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Murder ... So What? Film Reveals Growing Callousness to Abortion
Agape Press ^ | November 22, 2004 | Ed Vitagliano

Posted on 12/01/2004 6:58:44 AM PST by NYer

(AgapePress) - "[A]t the end of the day, the truth is that when you perform an abortion you are killing something," said Dr. David Molloy of the Australian Medical Association.

For pro-lifers, that is a statement of the obvious. But what if you were confronted with the full horror of what that death represented -- and still didn't care? Is it possible that pro-abortionists could finally admit that abortion is murder, but then collectively shrug their shoulders?

That seems to be the case after the release of a British documentary entitled My Fetus, which aired in Britain in April, and then in Australia in August. The documentary contains footage of an unborn baby being sucked out of a mother's womb, shows dismembered babies -- one of whom is being rinsed in a sieve -- and other remains being carefully put back together in order to ensure that no body parts were left in Mommy's tummy.

The film is apparently staggering in its emotional impact. One pro-abortion journalist, Lauren Booth of the Daily Telegraph (London), who has herself had an abortion, watched the documentary and was stunned. "My hand flew to my mouth in shock," she said. "I swallowed. I didn't want to say it, but the word 'murder' came to my lips."

There is tremendous irony involved here, however, because My Fetus was not made by pro-lifers. It is the work of pro-abortion activist and filmmaker Julia Black, daughter of Tim Black, who heads up Britain's largest abortion provider. Black had her own abortion when she was 21.

So what was her reason for making such a film? She told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) that it was to "reclaim the most powerful weapon the anti-abortion groups currently have -- the fetus and the baby." Black wanted pro-abortionists to be faced with the gruesome reality of what they were advocating -- in order to better defend it. Certainly not apologize for it.

What's truly horrifying is Black's apparent indifference to the gruesome reality of what her film presents all too clearly. In an interview with ABC's Tony Jones, Black said the idea of "dismembering a baby and pulling it out in pieces ... is obviously horrific. But at the same time, it is easy to get caught up in that emotion."

Later she told a newspaper, "I can take on board the emotional significance, but I still really do believe it's my right and I don't regret my abortion and I would never say I would never have one again."

It's one thing for someone to advocate abortion in ignorance of what is being done to an unborn child, or even to support abortion while refusing to look at the nature of the act. But how does one stare dismemberment in the face and simply shrug?

A similarly abhorrent attitude was expressed nonchalantly in the U.S. by another pro-abortion evangelist, Amy Richards. A feminist activist and author, an abortion rights advocate who has worked with Planned Parenthood, and a co-founder of a feminist organization that has financed abortions, Richards recounted in The New York Times Magazine how she handled the news that she was pregnant -- with triplets.

"I'd have to give up my life," Richards thought after getting the bad news. "[N]ow I'm going to have to move to Staten Island. I'll never leave my house because I'll have to care for these children. I'll have to start shopping only at Costco [a wholesale club] and buying big jars of mayonnaise."

Her decision? She asked her obstetrician: "Is it possible to get rid of one of them? Or two of them?" When told that an abortion specialist could, in fact, perform a "selective reduction," Richards agreed.

Her boyfriend balked before the deed was done, however. Richards recounted: "But Peter was staring at the sonogram screen thinking, 'Oh, my gosh, there are three heartbeats. I can't believe we're about to make two disappear.'"

It mattered not to Richards. She waved off her boyfriend's request that they at least consider having the triplets, and Richards proceeded to have two unborn children aborted.

The deaths of two innocent children, of course, is deplorable enough. But again, as in the case of Black, it is the ruthlessness exhibited by Richards that is most chilling. As one woman wrote to the editors at The New York Times, "Of all the reasons for having an abortion, I never thought that the prospect of living in Staten Island and shopping at Costco would be among them."

Just how hardened to suffering and our own iniquity can our hearts become? It seems likely that pro-abortionists will continue to plumb hell's depths before being able to provide an answer to that one.


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To: Aquinasfan
I also know from hearing former abortionists and directors of crisis pregnancy centers speak, that abortion-minded women change their minds when they see sonograms of their unborn children, about 85%, to be exact..

After leaving the service, I took a job in ultra-sound repair in Northern CA. It was a small business, and the CEO/President was a fellow pro-life Catholic. I can't count the machines and service calls we provided free of charge to crisis pregnancy centers.

The only thing we needed to be careful of was ensuring that the equipment was functioning properly. An inexpensive machine, or a machine out of calibration, can produce fuzzy, grainy images that can make the fetus appear just a blob, completely unlifelike. This type of image could sway the mother into thinking it really is just "unwanted tissue."

