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God bless Hillary Clinton (As she moves to the "right" against illegal immigration)
The Washington Times ^
| 12/15/2004
| Tony Blankley
Posted on 12/15/2004 3:50:59 AM PST by jocon307
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To: stopem; Dane
Dane's point is totally reasonable, as is Bush's, about jobs Americans do not want to do.
People who scream about illegals do not want them legalized to do any of these jobs, either. They just want them and the entire impoverished country of Mexico to disappear as if into thin air. They scream about lawbreakers - those who sneak in to do this work - but they refuse to look at the horrible conditions in Mexico, the jobs here that we need done but our own people won't do, and the bad laws that for many, many, many years have allowed this insane situation to fester and grow. They would much rather curse the darkness than light a candle. And that means you.
I find Dane to be very clear in these comments, what he means and does not mean, while I find you to be putting words in other people's mouths and going all over the lot in your comments. But that is exactly what I expect from those of the thread-crasher mentality and this subject. By their fruit we shall know them.
To: Tragically Single; All
You hit the nail on the head. There is more at stake than illegal imigration. Yes Bush can do better, but because Hillary says she is against Illegal Immigration doesn't she will do anything about it. Wake up folks!!!
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posted on
12/15/2004 5:12:00 AM PST
by
KevinDavis
(Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
To: txrangerette
"By their fruit we shall know them."
So true.
Thank you for your comments.
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posted on
12/15/2004 5:15:21 AM PST
by
stopem
To: Dane
As Pt Barnum said, there is a sucker born everyday.
Good try, but that's not what he said, and it wasn't Barnum who said it. The quotation is "There's a sucker born every minute," and it came from Barnum's competitor David Hannum, who first exhibited the Cardiff Giant, talking about the fools who paid to see Barnum's "fake" giant instead of his "real" one.
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posted on
12/15/2004 5:16:51 AM PST
by
Xenalyte
(Everything I need to know, I learned from the Bundys.)
To: txrangerette
about jobs Americans do not want to do.
Just exactly what jobs will Americans not do?
That 'defense' for illegals is BS.
There are Americans cleaning toilets. Maybe they don't like it and maybe they wish they could have better jobs, but there are Americans cleaning toilets.
There are Americans working in the fields harvesting, planting, etc. America was build on farming. There are Americans who work in the fields every day.
There are Americans cooking and serving in fast food restaurants every day.
There are Americans cleaning houses and babysitting kids.
Now, exactly what jobs will Americans not do? To say we have to import illegals to do jobs that Americans won't do is BS.
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posted on
12/15/2004 5:18:42 AM PST
by
TomGuy
(America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
To: Dane
Those are called "starter jobs." American younguns used to take a starter job in college, where they would learn stuff that enabled them to get a better job.
But now dishwashing and janitorial work are beneath them, so let's import a squajillion adults from other countries to do the work that our able-bodied teens are "too good to do."
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posted on
12/15/2004 5:18:51 AM PST
by
Xenalyte
(Everything I need to know, I learned from the Bundys.)
To: Xenalyte
Good try, but that's not what he said, and it wasn't Barnum who said it. The quotation is "There's a sucker born every minute," and it came from Barnum's competitor David Hannum, who first exhibited the Cardiff Giant, talking about the fools who paid to see Barnum's "fake" giant instead of his "real" one The point still stands that hillary is proving that quote(there is a sucker born every minute) correct by some of the comments of those on FR.
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posted on
12/15/2004 5:19:02 AM PST
by
Dane
(Trial lawyers are the tapeworms to wealth creating society)
To: stopem; Dane
"An honest question, do you think that modern American parents want their children to go into a career as a toilet cleaner or dishwasher, or are you going to be akin to an old communist commissar and mandate that they do."[?]
Dane wouldn't know an honest question if it bit him in the a$$. Don't bother discussing/arguing anything with him. ICYDK, he's one of the resident cranks around here. I don't think he has posted anything for quite a while.
