Posted on 11/29/2004 7:38:42 PM PST by kfowler1
Call For Change Rally on Campus at 5:30 at the Golden Dome. AP should be there. We want Ty Willingham (head coach) amd Athletic Director Kevin White FIRED. Tell all you know that the students are in revolt for their beloved Irish.
Wow--I think you're wrong. I'm not an ND fan but it seems to me Willingham has done as well as he could so far with the hand he was dealt.
irish guard
Tough to put a team together that can handle the academic requirements involved and still excell on the field
year one with Bob Davie recruits....Ty goes 8-4....Then in 2003, he goes 5-7.....then this year 6-5. In each of his three years, he lost to USC by 31 points and suffered huge losses in each of his three years. Ty is mediocre at best. For a univeristy claiming to be a Princeton (or insert any other name here) of the midwest, Notre Dame is fielding a "C" student football program. Ty has hd enough time to turn things around. In his third year, Holtz had a national championship. In his third year, Devine had a national championship, in his third year, Parseghian had a national championship. In his third year, ty was 6-5, losing to BYU, Boston College, Purdue, Pitt and USC.
Back in the era of Ara, before ESPN...just about every senior from a Catholic HS wanted to go to ND..they had the pick oif the litter in recruiting..now, NO conference affiliation hurts..the weather in SB ain't California or Florida..every good FB school gets on national TV a few times..and ND has higher academic standards..ND may NOT be able to recover..
Ever hear Duke whine about that in basketball? How about Michigan in football?
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Willingham has done as well as he could so far with the hand he was dealt.
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True enough, but has he been there long enough to make it his hand and does he have what it takes to bring the Irish back? I certainly don't know, but I do believe he is just now getting to the point where he could prove himself.
I would keep Willingham and bounce out some of those lightweight lightstepping administrators running that place these days. Get back to real Catholicism and things will turn around.
But, but, but ... Ty is black! He wasn't hired because he was a great football coach. He was an affirmative action hire. If ND fires him now, it will be a racially based act that is improper!
You're probably right. I have to confess I don't know anything about winning college football---I'm an Indiana fan. 6-5 sounds like a dream season...
The lightest stepper of them all is Fr. Monk Malloy. No, not a homosexual, rather, he is a multiculturalist in everything he does. Monk has taken the place to the brink.
Notre Dame does not fire football coaches, short of some sort of malfeasance and a 6 - 5 record doesn't qualify. The ND AD has made mistakes before and recovered - remember Gerry Faust?
They fired Bob Davie.
Funny you should mention Michigan, I went to U of M and my brother in law graduated from ND both of us in engineering and his curriculum was brutal compared to mine. Now as far as Duke goes, lot easier to field a B ball team than a football team, just ask them
Really?
Maybe they should have stuck with O'Leary despite his exaggerated CV.
yea, and it would have been really nice to see Notre Dame do something incredibly Catholic with O'Leary.....like forgive him....instead, they humiliated him in the press. I am ashamed of how Notre Dame dealt with that situation.
I know "We haven't had a football coach since Parsegian" maybe true but alot more competition for good players than in the 60s, and ND doesn't have the mystique it had when it comes to recruiting. Granted there has been some dandies ie Devine, Faust, the frail skinnyy guy with the glasses from MN. None of them did worth sh!^
S***can Monk Molloy and Richard Heretic McBrien too.
Well, that's part of the problem. But look, I'm a USC guy and throughout the 90's, I never thought USC could get back to prominence. Notre Dame beat them every year and it never seemed like things would turn around. But it did, and coaching did it. Willingham won at Stanford, which is not the easiest place to win, so it stands to reason that he will get things going at Notre Dame. And I look at this year's ND season a little differently. They lost close games to Pittsburgh who is good, Boston College who is good, and BYU who gave USC a solid challenge. They beat Michigan who is going to the Rose Bowl. They beat Michigan State who pounded Wisconsin when they were undefeated. They beat Tennessee who is the SEC North Champion. They played well against USC early, outplayed them early, and then lost because USC is really good, probably best in the country. So the only el stinko they had this year was Purdue, whose quarterback was a Heisman candidate earlier in the year. Notre Dame was really close to a 9-2 season this year. They may be a 9-2 team next year. I'd give Willingham at least one more year, and then bounce him if things don't turn around.
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