My boss was also active in Sacramento politics, trying to push through legislation requiring an ultrasound before each abortion. The intention was that the mother would be swayed by the image of a beating heart and other discernible features. I've moved to PA since, and haven't heard how the legislation was going...

41 posted on 12/01/2004 8:26:56 AM PST by ConservativeWarrior
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To: Aquinasfan
I also know from hearing former abortionists and directors of crisis pregnancy centers speak, that abortion-minded women change their minds when they see sonograms of their unborn children, about 85%, to be exact..

After leaving the service, I took a job in ultra-sound repair in Northern CA. It was a small business, and the CEO/President was a fellow pro-life Catholic. I can't count the machines and service calls we provided free of charge to crisis pregnancy centers.

The only thing we needed to be careful of was ensuring that the equipment was functioning properly. An inexpensive machine, or a machine out of calibration, can produce fuzzy, grainy images that can make the fetus appear just a blob, completely unlifelike. This type of image could sway the mother into thinking it really is just "unwanted tissue."

My boss was also active in Sacramento politics, trying to push through legislation requiring an ultrasound before each abortion. The intention was that the mother would be swayed by the image of a beating heart and other discernible features. I've moved to PA since, and haven't heard how the legislation was going...

42 posted on 12/01/2004 8:28:05 AM PST by ConservativeWarrior
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To: hopespringseternal
The plain and simple fact is that nearly everyone who promotes abortion is a stone cold murderer.

Once in a while the thought occurs to me that every other person I see thinks it should be legal to chop babies into little pieces.

It's a sobering thought.

43 posted on 12/01/2004 8:30:08 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: murphE
Atheism is a metaphysical viewpoint that assumes the non-existence of God and, in most cases, the non-existence of reality beyond the physical universe. OTOH, religion assumes the existence of God or at least a supernatural existence. Both the atheist and the religionist derive their beliefs relative to murder and other moral and ethical matters from their presuppositions, which are tied to their metaphysics. Atheists believe they can derive their positions on right and wrong, or even if "right" and "wrong" are valid concepts, from their observations of the material universe interpreted by reason. Religionists believe that at least some areas of right and wrong may be derived from books they regard as being divinely inspired. Atheists disagree widely on many moral issues. Karl Marx, Friedrich Nietzsche, Ayn Rand, and Jean Paul Sartre have sharp disagreements on many issues beyond their shared metaphysical views. The same could be said of Muhammad, Maimonides, Calvin, and Gandhi.

You are correct when you say abortion is not a religious issue. However, you cannot divorce anyone's position on the matter from their metaphysical viewpoint.

44 posted on 12/01/2004 8:38:16 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: NYer

Monsters. Absolute unmittigated monsters.


45 posted on 12/01/2004 8:44:18 AM PST by trubluolyguy (Co-ed naked FReepin' dude!)
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To: NYer
"I'd have to give up my life," Richards thought after getting the bad news. "[N]ow I'm going to have to move to Staten Island. I'll never leave my house because I'll have to care for these children. I'll have to start shopping only at Costco [a wholesale club] and buying big jars of mayonnaise."

I daresay this woman is not fit to have children, and that her triplets should have been birthed, confiscated, given to loving parents, and the woman forced never to have sex again.

46 posted on 12/01/2004 9:22:44 AM PST by MegaSilver
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To: NYer; Mr. Silverback
Check out standupgirl.com. It's got a lot of flash stuff but when you get to the testimonials it's from women who have made both choices, to keep and abort, and the impact it's had on their lives. It will make you weep.

StandUpGirl

47 posted on 12/01/2004 9:23:45 AM PST by Jaded ((Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain))
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To: freepatriot32

I don't think there is any other species that wants to destroy their offspring as much as mankind. And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out how to prevent pregnancy.


48 posted on 12/01/2004 9:34:54 AM PST by mel
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To: B4Ranch

I'd be pitched off this site if I expressed my reaction as colorfully as the remarks made in the article warrant. Creative combinations of biomechanically doubtful streams of profanity are a hobby of mine.


49 posted on 12/01/2004 9:42:51 AM PST by katana
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To: NYer
Actually, what we are seeing is the distillation of the pro-abortion movement. Thanks to advances in science and technology, it is now possible to see your baby almost as clearly as if it were already born. Women who contemplate an abortion but have doubts are most likely to keep their child once the see for themselves that it is a living, feeling human being.

People like Black are the hard core remnants of the human evil of abortion, and their numbers will continue to get smaller and smaller as more and more people awaken to the reality that ABORTION IS MURDER.
50 posted on 12/01/2004 10:17:59 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Oh yeah - and F the french too!)
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To: NYer
The life of the child is irrelevant
51 posted on 12/01/2004 10:23:53 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Have you visited http://blog.c-pol.com?)
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To: Jaded

Thanks for posting that link. Definitely worth the visit!


