Posted on 12/10/2004 8:54:04 AM PST by SwordofTruth
Life is too short to be wasted on lies.
Evan Bayh - ESAD. You may think it's time to step out for the '08 campaign - but cut this kind of s*** out.
The Secretary of Defense is directly lying to his soldiers on issues of front-line life and death. Tell me again why he's not one of the departing cabinet members?
Uh oh, looks like Rummy's stepped in it this time. He should have said he didn't know, and he'd get back to the soldier on that question.
I don't get what is going on here. The Rock Island Arsenal in Rock Island, IL if fully capable of making the armor for the Humvee's but have not been asked to.
I disagree with Senator Dick Durbin about everything politically, but he wrote a letter to Rumsfeld stating that the RI Arsenal is ready, willing and able to make the needed armor. That is a good thing. Politics aside, I hope to see production increases and that the troops get whatever they need.
Making them is one thing...GETTING them there is another!
Owl_Eagle
"You know, I'm going to start thanking
the woman who cleans the restroom in
the building I work in. I'm going to start
thinking of her as a human being"
Humvee is a jeep replacement.......how many jeeps have been armored up over the past wars ? Zip, nada , none ! Our gun jeeps (M151's) had a pedistal mounted M60 and a passenger mounted M60. Now one can say oh yeah well we road into battle on horseback back when but that doesn't make the issue of not enough hardened humvess any better....I agree....but !
We're trying to replace tactics with a false sense of security IMO. Polidiots need to let our folks engage and eliminate the threat vs existing in a hardened facility or vehicle among the threat.
A hardened humvee will not stop an IED or even the old PG-2 series of RPG's much less the PG7 series and it's improvements over the years. We're attempting to run a gauntlet on a daily basis . Destroy the gauntlet. If troops are attacked every day on a standard resupply route then counter ambush ops need to be increased along with snipers moved into the areas to eliminate those planting IED's or civilians moving with any weapon other than a handgun for personal protection.
I am and will always be of the opinion that any modern military conflict should be over in less that 96 hours. We need to kick ass, break all the infastructure or power, water, communications and sewage. Blow the bridges, airfields and ports then leave. Walk away at that point. Let other communist/terrorist /socialist regimes clean up their own mess.
If they attack America or Americans again we'll be back and will whack em again and again and not play nation building for years at great cost to americans over a decade or so.
America payed a dear price on 9-11 and doesn't need to keep paying. Make our enemies pay......until we get medevil on them and theirs we subject ourselves to such long term misery and loss of our loved ones. Thats my rant on the matter, right or wrong it's just my opinion.
Stay safe !
The article says that both the production facility and the armor facility located in Ohio are capable of producing more units for the Army.
I wouldn't say that he is directly lying to them, I would say that he doesn't know what is going on with this issue and that's just as bad IMO.
Yes, it is indeed.
I've got a feeling that this is gonna be The Big One that brings Rummy down.
I hope it at the very least get's the proper armor to our troops.
We're attempting to run a gauntlet on a daily basis . Destroy the gauntlet.
Squantos
You betcha - my son-in-law is a Marine stationed over there. For him and all of our brave troops.
Most of the Hummers at my local National Guard have Canvas doors or no doors!
Yes, it is. The military budget is huge, but limited. They need a lot of things and what they end up acquiring on trade-off is based on military effectiveness. The reason for that is that the military must be able to accomplish their mission or they will be out of a job.
Dream on, babe, dream on!
$70,000.00 a pop for armor? I'm in the wrong business.
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