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GOD THE FATHER... and liberal view for home abuse and violence against women.
Reuters, ABC ^
Posted on 12/10/2004 10:32:48 AM PST by Potomac
(...) GOD THE FATHER...
But some experts believe any male-dominated religion, in which God and his prophets or apostols are male figures, creates conditions for the subordination and abuse of women.
Predominantly Catholic Poland, although free from "honour killings", has a problem with violence against women, rooted in the strong influence of the Catholic church on public life, Polish minister for gender equality Magdalena Sroda said.
"Catholicism does not directly support or oppose violence against women. But there are indirect links through culture which is strongly based on religion," Sroda told Reuters.
"It is a structure based on patriarchal domination of God the Father and the less important role of woment can be seen for example in the letters of Saint Paul," she said.
Asma Jahangir, U.N. Special Rapporteur on religious freedom, said many courts condoned patriarchial violence by letting the perpetrators get away with "a slap on the wrist".
"In 405 documented cases of honour killings in Afghanistan so far this year only 20 arrests were made," she said.
Zorayha Rahim Sobrany, deputy minister for Women's Affairs in Afghanistan, said the concept of women's equality to men was slow to take root, but that progress was being made.
"We need time. We must move step by step. If you go too fast, the reaction is that people close themselves," she said.
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: atheists; domesticviolence; familyvalues; homeabuse; honorkillings; libelarism; liberal; poland; polish; religion
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To: frog_jerk_2004
Catholicism does not directly support or oppose violence against women.<<<
Marriage signifies the union between Christ and the Church. I believe this alone would directly oppose the abuse of women. I know there must be more examples, just dont have a bible handy to look them up.
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posted on
12/10/2004 11:41:46 AM PST
by
hushpad
To: eleni121
When the wine ran out at the wedding, the hosts went to Mary first. She then told them to "ask my son".
42
posted on
12/10/2004 11:51:30 AM PST
by
massgopguy
(massgopguy)
To: eleni121
When the wine ran out at the wedding, the hosts went to Mary first. She then told them to "ask my son".
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posted on
12/10/2004 11:52:57 AM PST
by
massgopguy
(massgopguy)
To: No_Outcome_But_Victory
"BULLCOOKIES!" Will have to remember that one.
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posted on
12/10/2004 12:06:45 PM PST
by
tob2
(Old Fossil and Proud of It!)
To: massgopguy
"When the wine ran out at the wedding, the hosts went to Mary first. She then told them to "ask my son"."
Powerful stuff! Thanks!
45
posted on
12/10/2004 12:30:41 PM PST
by
eleni121
To: Potomac
Ok. So I guess we have to tell God that He got it all wrong?
46
posted on
12/10/2004 12:32:24 PM PST
by
Skooz
(The "holiday" has a name.)
To: frog_jerk_2004
Heck, Islam has an official procedure on how to beat your wife and/or other related women folk.
47
posted on
12/10/2004 12:56:06 PM PST
by
Jaded
((Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain))
To: TheSpottedOwl; netmilsmom
Did Poland reach its nadir under Communist domination, or when it appointed a "Minister for Gender Equality"? O, ne Zot, the Polish jokes I could make from this ...
48
posted on
12/10/2004 12:57:40 PM PST
by
Tax-chick
(Benedicere cor! Quomodo cogis comas tuas sic videri?)
To: The_Victor
Someone is looking for an excuse to blame religion for society's ills.Sinead O'Connor did it, it help her notariety too.
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posted on
12/10/2004 12:57:54 PM PST
by
Jaded
((Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain))
To: NYer
The Goal of the Feminist is to have the acceptance of Married Priests, then the acceptance of Female Priests and of course the Ultimate goal is the acceptance of Homosexuals. Why this facination with the acceptance of homosexuals. God says very strongly and pointedly that this is an ABOMINATION to God.
The idea that God is a Male figure is so irretationg to the Feminist and the idea the GOD made Women to be subserviant to man, because of Eve's interaction with Satan and with the eating of the Apple.
The Disobedience that Eve displayed to the Lords one and only Rule, Do not eat the forbidden fruit from the Tree. Eve's punishment was that she was to be forever under the rule of the Male. To bear children and of course "The Monthly Curse as it is known by some women, or the Blessing, depending upon your point of view.
So one again, women are disobeying the word or the laws of God!! Supporting the Homosexual Agenda, the proponents of Gay Priests, or preachers and bishops!. I wonder what their fate will be this time when the Wrath of the Lord comes upon them! Many in the Feminist MOvement deny God to begin with and theirfore do not Fear the Lord. The Homosezuals certainly do not fear the Lord.