52 posted on 12/01/2004 10:52:51 AM PST by NYer ("Blessed be He who by His love has given life to all." - final prayer of St. Charbel)
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To: NYer; cpforlife.org

Ping.

This is sick.

What I don't get is how people can't see where this is leading to. You have pretty much unrestricted euthanasia in the Netherlands, and how long till that comes here.

How long till some one thinks that the old pamphlet "A Modest Proposal" is a real blueprint? How long till they start up the camps and the ovens?



53 posted on 12/01/2004 11:22:28 AM PST by redgolum (Molon labe)
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To: redgolum; cpforlife.org
You have pretty much unrestricted euthanasia in the Netherlands

When they first legalized euthanasia in the Netherlands, they said it was only for those who specifically requested it. Then they started killing those who couldn’t ask for it themselves, calling it “mercy killing”. Next, they proposed lowering the age of euthanasia to 12 years old or even younger. Now, they just kill, then tell the government and expect the government to pass a law legalizing their actions.

and how long till that comes here.

In my 'guesstimate', about 10 more years and here's my theory. To date, 40+ million have been aborted, removing them from the tax rolls. As baby boomers, the generation that legalized abortion, move into retirement, they will increase demands on an overburdened Social Security System. Since those monies will be coming from abortion survivors, it seems only fair that they may very well turn the tables and legalize euthanasia. Somewhat of a poetic justice, don't you think?

54 posted on 12/01/2004 12:02:00 PM PST by NYer ("Blessed be He who by His love has given life to all." - final prayer of St. Charbel)
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To: murphE
Abortion is a moral issue, but not a religious issue. Atheists can know that abortion is wrong, as some do, just like they know stealing is wrong.

You're right, but I think he meant to say "It is NOT a political issue, it is a moral issue," which is an accurate statement, as is "abortion is murder," and as is "All of us by virtue of our not being incarcerated or killed in an illegal act to defend the unborn, are willing accessories to murder." I think anyone who is pro-life..and not a hypocrite, would agree with the stark reality of that statement. Think about it.

55 posted on 12/01/2004 12:08:00 PM PST by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: NYer
I can't even make it through the complete article. But my initial reaction to this and the Netherlands news is that Judgment Day can't come soon enough.
56 posted on 12/01/2004 12:11:18 PM PST by steve86
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To: NYer
Yes it is poetic justice.

Had an interesting discussion with my bride the other day. She can not understand why "reasonable" people can say that abortion is not wrong. I said that "reason" is only a construct for processing information according to a base set of standards.

The Nazi's in Germany and the Communists in Russia were so terrifying because they were so "reasonable". There beliefs systems held certain people to be no more than commodities. Reason without some short of moral framework can be a rather terrifying thing.
57 posted on 12/01/2004 12:20:26 PM PST by redgolum (Molon labe)
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To: MAWG

Exactly! I am the lone conservative female at the software company I work at. Recently, after Bush's re-election, a couple of lib females (anti-war, anti cap punishment, ...) at work confronted me, all in a tizzy about an administration appointee who is pro-life.

One of them challenged me about my supporting the war in Iraq, saying that the Pope is against war. I tossed back that, first of all, I'm an atheist, so I don't much care what the Pope says, and second, I don't see pro-abortion libs caring about what the Pope says when it comes to abortion.

I'm telling you, the female libs are on a warpath about abortion, to the exclusion of all other issues. Look for major battles over Supreme Court appointees.

And as far as pro-abortionists denying the violence they do, I remember happening to tune in to the old Phil Donahue TV show one day several years ago. His guests that day were children who had survived abortion. There was Mr. Liberal walking around the stage cradling a sleeping baby in his arms - a little girl in a frilly dress, who was missing an arm. The abortionist had chopped off her arm and assumed he'd gotten the entire fetus. By the time the mother discovered she was still pregnant, she opted to continue the pregnancy. As far as I know, Phil and his wife are still for "reproductive rights for women."


58 posted on 12/01/2004 12:22:35 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (A Freep a day keeps the liberals away.)
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To: redgolum
The Nazi's in Germany and the Communists in Russia were so terrifying because they were so "reasonable".

Today, we have the United Nations!

59 posted on 12/01/2004 12:23:36 PM PST by NYer ("Blessed be He who by His love has given life to all." - final prayer of St. Charbel)
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To: NYer

Almost all centrists and rightists are not willing to face what an advocate of abortion is. A person who will kill their own child, their own baby, will kill another person even more lightly, without a second glance, without pity and without remorse. The Left are murderous thugs.


60 posted on 12/01/2004 12:34:16 PM PST by Iris7 (.....to protect the Constitution from all enemies, both foreign and domestic. Same bunch, anyway.)
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