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A threat to vaporize 100 Muslim cities
WorldNetDaily ^ | 12-03-04 | David C. Atkins

Posted on 12/03/2004 11:00:39 PM PST by ChristianDefender

Back in the days of the Cold War, the U.S. had a nuclear-weapons doctrine called Mutual Assured Destruction, or MAD for short. This doctrine held that if the U.S. were attacked with weapons of mass destruction, or WMD, we would immediately and without debate counter-attack the homeland of the perpetrator in such a way and with such overwhelming nuclear force as to make the cost of the initial attack too much to bear.

For instance, if the Soviet Union or the Chinese would have attacked us with WMD in the Cold War, we would have counter-attacked at the very least by destroying their 100 largest cities. The theory was that once you have destroyed the 100 largest cities of any society, even an evil empire, that society effectively ceases to exist, perhaps for several generations, thus deterring any WMD attack. Variations of this same nuclear doctrine were held by our Cold War allies and advisories, including the evil empire.

Although gruesome sounding, the beauty of MAD is that it worked. Even though both the U.S. and the Soviet Union were armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons, none was ever used. In fact, both sides went to great lengths to establish hardened and redundant command, communication and control systems to prevent the accidental or unauthorized launch of nuclear weapons, fearing the dire consequences.

The primary reason MAD worked is because it was simple and unambiguous. Both sides let the other side know in no uncertain terms that a nuclear first strike would be followed immediately by an overwhelming nuclear counter-strike destroying the heartland, culture and society of the attacker. This was a price even the most evil 20th century dictators would not even contemplate.

We now have a new enemy, Islamic terrorism, hellbent to either enslave or destroy us. This enemy is in many ways much harder to cope with than an evil empire. It does not have an army, an economy, an infrastructure, a capital or a state to attack. This enemy refuses to show itself on the field of battle so we can destroy it with our superior weapons and tactics.

However, Islamic terrorism could not exist if it did not enjoy comfort, support and succor from the Islamic societies from which its members are recruited. Besides the overt state support from Syria, Iran, pre-invasion Iraq, Libya, Sudan, North Korea, etc., this enemy also enjoys popular support in Islamic states. The popular support of the terrorists is much larger than it is politically correct to discuss in most forums in the West. But, does anyone doubt that bin Laden would be elected dictator-for-life in Saudi Arabia if that nation had free elections? Let's not allow political correctness to blind us or kill us. The terrorists are merely an extreme form of widespread corruption, totalitarianism and venality prevalent in Islamic states and societies worldwide.

Now, here is the urgent problem. The Islamic terrorists are seeking nuclear weapons to destroy us. If and when they acquire a nuclear weapon with the help of their state sponsors, they will use it in the U.S. homeland without warning. Can you imagine the effect of just one nuclear weapon being detonated in New York or Washington? In addition to the initial horrific destruction and casualties, the U.S. economy and perhaps the world economy would go into a depression that would make the Great Depression seem like Sunday school. Investment would stop for fear of further nuclear attacks. If they have one, maybe they have more? Our wealth would be dramatically reduced, and the economy would be in chaos for at least a generation. The American way of life would be dramatically altered, perhaps permanently. In short, the Islamic terrorists would win.

The stakes are as high as can be, and our current strategy of planting democracy in the Middle East may work too slowly or not work at all. How do we prevent that first nuclear attack and mobilize the world, even the Islamic societies, against the terrorists' nuclear ambitions? We need a new nuclear doctrine that puts everybody's skin in the game. We need a new nuclear doctrine that places the American people, the American society, the American economy and the American way of life far above politeness and political correctness.

I propose that the U.S. immediately adopt and publish the following nuclear doctrine:

In the event of a WMD attack by terrorists on the U.S. homeland or U.S. military facilities overseas, the U.S will immediately and without discussion use its immense nuclear weapons capabilities to destroy the 100 largest Islamic cities on earth, regardless of state, and destroy all of the military facilities of Islamic-dominated states. This will include all of the capitals and at least the 10 largest cities of all Islamic-dominated states and the "holy" cities of Mecca and Medina. In addition, North Korean cities and military installations will be destroyed. Now suddenly everybody from Casablanca, Cairo, Damascus, Riyadh, Tehran, Islamabad, Pyongyang and Jakarta have skin in the game. The last thing they want would be a WMD attack on the U.S. It would mean certain destruction of their societies. They might even be motivated to actually and feverishly work against Islamic terrorism instead of the tepid lip service they currently give. Those "freedom fighters" currently being cheered in the streets would be transformed to deadly threats in the very societies that spawned them.