They try to convience us that we must accept their lifestyle and that they are also God's Children. Big surprise, Many will come be few will be invited. God wept at the tremendous, uncountable numbers of souls that were reprobats, did not head the word of the Lord or keep his laws. Would not repent of their sins and beg for the love and forgiveness of God. They are now trying to get us the sinners who are doing their very best to stay in this side of the Lord to eat once again of the Forbidden Fruit and and reject the Laws of God, by accepting their way of life as normal and they as children of the Lord >>> Which They Are NOT!!
To: 26lemoncharlie
The Disobedience that Eve displayed to the Lords one and only Rule, Do not eat the forbidden fruit from the Tree. Eve's punishment was that she was to be forever under the rule of the Male. To bear children and of course "The Monthly Curse as it is known by some women, or the Blessing, depending upon your point of view. You honestly believe that women menstruate because Eve (and Adam, of course) ate the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil?
p.s., Here's an extra apostrophe: '
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posted on
12/10/2004 1:05:19 PM PST
by
Tax-chick
(Benedicere cor! Quomodo cogis comas tuas sic videri?)
To: fritzz; rrrod; Constitution Day; NYC GOP Chick; Fiddlstix
The Homosezuals certainly do not fear the Lord ... God wept at the tremendous, uncountable numbers of souls that were reprobatsTypso ping, FRiends ... also "the Cat is Standing on my Shift Key!" Happy Friday, and have a great weekend!
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posted on
12/10/2004 1:09:01 PM PST
by
Tax-chick
(Benedicere cor! Quomodo cogis comas tuas sic videri?)
To: ultima ratio
That is why I will never trust a church body that allows women on the pulpit.
ECUSA, ELCA, Methodists, etc. all accept abortion, homosexuality, and are desperately trying to drive out Christ from Christianity. All began to accelerate down the slippery slope when they started ordaining women.
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posted on
12/10/2004 1:27:12 PM PST
by
redgolum
(Molon labe)
To: Potomac
"Catholicism does not directly support or oppose violence against women. But there are indirect links through culture which is strongly based on religion," Sroda told Reuters.
Oh baloney..is that why all the families in my Irish Catholic lines were matriarch? Give me a small break. This is soooo ignorant. My Irish Grandfathers favorite saying, "Each day I can say I am the captain of my own ship..as long as I ask my wife first."
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posted on
12/10/2004 2:03:35 PM PST
by
Earthdweller
(US descendant of French Protestants)
To: ultima ratio
Oh please! Could you please send me a link to the article about Fathers??? I need it for my hubby.
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posted on
12/10/2004 2:19:49 PM PST
by
netmilsmom
(Zell on DEM Christianity, "They can hum the tune, but can't sing the song.")
To: Tax-chick
(I had to look up nadir!)
I have no clue, but I have to tell you that every true Polish family I know is ruled, as my old Pollack Mamma once said, with an iron fist in a velvet glove. Women rule the family. Most Polish men adore their children and the idea of Family more than the idea of being king of it.
Bobcia will smack a daughter who does not treat her husband right and beat a man who will not treat her daughter well. My mother got clunked in the head with a wooden spoon for telling my dad to change a diaper.
"You ask, you don't tell," said Bobcia, "Men will NEVER do as they are told. Women will always get when they ask. If not, point him to me."
I find that it continues to my own home. I will not tell my girls nor my husband to do something. I always ask. I have yet to be disappointed. And my poor hubby with a dominating mother, is putty because I don't tell him what to do.
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posted on
12/10/2004 2:31:41 PM PST
by
netmilsmom
(Zell on DEM Christianity, "They can hum the tune, but can't sing the song.")
To: netmilsmom
Sounds like a fun family!
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posted on
12/10/2004 2:42:48 PM PST
by
Tax-chick
(Benedicere cor! Quomodo cogis comas tuas sic videri?)
To: Tax-chick
Isn't Poland part of the EU? If so, this may be where this government position originated from. That, and they'll try and do to the Church what the commies couldn't.
Minister for Gender Equality....hahahaha!
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posted on
12/10/2004 4:25:09 PM PST
by
TheSpottedOwl
("In the Kingdom of the Deluded, the Most Outrageous Liar is King".)
To: TheSpottedOwl
It would be really sad, if it weren't so funny. Or do I mean the opposite?
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posted on
12/10/2004 4:52:57 PM PST
by
Tax-chick
(Benedicere cor tuo! Quomodo cogis comas tuas sic videri?)
To: Potomac
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posted on
12/10/2004 7:23:23 PM PST
by
Modok
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