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$7,524,963,287,269.27
http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpenny.htm ^ | http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpenny.htm

Posted on 12/01/2004 4:37:55 PM PST by soccer_linux_mozilla

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Well, I think they went for a song a while back there, fella. Must be under the C files at the Clinton library.


41 posted on 12/01/2004 5:03:38 PM PST by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch.)
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To: soccer_linux_mozilla

Your point is ........... ????


42 posted on 12/01/2004 5:05:34 PM PST by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: soccer_linux_mozilla

Hmmmm... just out of curiosity, I wonder what the asset side of the balance sheet looks like?


43 posted on 12/01/2004 5:06:40 PM PST by Jim Robinson (No more obstructionist Senate! Sixty in 06!)
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To: Jim Robinson

There you go, being reasonable. ;-D


44 posted on 12/01/2004 5:10:26 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Jim Robinson
I'm glad some of my fellow FReepers know allot about economics. I'm college educated, and I can barely grasp the science of it. Well, that could be because I didn't go to school to be an economist. I'm just glad guys like you are there for us non-econ class peeps(actually I took econ 101 but it was very basic stuff). lol
45 posted on 12/01/2004 5:12:12 PM PST by KoRn
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To: glock rocks
You'll chip in whatever Uncle tells you to... at gunpoint if necessary.

Of course. My $0.27 is merely a donation to the nation. Uncle can find it under the sofa cushions and car seats around my place. Believe me, Uncle has had his way with me otherwise, right between the cheeks.

46 posted on 12/01/2004 5:15:49 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: soccer_linux_mozilla

CHARGE IT!!!!


47 posted on 12/01/2004 5:19:53 PM PST by Twinkie
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To: soccer_linux_mozilla

Looks like we have been over $7 trillion for a while.


48 posted on 12/01/2004 5:27:34 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: soccer_linux_mozilla

I think I'll call my friend, Bono (lead singer of U2) and see if he's still on that "even the Bible says that every 50 years, a man's debt should be completely forgiven" crusade. Oh, wait, he was on that crusade to have the US forgive other debtors. Nevermind. /sarcasm of wishful thinking


49 posted on 12/01/2004 5:28:23 PM PST by hollywood (Stay on topic, please.)
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To: Glenn

It's only money.


50 posted on 12/01/2004 5:28:46 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Jim Robinson
I wonder what the asset side of the balance sheet looks like?

Well we could always sell Alaska to the Chinese, if that's what you mean.

51 posted on 12/01/2004 5:31:02 PM PST by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green

Hmmm... I dunno about that. Do you suppose they might be interested in Massachusetts?


52 posted on 12/01/2004 5:34:05 PM PST by Jim Robinson (No more obstructionist Senate! Sixty in 06!)
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To: Glenn
Debt is good. Debt is good. Debt is good.

Can you imagine how many liberal programs would be law if we didn't have such a large debt? The debt goes away once you pay it off, try to get rid of a government program!
53 posted on 12/01/2004 5:35:26 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: Jim Robinson
I think they already own Massachusettes.
Perhaps France might want Louisiana back, though.
It wouldn't cover the whole tab, of course.
But we oughta be able to get a couple hundred billion for it.
54 posted on 12/01/2004 5:40:59 PM PST by Willie Green
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To: REDWOOD99
Point, please.

Many old style conservatives believe that excessive government spending is wrong. Unfortunately, todays conservatives do not want to control government spending.

55 posted on 12/01/2004 5:44:15 PM PST by Doe Eyes (Who)
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To: Jim Robinson
For the U.S. government, you can find a simple balance sheet here.

Here are the 2002 and 2003 balance sheets:


The Federal Government's Balance Sheet, 2002 and 2003

(Billions of dollars)

  2002 2003

Assets
Cash and Monetary Assets 141.6 119.6
Receivables  
  Accountsa 32.0 33.8
  Loansa 219.2 221.1
  Taxes 21.4 22.9
Inventories and Related Propertya,b 192.2 241.2
Property, Structures, and Equipmenta,b 324.7 658.2
Other Assets 65.4 97.1
    Total Assets 996.5 1,393.9
           
Liabilities
Accounts Payable 55.8 62.2
Debt Held by the Public and Accrued Interest 3,573.2 3,944.9
Federal Employee and Veterans' Benefits 3,589.4 3,880.0
Environmental and Disposal Liabilities 273.0 249.9
Social Insurance and Other Benefits Due and Payable 95.3 100.0
Insurance Programsc 53.9 69.9
Loan Guarantees 28.1 34.6
Other Liabilities 148.0 157.1
    Total Liabilities 7,816.7 8,498.6
Net Position (Assets minus liabilities) -6,820.2 -7,104.7
      Total Liabilities and Net Position 996.5 1,393.9

Source: Congressional Budget Office based on Department of the Treasury, Financial Report of the United States Government (updated March 30, 2003), p. 58; Financial Report of the United States Government (February 27, 2004), pp. 62 and 123; and unpublished data from the Treasury's Financial Management Service.

Note: The balance sheets are figured as of September 30, the end of the government's fiscal year.

a. Reported on a net basis.

b. The amount for 2002 excludes the Department of Defense's holdings.

c. The category's title is somewhat misleading because the total for 2003 includes amounts for items such as retirement benefits owed to contractors working for the Department of Energy ($9.8 billion) and to the District of Columbia's teachers, police, and firemen ($8.3 billion).

For other bits of the economy, one good place to look is here.

In particular, you could find a number of non-governmental balance sheets in this file.

56 posted on 12/01/2004 5:52:22 PM PST by snowsislander
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To: soccer_linux_mozilla
Overspending is rampant. Bush needs to quit trying to appease the Rats--who still don't think we spend enough on their pet piece of the budget (while complaining too much is spent in the total budget).
57 posted on 12/01/2004 5:55:17 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: Willie Green

I think all the states should secede except for one.. maybe rhode island.. and leave rhode island with the debt.


58 posted on 12/01/2004 5:56:13 PM PST by wolfman
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To: soccer_linux_mozilla

Do you prefer to be on the side that owes the money or the side to whom the money is owed? If you prefer to be the debtor and owe the money, then do nothing. If you prefer to be the person that the money is owed to, then go buy some U.S. Savings Bonds.


59 posted on 12/01/2004 6:00:07 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: lowbridge

Why can't we just print more money? :^)


60 posted on 12/01/2004 6:06:33 PM PST by ljswisc
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