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Canadian: Liberalism Crapped Up My Country (Rush Interviews Canadian Who's Had It Alert)
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | 11/30/04 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 12/01/2004 3:15:18 AM PST by goldstategop

RUSH: Here's Matt in Windsor, Canada. Welcome to the program, Matt, nice to have you on with us.

CALLER: Mega dittos from Canada. I just want to say to the Americans that a lot of Canadians are grateful for voting Bush in, and the reason why is because we have a -- you've probably read about our military, or the lack of it. We have 10,000 military personnel for Canada. We have subs that sink, ships that break down and we just bought a bunch, a rusty fleet from England, and we had one sailor killed on bringing them back because the electrical panel blew up and it almost sunk.

But you know, we have 10,000 military personnel, and New York City has 15,000 police officers, I'm told. So... I mean that shows you for 44 million people in Canada (laughing) where we are as a people. We're so far left up here because of Trudeau 30 years ago. I mean, we're paying for it. Like one thing people don't realize. Everybody tries to use Canada as the example of how great everything is if you're just left. On $105,000 me and my wife have to pay $30,000 off the top income tax. Anybody above $115,000 that they make has to pay 45% of that to the government. That's just off the top. Then we have a sales tax that is 15%. Fifteen 15 cents on every dollar you spend, you have to pay to the government.

RUSH: Let me tell you something, this sounds like a paradise for American liberals.

CALLER: (Groans) Oh. Oh!

RUSH: I understand why they're headed that way.

CALLER: Tell 'em to come because (laughing). I mean, they want to pay the tax up here? I worked on the water, and I tried to educate a lot of Americans because I hear all this garbage about how great Canada is from the universities over there. They preach the same crap. Like, Canada is in the position -- Canada is excelled. Where your leftists are, we're about 30 years in advance of where leftism has taken us. We are so taxed. I mean, there's $500 on licensing fees on a car every year. Five hundred! You know, in Canada, Canadian money, that's like a week's pay, two weeks' pay. I mean that's just... Property tax, 1,200 square foot home, $3,000, you've got 24-by-60-foot backyard. It's just everything. I mean, our --

RUSH: And still they have health care for everybody but you've got long lines. You have to wait for things and it doesn't work.

CALLER: Oh, long lines? People were miscarrying in the waiting rooms because... I got a piece of copper in my finger from an injury at work. I waited 15 hours! I could have went home, slept, and come back. Fifteen hours to take a chunk of copper out of my hand.

RUSH: You could probably taken it out of your hand just as well as the doctors there could have.

CALLER: Well, that's exactly what happened. This doctor, she come in wired on coffee; she was a student doctor, and she got a little piece of it. My wife had to take the rest of it home. This is our great health care system. Our health care system, I'll give you an example. By 2025 in Canada we will have a shortage of nurses because they're all retiring and the people aren't going into the field up here because it doesn't pay. They're fleeing to the United States because they capped the wages on doctors and nurses up here.

RUSH: And patients are leaving Canada to be treated in the United States as well.

CALLER: I know -- and one thing I want to say to America, about this. You hear about people coming to get medication to Canada. Well, here's the dirty secret. You guys are doing all the research and product development! We cap the price on you when you bring your drugs in here, you guys pay for all the research and development. We make the profits. We don't research and develop! You guys do all the work. We make the profit off it. We -- we can afford to cap it, lower the prices, because we're not doing anything. We don't do anything! Merck and all these other companies, Wyeth and all these other companies do the work; we bring 'em in here. We rip you guys off with generic drugs and the Americans come in here and they wonder why they're paying less prices. I mean, if people want leftism in the states, like we have one government controlled news agency. It's called the CBC. We conservatives refer to it as the "Communist Broadcasting Company," and the government appoints the head of it.

RUSH: Yeah, we know well the CBC. They're preventing this program being syndicated up there. They always have.

