be buried.
Women experience significantly more partner violence than men do. According to survey estimates, approximately 1.5 million women and 834,700 men are raped and/or physically assaulted by an intimate partner annually in the United States. Because women are also more likely to be injured by intimate partners, research aimed at understanding and preventing partner violence against women should be stressed.
--Violence against women is primarily partner violence: 76 percent of the women who were raped and/or physically assaulted since age 18 were assaulted by a current or former husband, cohabiting partner, or date, compared with 18 percent of the men.
However, the U.S. Department of Justice Bureau of Justice Statistics published a report in May, 2000 which sheds some light on part of domestic violence. Their report is based on their own surveys (National Crime Victimization Survey), and on data from the FBI (homicide data). In their report they define domestic violence as violent crimes by current or former spouses, boyfriends, and girlfriends. Violent crimes include lethal (homicide) and nonlethal (rape, sexual assault, robbery, aggravated assault, and simple assault) offenses. From their data, we can say that in 1998, women experienced at least 900,000 violent offences at the hands of an intimate, and men were victims of at least 160,000 violent crimes by an intimate partner. Their report did not mention emotional abuse, harassment or stalking.
So, more than 1 million violent crimes were committed against persons by their current or former spouses, boyfriends, or girlfriends. To view the report, go to Intimate Partner Violence 16
Gender trends: Women make up 3/4 of the victims of homicide by an intimate partner. Actually, 33% of all women murdered (of course, only cases which are solved are included) are murdered by an intimate partner. Women make up about 85% of the victims of non-lethal domestic violence. In all, women are victims of intimate partner violence at a rate about 5 times that of males. 16
Nearly one-third of American women (31 percent) report being physically or sexually abused by a husband or boyfriend at some point in their lives. –Commonwealth Fund survey, 1998 Estimates range from 960,000 incidents of violence against a current or former spouse, boyfriend, or girlfriend each year to 4 million women who are physically abused by their husbands or live-in partners each year. – Violence by Intimates: Analysis of Data on Crimes by Current or Former Spouses, Boyfriends, and Girlfriends, U.S. Department of Justice, March, 1998
http://www.ndvh.org/dvInfo.html
Females are victims of family violence at a rate at least 3 times that of males.
(Bureau of Justice Statistics, Highlights from 20 years of Surveying Crime Victims (p25.) http://www.actabuse.com/dvstats.html
I will. You can also do your part in getting the truth out.
right before my divorce my ex tried to hit me and i caught her fist, she called the police and i was dragged in for grabbing her. the charges were dropped, however the rumours of me beating my wife flew out of proportion. guess i should have taken the hit
False.
Are there any other kinds?
"What idiots, only women in lesbian relationship...therefore only women abused."
LOL!...I m with u on this one. This is pure lol stuff.
A lot of crap get passed on in the name of "science".
It only a statistical survey and and in all such surveys there are plenty of confounding factors which are not all that apparent.
Assexual?
All they have to do is look at Emergency Room records. Look at all those men coming in black-and-clue and with broken bones! You never see a woman beat up by her boyfriend or husband! The safest thing for guys to do is marry a docile Asian or Russian woman. American women are terrible! ROTFL
Thanks for the ping. Read later bump.
No offense, but you're not clear about your methodology, so it's difficult to tell whether you selectively chose these articles or not.
I don't want to know...
My ex-girlfriend was pretty violent. I was at her house once and she got upset and threw a $445 Thomas Kinkade painting at me.
"1.) Women are four times more likely to be victims of domestic violence in a lesbian household than in a married household.(Claire Renzetti, Violent Betrayal)"
I would think women would also be more likely to be perpetrators of domestic violence in a lesbian household than in a married household, considering there are twice as many women in a lesbian household as in a married household. I wonder how they categorized the married lesbian households in Massachusetts. LOL
Corlorde,
Your first bolded listing is affected dramatically from female on female violence. Yes, women are far more likely to assault women than men are men in an intimate setting.
Your second bolded listing lists cohabting partner, which includes other women. It also lists the ones who WERE assaulted, not that 76% of all women are assaulted. Men are far more likley to report assault, that is why confidential, sociological and cross-cultural studies like the ones I listed are far more accurate.
Your third bolded listing and the others also do not take into account that men are far less likley to report abuse than women are.
That is why Bureau Statistics, which you gave, are less accurate than sociological and cultural studies. They are less accurate than personal studies and interviews which have a far less rate of error.
None of your studies were long-term studies, either.
You would be wise to pay attention more to long-tem studies, which I provided and you did not.
You would be wise to pay attention more to sociologically, culturally, and cross-culturally based studies which I provided and you did not.
You would be wise to pay attention to randomly-based confidential, personal interviews, which have a much lower rate of error than do your reliance on jujst Bureau Statistics. Men are far lees likley to report abuse. But they will talk about it in sociological interviews, cross-cultural and cultural interviews, and poersonal studies. That is why my studies which I listed are FAR SUPERIOR to yours.
Have a good one.
Is this some strange blame Bush thread?
Corlorde,
No, its true.
Go to post #57. Your argument has been shredded.
Anyone who ahs been involved in sociological and cross-cultural research as well as personal interviews and studies will learn that they are far more accurate indicators than Bureau Statistics which are drawn primarilly FROM POLICE RECORDS!
POLICE records compile REPORTED instances of abuse.
Men are far less likely to report abuse to the police as women are, idiot.
As I stated the studies that I listed are far more accurate.
There could be women who used to be men but later found that they were attracted to women so they became lesbians.
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