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The Sleeping World Is Awakening to the Dangers of Islam
CHRONWATCH.COM ^ | NOVEMBER 27, 2004 | BARBARA STOCK

Posted on 11/26/2004 10:09:05 PM PST by CHARLITE

This past week, I have received many responses from Muslims concerning my two most recent columns: ''Followers of Islam: Can You See the Blood on Your Hands'' and ''Here Comes the Arab/Muslim Outrage.''

In one breath, some the writers would call themselves ''intellectuals'' and then accuse me of being a Jew when I put tough questions to them that they could not answer. They maintained that as an American, I just was not intelligent enough to understand Islam. The mistake these ''intellectuals'' made is believing that I have any intention of ''understanding'' Islam.

It has taken me since 9/11 to realize that civilized humans cannot understand Islam. I am just overjoyed and somewhat relieved that the world is finally waking up in time to see the rabid dog coming its way disguised as Islam.

If Bin Laden has done one good thing in his wretched life, it was to poke a stick in the eye of the world by bringing his radical beliefs forward and urging his followers to commit violent acts. It has taken some time for people to begin taking a look at Muslims in their own areas, but it is happening. The French and the English are beginning to ask themselves, ''When did this happen? When did 6 million Muslims get here and what are they planning to do?''

Approximately 33% of the world is Christian and 20% is Muslim, based on figures for the year 2000. The number of Muslims is growing at an alarming rate. Muslims immigrated to peaceful, mostly Christian countries in Europe where they had large families that were reasonably safe from the ravages of their own strict religious teachings. At least these Muslims were safe until the radical element migrated from the oppressive Middle Eastern countries and began exerting its power over the masses and started menacing the indigenous populations that took Muslims in and welcomed them over the years. The mind-control of the clerics over the average Muslim is frightening and total.

This problem is most notable in the smaller European countries such as the Netherlands and Sweden, where a backlash against Islam is growing because of the strict Islamic laws forbidding mingling with the non-Muslim citizens of a country. In short, Muslims do not fit in. They are not allowed to fit in. The religious leaders lose their total control of the people if those people are allowed to see and experience the freedom that others enjoy. This is why Islam loathes democracy. Democracy steals the power of the Islamic leaders. It gives the people the right to think for themselves and thinking people might start to question their laws. Free people will question the absolute authority and power of the Islamic leaders over every aspect of their lives from birth to often violent death.

These days, it seems that anyone who speaks out against Islam runs the risk of being murdered, as in the case of filmmaker Theo Van Gogh who was shot, stabbed, and then had his throat slit by a radical Muslim in the Netherlands. Van Gogh had made documentaries exposing the brutality directed at women under Islam. Now, mosques and Muslim schools have been burned and the normally peaceful Dutch are considering closing their borders at the very least and perhaps even expelling Muslims from their country. As one Dutch citizen said on a blog, ''This country is a free country but we can’t even speak anymore without wondering if some Muslim will murder us.'' The hate and unrest towards the followers of Islam is growing. It is just a rumble now, but it will get louder as the killing and bombing continues across Europe.

A recent report on Fox News showed the hostility growing between the Swedes and their Muslim population. There are Muslim areas where firefighters and emergency personnel will not enter without a police escort because they will be attacked. Firefighters attempting to put out a fire in a mosque were stoned. The anger between these two forces in Sweden is growing and the most liberal country in Europe is contemplating the same action as the Netherlands. It seems Muslims feel their neighborhoods are not a part of Sweden anymore but theirs, to do with as they see fit. The Swedish government does not see it that way. In those pockets of Islamic rule, poverty is common, unemployment is high, and the clerics foment hate and point fingers of blame on the evil West for Muslims' lot in life.

In France, which has the largest Muslim population in Europe, Islamic clerics openly troll the streets seeking restless young men to indoctrinate and send out to kill for Islam. They weed out the weaklings by having them view videos of the actual torture and beheadings of human beings complete with the screams of pain and all blood and gore of a nightmare. They watch Islamic ''snuff films.'' This is what will be expected of them as ''warriors'' of Allah.

Here in the United States we have a different set of problems. America is just too large for Islam to overpower by reproduction. It has also been impossible to isolate its followers from the American population and American Muslims are far less likely to follow the path of death and destruction. Here, they take a different tact.

Radical Islam is rampant in the prisons, converting the worst of the worst so that when they leave prison they are unleashed on society as pre-programmed, radical Islamic killing machines. On the outside they appear as average Americans which allow them to move about the country unencumbered and overlooked. These killing machines wait for their orders to kill and terrorize, cared for and protected by the radical Islamic element within our own borders.