CALLER: I'll tell you. There are a lot of people who listen to (Sean) Hannity, you, Dennis Prager. There are a lot of good conservatives who are just waiting, waiting. I tell you what, they lobby to keep -- you know your satellite dishes? They lobbied the Bell Telephone up here to keep your satellite dishes out because under law called Canada Content, they don't want American news in here. Like for four weeks me and my wife almost vomited. I had to watch -- we didn't have to watch it; we watched it just to be educated on what the liberals and leftists are doing -- they bashed Bush for four weeks. This is the crap that people watch up here!

RUSH: I understand.

CALLER: And they think it's the honest-to-God truth.

RUSH: I know. We know this.

CALLER: I'm just saying: Americans, if you think liberalism is working, police stop using Canada. Every time I hear Canadians used as an example. "Oh, Canada look at how lush and lovely it is!" We're freaking working for the government up here!

RUSH: (Laughing, applauding)

CALLER: We struggle. And my wife makes good money. We're considered top earners in Canada.

RUSH: What is that, how much do you and your wife earn combined?

CALLER: I'm off for a year with my kids because of the -- well, that's another story, the day care system. But we were making $105,000 a year. Cars up here, $40,000 for a car.

RUSH: Well, wait, wait, wait, wait. What kind of car?

CALLER: A minivan. A Chrysler minivan. On a home we pay $15,000 government sales tax called the GST. (goods and services tax) On a car you pay a GST and PST (provincial sales tax) You pay a ton of tax on the car. The government taxes... Okay, if you sell a car three times, it's taxed three times.

RUSH: What most people are asking as they listen to you is, "Why are you still there?" Why haven't you left?

CALLER: Me and my wife have talked about it. Recently it's gotten so crazy, we're talking about moving down there. I had an issue when I was a younger person, and I got in trouble with the law when I was a young man, and if you were in trouble with the law even once it's hard to move to the United States. I have to pay legal --

RUSH: Noooo, it's not! Just go to Mexico and come up that way.

CALLER: We're talking about moving. I talked about that the other day.

RUSH: (Laughing)

CALLER: I said, "You know what, Cheryl? Let's move, because this is..." and then this lie that everybody hates Bush in Canada? It's not true!

RUSH: I know. I know. That's one of the biggest myths out there, and not just in Canada, but around the world, not just hates Bush but hates America, and it's one of these popular media myths. Bush is so reviled here by the American left that they'll join forces with anybody that hates Bush, and have some sort of alignment with them simply because they're so blinded by their own seething rage and hatred which I think is getting worse, as we predicted, since the election. Well, Matt, I'm glad you called. I appreciate it. Thanks very much.

Ladies and gentlemen, I left him on for a while because I wanted to you hear this. This was utter, raw passion of a man who is fed up with out of control liberalism in his own country, and I wanted you to hear it. We talk about it on this program. We have for quite a while. Here's somebody actually living it, and despises it and hates it. Didn't have any notes, I'm sure, just pure, raw passion flowing out -- and this was all under the guise of calling this program to thank Americans for defending Canada because they don't have but 10,000-man military force, if I heard him correctly, and we got more cops in New York City than they have in their military in Canada. I happen to know -- I didn't have a chance to ask him this but he lives in Windsor -- now, if you get your map out, look and find Windsor in Canada, it's just across a small body of water from New Fallujah, Michigan. That would be Auburn Hills where the Detroit Pistons play. If he feels... (laughing) If he feels safer living that close to New Fallujah, you can imagine how bad it is up there! Anyway, Matt, I appreciate the phone call. Thanks so much.


TOPICS: Canada; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: canada; canuckistan; greenpastures; liberalism; ohcanaduh; ontario; rushlimbaugh; windsor
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To: goldstategop

Happened to be listening to Hannity and Colmes last night and a snippet came on I believe a news break talking about protests In Italy against lower taxes because it only benefited the rich. I almost fell out of my chair.


21 posted on 12/01/2004 4:18:42 AM PST by wita
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To: goldstategop

"We Americans have a low tolerance for high taxes."

Do we? Look at Taxachusetts. They keep reelecting the same folks year after year who keep raising taxes.
What gets Americans is the guilt trips laid on success...that we SHOULD do something for the less fortunate and yadayada.
We keep approving bond issues for all sorts of pits[pie in the sky] projects. Especially if you dangle a "for the cheelrun" slogan in front of voters.
So, I don't know that Americans DO have such a low tolerance for high taxes. I certainly wish they did.