The beauty of this doctrine is that it encourages the 1.2 billion Muslims to actually prove that they are adherents to a "religion of peace," and it holds all Islamic states and North Korea accountable for their behavior. If you don't want your cities on the target list, you have to earn your way off the list. Give us the head of bin Laden on a stick, and you may get a pass. Shut down your nuclear programs in an open and verifiable way, and you can earn your way off the target list.

Another advantage of this doctrine is that it doesn't cost a nickel. We have the necessary weapons and delivery systems in place. This would only require a fraction of our existing nuclear warheads. I presume the platform of choice would be Ohio-class ballistic missile submarines patrolling the Indian Ocean.

Of course, the hand wringers, peaceniks and leftist elites would shout and scream bloody murder about how aggressive, unfair and politically incorrect this doctrine appears. However, I believe it would accomplish the same thing as MAD – namely, the successful deterrence of nuclear holocaust. All we need is the will to declare it.


TOPICS: Editorial; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: coldwar; islam; mad; muslims; napalminthemorning; nukes; religionofpeace; ropma; terror; wmd; wot
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To: ChristianDefender

...has my support. This needs to be followed by banning Islam from the US. Islam ins not a religion. It is a terrorist organization that has been infiltrating the non-islamic world as a phase of the islamic plan to rule the world.

Personally, I'd like to see a bounty on muslims.


481 posted on 12/04/2004 7:53:19 AM PST by ArmedNReady (Islam, the cancer on humanity....Let's kill it before it spreads any further.)
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To: JusPasenThru

The nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not "vengeful" actions, but sound strategic decisions that ended up saving countless American AND Japanese lives.


482 posted on 12/04/2004 7:54:39 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: PISANO

We need to take it soon to IRAN and North Korea for within 5-7 years they will become verifiably Nuclear Powers.



These are the two great tests. How decisively and effectively we deal with them will send a message to our enemies. The question is: does America mean business or not? So far, that message has been tentative and unconvincing.


483 posted on 12/04/2004 7:56:37 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Nateman

Please, don't confuse those spreading the love and grace of God.


484 posted on 12/04/2004 7:56:39 AM PST by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: ChristianDefender; BlueLancer; hleewilder; SideoutFred; Prophet in the wilderness; Nateman; ...
This is a good plan, and it would undoubtedly help us gather the intelligence we need to preempt the terrorists. Discussion of the proper way to implement this would be best, though, as I suspect it might be even more effective to inform the world that the first occasion would result in our destroying three cities, the second time twenty, the third occasion a hundred others or some such, with certain specific targets mentioned. The objective of this policy, and activity, is to gain useful intel - not, essentially, deterrance. Properly announced and publicized, a plan such as this is highly likely to be valuable in gaining better intel connections. My modification would be that if we were challenged, that we would give the unbelievers a chance to realize their impression of "Paper Tiger" is wrong.

Blue Lancer has been saying this for well over a year, or perhaps nearly as far back as a month or so after 9/11... Rather than awaiting his response, I am going to repost his eloquent statement: ---
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200 years from now, I want their children's children's children's children
to cower and cringe in fear whenever they hear the sounds of jet engines overhead
because their legends tell of fire from the sky.

I want them to hide in dark caves and holes in the earth,
shivering with terror whenever they hear the roar of diesel engines
because the tales of their ancestors talk about metal monsters
crawling over the earth, spitting death and destruction.

I want their mothers to be able to admonish them with
"If you don't behave, the Pale Destroyers will come for you",
and that will be enough to reduce them to quivering obesience.

I want the annihilation to be so complete that their mythology
will tell them of the day of judgment when the stern gods from across the sea
.. the powerful 'Mericans .. destroyed their forefathers' wickedness.