Muslims live in the past where they had their glory days of conquest and power. They often refer to the Crusades, which ended around 1300, as if they happened last year. I am constantly reminded of Wounded Knee and American slavery. Wounded Knee took place in 1890 and slavery ended in the 1860s.

Muslim writers love to point out the Spanish Inquisition, which was an over-reaction to the conquests of Islam in Spain and was just as much political as religious. The Inquisition officially ended in 1834. What they fail to mention is that it was not only Muslims that were persecuted, but Jews and Protestants as well. Muslims always see themselves as the only victims of injustice in the world. Muslims also fail to mention that the Pope tried to intervene and stop the Inquisition but was unable to exert his power on the political machine.

We Catholics look at this period in our history with shame, not pride. Belief in God or Jesus cannot be forced on someone; it must come from the heart. Forced conversion is not done out of love, but fear. Islam can control one's body, but it cannot control one's thoughts. Converts that are forced will not stay with Islam. They will leave it at the first opportunity.

This is knowledge that has escaped the Islamics. As they condemn the Spanish Inquisition, Islam is doing the same right now in countries such as Sudan. What Muslims are doing in Sudan is far worse than the Spanish Inquisition. Humanitarian groups estimate that since 1983, an estimated 2 million people have died from war and related famine in Sudan at the hands of the Islamic leaders. Anyone refusing to denounce Jesus and accept Islam is executed. Rape is used as a weapon. It seems that all modern-day Islam needs is a coliseum with some lions. Trapped in the past, Muslims call the coalition forces ''crusaders.''

Since the attack on 9/11 here in the United States, the enemy has been exposed. The havens of safety in Afghanistan and Iraq have been taken from the Islamics. In its fury, Islam has made many mistakes. The attacks in Spain and in Bali and murders in the Netherlands and elsewhere have made the world realize that Islam is not just the enemy of America, but the enemy of the entire free world.

Some people were foolishly saying that America deserved to be attacked but when death came to their shores, they were taken aback. They had welcomed Muslims with open arms and this is how they are repaid for their kindness? Some countries are instituting laws that make our Patriot Act pale in comparison. Threatening tapes released by Bin Laden have had the opposite effect.

Instead of cowering, the world is beginning to look Islam in the eye and say, emphatically and collectively: ''NO! This will not be allowed.'' If it was a final crusade that Islam wanted, they have it.

About the Writer: Barbara is a registered nurse who enjoys writing about politics and current events. She has a website at http://www.republicanandproud.com/

Barbara receives e-mail at dickens502003@yahoo.com


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To: Blind Eye Jones

Very sick pseudo-ecumenical stuff from you Mr.Blind Eye. Are you blind in just one eye? How's the other eye doing? Is it fast going blind too?


181 posted on 11/28/2004 2:50:46 AM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations)
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To: F15Eagle

Very well put. She must have some interesting thoughts about Kerry, Hill, and the rest of the leftist appeasers/Islamo fascist accomodaters.


182 posted on 11/28/2004 4:03:53 AM PST by hershey
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To: oldenuff2no

I'm ashamed to say that I was not alarmed enough by the first World Trade Tower attack. The blind mullah in the dock with his creeepy followers looked and sounded like lunatics, but NY police/judicial authorities seemed to bend over backwards to treat them well. Way too well. I can't think that the average drug offender/arrestee isn't treated like that, or anyone else arrested for whatever.


183 posted on 11/28/2004 4:09:47 AM PST by hershey
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To: oldenuff2no
"I learned all I need to know about Islam on 9/11.' I am not joking,

I have studied about islam before 911 and after and what you say is good. 911 broadcast all the necessary information about Islam, not about all Moslems, yet, though the Turks and Malaysians are beginning to slide also toward the pit.

184 posted on 11/28/2004 4:22:26 AM PST by ThanhPhero ( Nguoi di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: oldenuff2no
"I learned all I need to know about Islam on 9/11.' I am not joking,

I have studied about islam before 911 and after and what you say is good. 911 broadcast all the necessary information about Islam, not about all Moslems, yet, though the Turks and Malaysians are beginning to slide also toward the pit.

185 posted on 11/28/2004 4:22:47 AM PST by ThanhPhero ( Nguoi di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: GeekDejure

If you watched Fox's special on the rest of the world hates America last night, your hair probably turned white. I fell asleep to the knowledge that Muslim/Aljazeera/Jihad nutjob tv etc. propaganda outlets are pumping out lying filth 24/7 to Arab masses. We seem to have two choices. Kill them all or show them there's a way to live...if they're smart enough to take it. That's what Iraq's all about, of course. This country should have a full and honest discussion about what we face if Iraq doesn't work. Leftist elitists should be made to acknowledge publicly where their real loyalties lie. They're either with us or against us. Simple as that.