22 posted on 12/01/2004 4:24:30 AM PST by Adder (Can we bring back stoning again? Please?)
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To: Adder

Actually according to Canada's Fraser Institute studies, Taxachusetts is still economic freer than all Canadian provinces, except, you guessed it, Alberta. It isn't a hellhole (relatively speaking) when you pit it against Ontario or Saskatcheswan, for example.


23 posted on 12/01/2004 4:34:13 AM PST by NZerFromHK ("US libs...hypocritical, naive, pompous...if US falls it will be because of these" - Tao Kit (HK))
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To: FormerACLUmember
Everything this irate young Canadian says is 100% razor sharp true.

Nope. He got very little right.

24 posted on 12/01/2004 4:38:25 AM PST by Snowyman
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To: NZerFromHK

I agree we are not as bad as Canada....YET. Its certainly where the dumblecrats and the left want us to go.
And they have a following of people who buy their insidious crap. Unfortunately, they vote, sometimes in large numbers.


25 posted on 12/01/2004 4:44:54 AM PST by Adder (Can we bring back stoning again? Please?)
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To: b4its2late; Recovering_Democrat; Alissa; Pan_Yans Wife; LADY J; mathluv; browardchad; cardinal4; ...

27 posted on 12/01/2004 4:52:03 AM PST by Born Conservative (Entertainment is a thing of the past, today we've got television - Archie Bunker)
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To: Snowyman

Yes, he got a lot right. I am an American who lives and works in Toronto; I get half the wages I got in Atlanta, and I pay the same rent for 525 square feet and a refrigerator I have to defrost, as I paid for 1100 square feet in Buckhead (same type neighbourhood as I live in now) with a 24 hour concierge and every possible modern convenience. Rent Control came off two years ago and no one is building any new apartments -- because they are taxed five times higher than private homes. A 300 square foot condo (yes, the size of a storage bay in a decent complex in Atlanta) costs $200,000 here. And there is over $125 in taxes on the average airline ticket.

Anybody who thinks socialism can work ought to be forced to live here for five years. Then they would learn!

By the way, I was reprimanded at work on November 3 for saying "Hurrah!" when the announcement was made that Mr. Bush was elected. We are not permitted to express opinions that may upset others.


28 posted on 12/01/2004 4:53:07 AM PST by KateatRFM
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To: RushLake
big drug companies that do all the expensive research don't just pull out of the Canadian market

The large US drug companies are using Canada to offset manufacturing costs. They sell into the Canadian market at slightly above manufacturing costs, thereby keeping volume high. Canada actually sets the prices. The US companies have some input into the selling price, but it is minimal.

29 posted on 12/01/2004 5:01:46 AM PST by SCALEMAN (Super Cards Fan)
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To: goldstategop

No, actually what seems to happen to people in general is that it's human nature to be like the frog which is placed in the pot of cold water on the stove. As the water is gradually heated, the frog becomes slowly adjusted to it in increments and will stay until he just dies. If you throw a frog directly into a pot of boiling water, he would jump out. We are already acclimated to an amount of taxation that would have gagged our forefathers and moved them to revolution. Of course, we like more services and conveniences now and have more technology available for better roads and other facilities for which we have to pay taxes.


30 posted on 12/01/2004 5:02:37 AM PST by Twinkie
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To: KateatRFM

Hmmm-mm. I wonder if you would have been reprimanded if you said "hurrah" if Kerry had been elected . . .


31 posted on 12/01/2004 5:05:00 AM PST by Twinkie
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To: KateatRFM

Why did you leave Atlanta?


32 posted on 12/01/2004 5:05:50 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (never surrender, this is for the kids)
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To: goldstategop
One slight point of clarification. The Canadian Military numbers some 55,000 personnel. It's still small in comparision to the overall population of 30 plus million and being the 2nd largest country in land area.

This number is a far cry from the about 1 million stong who served in World War 2 under the Canadian Flag.

As a fellow Ontarian, I do agree a lot with Matt on many of the issues.