(Original created by BlueLancer ... 13 September 2001)
(Thanks to HiJinx for the accompanying pictures)

Perhaps Cronos is right about startig with Mecca and Medina... but then we make clear that if things don't straighten up after that others will follow.

485 posted on 12/04/2004 7:57:46 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: pete anderson; Strategerist

If we have any further significant attack on American interests, I can flat out guarantee that our next president will be the person who advocates a policy of this type, not some namby-pamby alternative. --- and that person will not get only 60 million votes, but nearer 90 million.


486 posted on 12/04/2004 8:00:24 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: narses

If a nuke is detonated in America, there can be no concern for civilians in this war. Our very existance is at stake. You can not fight an enemy who seeks your absolute destruction by worrying about innocent civilians. If Muslin society permits terorists to flourish amongst innocents then thay have only themselves to blame if America seeks retribution against such societies in the event of a horrifice attack on American soil. You see, the attack on Islamic Cities is not for revenge, but is neccesary to ensure no other nukes are launched against us.If Muslims realize that America means business and will vaporize them if such an attack happens then perhaps they will not allow terrorists to flourish in their midst.


487 posted on 12/04/2004 8:01:45 AM PST by nyconse
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To: nuconvert; traviskicks; Chemist_Geek; Luis Gonzalez

I must share the pain.


488 posted on 12/04/2004 8:04:50 AM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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To: ArmedNReady

Personally, I'd like to see a bounty on muslims.

Do you know there are no cash prizes for the stupid reply of the day?

"NO racism or violence in posts"


489 posted on 12/04/2004 8:12:20 AM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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To: Valin

On Babylon 5, wasn't it called the Great Burn?


490 posted on 12/04/2004 8:13:20 AM PST by Siobhan (Where is there justice in the gate...)
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To: Cronos

A highly pertinent FACT that you must not allow to escape you when doing any study of the Koran is that THE EARLY parts are the MOST "Sacred" and venerated to the cult. Those parts that came later, and are more moderate, are looked on as window dressing, and quite unimportant. Consequently, many look on those as demonstrating "religion of peace" statements, and the Islamists take advantage of that misconception.


491 posted on 12/04/2004 8:21:15 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Starboard
"We need to take it soon to IRAN and North Korea for within 5-7 years they will become verifiably Nuclear Powers."
    
We need to take it soon to IRAN and North Korea for within 5-7 years they will become verifiably Nuclear Powers.

492 posted on 12/04/2004 8:22:35 AM PST by Gengis Khan
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To: higgmeister; American in Israel

You're right, as is American in Israel's post#105... A second wave to anyone who complains about it. It DOES sound extreme, but it is not at all crazy to say that Civilization lies in the balance here - in fact, it is crazy to think that it is not. We are simply playing into their hand if we allow these terrorists to cow us.

I think you would enjoy this post:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1294166/posts?page=485#485


493 posted on 12/04/2004 8:25:26 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Gengis Khan
"We need to take it soon to IRAN and North Korea for within 5-7 years they will become verifiably Nuclear Powers."
   
oops sorry bout that! What i meant was we also need to take it to Pakistan they are ALREADY "Nuclear Powers"

494 posted on 12/04/2004 8:26:26 AM PST by Gengis Khan
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To: ChristianDefender

does this include Detroit?


495 posted on 12/04/2004 8:27:47 AM PST by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: ChristianDefender
Too bad they don't have 100 cities.
496 posted on 12/04/2004 8:31:39 AM PST by humblegunner (And who knows what else?)
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To: Melas

And just what is YOUR alternative? The Comfy Chair?


497 posted on 12/04/2004 8:35:31 AM PST by doberville (Angels can fly when they take themselves lightly)
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To: Starboard
"We need to take it soon to IRAN and North Korea for within 5-7 years they will become verifiably Nuclear Powers."
   
Goofed again! What i meant was we also need to take it to Pakistan they are ALREADY "Nuclear Powers"

498 posted on 12/04/2004 8:35:32 AM PST by Gengis Khan
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To: Happy2BMe

Thanks for the ping!


499 posted on 12/04/2004 8:36:24 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Siobhan

I don't know. As It's been many years since I've watched it.


500 posted on 12/04/2004 8:37:44 AM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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