Posted on 11/29/2004 7:38:42 PM PST by kfowler1
Call For Change Rally on Campus at 5:30 at the Golden Dome. AP should be there. We want Ty Willingham (head coach) amd Athletic Director Kevin White FIRED. Tell all you know that the students are in revolt for their beloved Irish.
If they still have that contract with NBC, it must be real long term, or they would've been gone long ago.
Dick Ebersol, NBC sports honcho, sends his oldest son Charlie to ND.
"The Students are Revolting!"
"The Students are Revolting!"
(thanks, Wizard of Id)
I have to disagree on that, to a certain extent. Willingham did a decent job at Stanford which also has very tough admissions standards. The fact that he is black is a positive, considering the percentage of blacks in the game, a black coach is very appropriate.
If ND fires him now, it will be a racially based act that is improper!
I would say that he has one year left to turn it around. If they don't fire him (assuming they have another mediocre season), it will be because he is black and they are bending over backwards to not have accusations thrown at them.
You guys have it great compared to what the Oklahoma Sooners went through first with Captain Kangaroo (Snellenbarger whose wife danced with poms during the game), and then John Blake, nice guy, great defensive line coach, LOUZY head coach. Most games he won was five and we got blown out by the same Nebraska by over 60 points that now whines when we scored a touchdown late to get to 30 points.
OU hired a new athletic director who fired Blake (who was also black and a former Sooner) after one season and then hired Bob Stoops from Florida who turned the whole program around in two years and he is only getting better and better recruits with higher GPA's so they don't have to be concerned about not having good students to go with good football skills.
If I was recommending to ND -- fire your AD and then fire Willingham, and hire a very good coach. I saw too many missed assignments in that USC game to not think it was anything but coaching. It sure looks like ND has talent -- so did OU when Blake left but he didn't know how to use the talent. He had running backs playing quarterback and running backs that should have been defensive backs to name just a few things wrong.
Think you guys should have stuck with your original hire and forgave him -- look at Mike Price at UTEP after Alabama fired him. UTEP was really bad as we played them last year -- they looked horrible and now Price has turned that program around.
Ah, but there is where you have it all wrong...Ty has the talend if he can beat Michigan and Tennessee....he is a lousy coach if he can't get a team up for BYU, Pitt and Boston College. Look carefully at his record and you will see that he was just like this at Stanford...winning big games and losing games he should win. That my friend is the definition of a mediocre coach.
It is tragic about his son.
It is tragic about his son.
But that's one of those things you never know. Was it a great coaching effort to beat Michigan and Tennessee (overrated, talent-wise this year, by the way) with lesser guys, or is it underachieving to lose to solid but unspectacularly teams like Boston College and Pitt. One thing I will say is that you need a quarterback to really compete on the national stage these days. And Notre Dame hasn't had a good one for a while, and Brady Quinn is not the answer. Heck, if you can't recruit a quarterback at Notre Dame, somebody ain't doing their job, and if there is any legitimate complaint about Willingham, it should fall there. We've got kids all over the southern California high schools with better arms than Quinn.
Give him another year. Once our offensive line has matured, Brady Quinn will be unstoppable in this offense. Don't just turn on the coach at first blush.
Malloy is gone already. Replaced by Father Jenkins -- a big improvement.
Actually, they just renewed the contract.
Malloy can still do a lot of damage between now and June 30th when Jenkins takes over.
Willingham will do fine. Anyone taking a look at the schedule at the start of the year would not have predicted a 6-5 season. The problem was they lost ganes they should have won and won games they should have lost. This bodes far better than if it was the other way around. It means they have excellent potential and from what I have read, Willingham has been doing pretty well on the recruiting front.
As a subway alumni of ND, I am compelled to reply here.
Coach Willingham, as has been remarked, has done a great job with the hand he was dealt. They smacked-down Michigan and Michigan State, and that's no small job!
Losing to USC is always tough, but just damn, that USC Team could play in the NFL!! They're really good!!
Now that I live in Florida, I'm amazed that they can get enough players out of jail Friday night to field a team on Saturday! The 'Noles', the 'Gaters', and the 'Canes' can kiss my Irish-ass!
You got at least part of your wish. Notre Dame just announced that they have fired Ty.
Perhaps USC would like to have Ty now that he's available.
Now, if we could just do the same down in Bloomington w/Mike Davis....
Party hard & have one for me ol' timer. (I'm 52 - ND'75- and having a hard time remembering I'm no longer 22)
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