Posted on 12/15/2004 3:50:59 AM PST by jocon307
What I suspect may be a gathering storm on President Bush's horizon in 2005 is a confluence of factors that will force on Washington a fundamental immigration reform -- one that will seek to genuinely secure our borders. This is something that up until now neither the Republican Party nor the Democratic Party has wanted...
Adding piquancy to this legislative challenge for President Bush and the Republican-controlled Congress is the entrance from stage right of Hillary R. Clinton, 2008 Democratic Presidential Nominee, presumptive.
In the last few weeks the ever cold-blooded Miss Hillary has started to stake out a position to the right of the Republican Party. Just listen to her Pat Buchananesque defiance: "[I do] not think that we have protected our borders or our ports ... we can do more and we can do batter?I am, you know, adamantly against illegal immigrants... Clearly we have to make some tough decisions as a country, and one of them ought to be coming up with a much better entry-and-exit system so that if we are going to let people in for... work...lets have system that keeps track of them... People have to stop employing illegal immigrants."
These are hardly idle pensees coming from The Iron Maiden of Chappaqua. Rather, it is a part, and a big part, of her calculated strategy to shed her liberal image and seize the White House from the Republicans in 2008 by attacking them on the most vulnerable part of their right flank: open borders, illegal immigration and lax anti-terrorist security.
I never thought I would write the following words, but: God bless Hillary Clinton. Though her motives are cynical, their effects may well be vital both to our national security and to our sovereign responsibility to control our borders.
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Dane's point is totally reasonable, as is Bush's, about jobs Americans do not want to do.
People who scream about illegals do not want them legalized to do any of these jobs, either. They just want them and the entire impoverished country of Mexico to disappear as if into thin air. They scream about lawbreakers - those who sneak in to do this work - but they refuse to look at the horrible conditions in Mexico, the jobs here that we need done but our own people won't do, and the bad laws that for many, many, many years have allowed this insane situation to fester and grow. They would much rather curse the darkness than light a candle. And that means you.
I find Dane to be very clear in these comments, what he means and does not mean, while I find you to be putting words in other people's mouths and going all over the lot in your comments. But that is exactly what I expect from those of the thread-crasher mentality and this subject. By their fruit we shall know them.
You hit the nail on the head. There is more at stake than illegal imigration. Yes Bush can do better, but because Hillary says she is against Illegal Immigration doesn't she will do anything about it. Wake up folks!!!
"By their fruit we shall know them."
So true.
Thank you for your comments.
Those are called "starter jobs." American younguns used to take a starter job in college, where they would learn stuff that enabled them to get a better job.
But now dishwashing and janitorial work are beneath them, so let's import a squajillion adults from other countries to do the work that our able-bodied teens are "too good to do."
The point still stands that hillary is proving that quote(there is a sucker born every minute) correct by some of the comments of those on FR.
Dane wouldn't know an honest question if it bit him in the a$$. Don't bother discussing/arguing anything with him. ICYDK, he's one of the resident cranks around here. I don't think he has posted anything for quite a while.
Words are cheap. In the clinton's case, very very cheap.
Let her propose legislation that would immediately cut govt benefits to illegals, mandate exportation of criminal aliens immediately, and a quadrupling of Mexical border patrol agents, and THEN I will believe her.
placemark and with popcorn...
Maybe so, maybe no. I'm just here to tell people when they perpetuate urban legends.
She's taking the stand she does because she has nothing to lose. The people pushing amnesty are firms like wal-mart and the large food processing concerns, like Tyson, along with aggie-biz. None of those exist in any quantity in NY, which is still heavily union.
But now dishwashing and janitorial work are beneath them, so let's import a squajillion adults from other countries to do the work that our able-bodied teens are "too good to do."
Hey you stated it. That is what happened to our society. I started as a busboy and dishwasher when I was in high school, now it seems that high school kids would rather play with their playstation, although there are plenty of dishwashing jobs still out there.
I also mowed my families lawn, now a smart businessmen with an investment can do 15 lawns a day and make a nice living and do a better job in a half hour that I could do in 2 hours.
Is the man who started the lawn mowing business evil to you?
>>but they refuse to look at the horrible conditions in Mexico<<
Where in the Constitution does it say America is responsible for the living conditions in foreign countries? If they don't like living in horrible conditions, isn't it THEIR RESPONSIBILITY to change them?
Hillary Rodham Chameleon
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