33 posted on 12/01/2004 5:06:15 AM PST by hawkaw
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To: goldstategop; KateatRFM

Thanks for posting this transcript, goldstategop. The caller was dead on, imo. Sometimes I wonder if I could ever talk my husband into moving back, but at this point I wonder if we'd even be able to afford it.

And to top it all off, we live in Quebec, and because of the language laws, my kids go to French school, and learning a second language is fine, except for the fact that my son's English spelling and writing skills have taken a nose dive. On the other hand, they'll never be able to get a good job in Ottawa if they don't speak and write French.

"We are not permitted to express opinions that may upset others."

That is so true, Kate. They took Art Bell off the air because of a few "inappropriate" comments made by the host. The radio hosts couldn't even explain on the air what the comments were! All they could say was that the comments were "hurtful" against a group.

I'm guessing the comments were somehow critical of either Muslims or women but I really have no idea. If anyone knows the reason, I'd love to hear it.

And then there was Don Cherry, who almost got fired from Hockey Night in Canada because he said the French hockey players were wimps because they use visors. :)


34 posted on 12/01/2004 5:38:24 AM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: NZerFromHK

You should have seen CBC griping over President Bush's visit yesterday. Complaining that it's his first visit north in four years of his Presidency and he's only staying 26 hours.

Of course, they don't mention that it's the first Presidential visit in over ten years. That means that Clinton obviously wasn't real familiar with the streets of Canada either.

Bush had a great line in his speech though. He thanked the Canadians for their great welcome. He appreciated all the people who lined the roads to welcome him and wave, especially those who used "all five fingers."


35 posted on 12/01/2004 5:54:00 AM PST by cyclotic (Cub Scouts-Teach 'em young to be men, and politically incorrect in the process)
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To: goldstategop

I find it fascinating that libs would want to flee to a country with restrictions on abortion and speech. What are their priorities?


36 posted on 12/01/2004 5:59:43 AM PST by eccentric (aka baldwidow)
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To: cyclotic

"He appreciated all the people who lined the roads to welcome him and wave, especially those who used "all five fingers."

LOL, everyone was talking about that line. I talked to people at the grocery store and at my son's Scout meeting last night, and everyone was laughing about it.

I think GW made a good impression on people who watched the news conference.


37 posted on 12/01/2004 6:03:00 AM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: goldstategop

Thanks for posting this.


38 posted on 12/01/2004 6:04:10 AM PST by RushCrush ("Of the four wars in my lifetime none came about because the U.S. was too strong." Reagan)
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To: All
I live in Ontario (born here in '53) and would agree with most of what Mat said on Rush's show. For me, the general anti-American attitude is even tougher to swallow than the hight taxes - the media has done a good job of persuading the masses even though the power of the Communist Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) and Communist Television (CTV) is waning (and thank God Fox is coming which may add a bit of balance - we can only hope). My wife and I have talked about moving to the States for a few years.

A question for all - which states do you consider to be the best to live for a conservative and why? What sources do you think are the best for establishing that opinion (outside of the anecdotal which is also welcome). Incidentally, I am a self-employed professional engineer (mechanical) and my wife is a computer programmer. We have 3 kids but they are about ready to leave the nest. As for the rest of our families, most are in Ontario and a few in BC. We like to ski and do summer water sports. I would want to do the same work I am doing now (which just means an office that could be set up anywhere) but being near a major airport would be valuable. I think I know the states that we definitely want to stay away from - but which ones should be kept on our short list?
39 posted on 12/01/2004 6:14:19 AM PST by Asfarastheeastisfromthewest...
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To: DoughtyOne

Spent our vacation in Canada this year (Broken Group Islands off the coast of Vancourer Isle). I figure the way to get through to the 'average joe six-pack' american is to tell them that as soon as they get free health care, beer goes up to almost $12 a six pack, and cigarettes almost $9! Not to mention gas is about $0.92 cents a litre, and it take about 3.5 litres to make a gallon! Figure that one out. NOT cheap!

Mama


40 posted on 12/01/2004 6:15:06 AM PST by Mama Shawna
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