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posted on
12/15/2004 5:19:06 AM PST
by
subterfuge
("Dems think 'Values' are what you get at WalMart"--subterfuge)
To: HoustonCurmudgeon
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posted on
12/15/2004 5:20:20 AM PST
by
B4Ranch
(((The lack of alcohol in my coffee forces me to see reality!)))
To: jocon307
Words are cheap. In the clinton's case, very very cheap.
Let her propose legislation that would immediately cut govt benefits to illegals, mandate exportation of criminal aliens immediately, and a quadrupling of Mexical border patrol agents, and THEN I will believe her.
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posted on
12/15/2004 5:20:41 AM PST
by
Edit35
To: durasell
placemark and with popcorn...
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posted on
12/15/2004 5:21:23 AM PST
by
Maigrey
(Prayer Warrior just a Ping away...)
To: Dane
What does "alledgy" mean? All edgy, as in antsy, perhaps? Or did you mean to type "allied guy" and forget a vowel or two?
Your point, and I think you have one, would be better expressed if you took two seconds to proofread your posts. Hell, clicking that Spell button to the left of Preview doesn't take that long.
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posted on
12/15/2004 5:21:23 AM PST
by
Xenalyte
(Everything I need to know, I learned from the Bundys.)
To: Dane
Maybe so, maybe no. I'm just here to tell people when they perpetuate urban legends.
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posted on
12/15/2004 5:22:21 AM PST
by
Xenalyte
(Everything I need to know, I learned from the Bundys.)
To: jocon307
I wonder if George Bush is using revers physiology to get the libs against immigration so he can tighten up the borders? I know its a stretch... lol
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posted on
12/15/2004 5:22:22 AM PST
by
todd1
To: MojoWire
She's taking the stand she does because she has nothing to lose. The people pushing amnesty are firms like wal-mart and the large food processing concerns, like Tyson, along with aggie-biz. None of those exist in any quantity in NY, which is still heavily union.
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posted on
12/15/2004 5:23:13 AM PST
by
durasell
(Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
To: Xenalyte
Defenders of the illegal amnesty tend to overlook the fact that Americans are subsidizing the illegals with health care, social services, and educational benefits, too. The illegals may work as cheap labor, but their subsidization by the rest of America makes up a great part of the difference.
It is interesting that the supporters of amnesty and defenders of illegals always forget to mention the billions of dollars in subsidies illegals get----at taxpayers' expense.
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posted on
12/15/2004 5:24:16 AM PST
by
TomGuy
(America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
To: Xenalyte
Those are called "starter jobs." American younguns used to take a starter job in college, where they would learn stuff that enabled them to get a better job. But now dishwashing and janitorial work are beneath them, so let's import a squajillion adults from other countries to do the work that our able-bodied teens are "too good to do."
Hey you stated it. That is what happened to our society. I started as a busboy and dishwasher when I was in high school, now it seems that high school kids would rather play with their playstation, although there are plenty of dishwashing jobs still out there.
I also mowed my families lawn, now a smart businessmen with an investment can do 15 lawns a day and make a nice living and do a better job in a half hour that I could do in 2 hours.
Is the man who started the lawn mowing business evil to you?
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posted on
12/15/2004 5:25:21 AM PST
by
Dane
(Trial lawyers are the tapeworms to wealth creating society)
To: txrangerette
>>but they refuse to look at the horrible conditions in Mexico<<
Where in the Constitution does it say America is responsible for the living conditions in foreign countries? If they don't like living in horrible conditions, isn't it THEIR RESPONSIBILITY to change them?
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posted on
12/15/2004 5:25:36 AM PST
by
B4Ranch
(((The lack of alcohol in my coffee forces me to see reality!)))
To: jocon307
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posted on
12/15/2004 5:26:00 AM PST
by
Slyfox
To: jocon307
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posted on
12/15/2004 5:26:17 AM PST
by
PGalt
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