186 posted on 11/28/2004 4:24:59 AM PST by hershey
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To: nuconvert

"Not allMuslims practice the same....."

You are probably right about this but to allow a religion? (cult) to worship freely that teaches death to us guys is, in my opinion okaying a KKK type organization.


187 posted on 11/28/2004 4:28:43 AM PST by DooDahhhh
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To: Syncro
tenants of Islam

TENETS ! it's TENETS!

Tenants of Islam are folks renting flats from the mullah.

188 posted on 11/28/2004 4:43:53 AM PST by ThanhPhero ( Nguoi di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: ArmedNReady
to irradicate islam

Is that radication by irradiation?

189 posted on 11/28/2004 4:52:04 AM PST by ThanhPhero ( Nguoi di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: F15Eagle

I hate that little jab abotu the Inquisition. How many did get killed in the INquisition? the max number states about 30,000 -- over 3 centuries. How many did the Muslimes on ONE day (9/11) ? 3,000. How many did the Muslimes kill in India over the period from the 11th century to the 13th? an estimated 50 million


190 posted on 11/28/2004 5:08:38 AM PST by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: Porterville

nuke Makkah and Madinah


191 posted on 11/28/2004 5:08:58 AM PST by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: GeekDejure; Arjun; sukhoi-30mki; CarrotAndStick

Don't forget that we have two islamicc pit vipers as 'allies' -- Pakistan and Saudi A


192 posted on 11/28/2004 5:10:13 AM PST by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: nuconvert
It's the radicals/extremists. It is not all muslims.

Islam in general is becoming radicalized pretty quickly. The number of "moderates" is declining radically. The core of the religion itself is radical and deadly. It is hard for these moderates to openly or effectively oppose those who promote the religion as it is in the Koran. It makes them feel like heretics and weaklings.

193 posted on 11/28/2004 5:29:39 AM PST by ThanhPhero ( Nguoi di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: nuconvert

They all study and memorize the same book and that book is explicit about how a Moslem is to treat nonMoslems. They are to lie and to kill and to force conversions until all the world is Islamic. Christians are exhorted to go and convert all people by bring them the good news. The implication is that it all depends on the persuasiveness of the Christians. Moslems are exhorted to convert and to conquer or kill until all are Moslem. The implication is that any means is acceptable to that end. All must be made Moslem or eliminated, not all must be given the information to make up their minds.


194 posted on 11/28/2004 5:38:11 AM PST by ThanhPhero ( Nguoi di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: F15Eagle
In short, Muslims do not fit in. They are not allowed to fit in.

It never ceases to amaze me the ignorance of the masses. As if the above quote is, or should be, a big suprise of sorts.

All anyone, and yes, anyone, has to do, is crack the Quran/Koran and read the first ten chapters to see this straight from the horses mouth. What, half-an-hour of reading for a slow reader. Of course Islam/muslims, the Quranical kind, "do not fit in"! HELLO! That's what Islam is all about. Dominating and either forcing Islam on others or suppressing them otherwise.

It only says so in the Quran/Koran! Insofar as we know, there is only one single Quran/Koran, so seemingly anyone who is muslim reads it, uses it, and believes it. If not, then why would they be muslim?!

But it's all in there in very easy to read English versions that any 8th grader should have absolutely no difficulty understanding.

Yet, many seem surprised when Muslims and Islamic culture do exactly what the Koran/Quran says. I just don't get it. It's as if no one reads it, which I believe, and simply refuse to believe statements such as this post or what's in the article beginning this thread and dismiss them as foolishness and as being baseless. Then the problems come and the same people crying begin to scratch their heads.

That's a great article! Most muslims are in bondage to their religion and themselves suppressed by their leaders.

195 posted on 11/28/2004 5:49:50 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: F15Eagle

good article.


196 posted on 11/28/2004 5:52:59 AM PST by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: ThanhPhero

All Christians use the same book, yet how they interpret it and the way they practice can be quite different.


197 posted on 11/28/2004 5:53:50 AM PST by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: Blind Eye Jones
Thanks for the thoughtful post. The reason I don't want a state sponsored religion is it ultimately corrupts the religion. I'm a devout Roman Catholic, and we've been there, done that and got the t-shirt -- state power and religion is worse for the religion than for the state. Bad, amoral people will join a religion if thats the only way they can hold power. I would strongly argue religious tolerance has been good for religion -- certainly America is one of the most religious of all nations, with India probably close behind (and India is also another religously tolerant nation.)

I don't trust straight democracy either, as it can turn into mob rule. And our founding fathers felt the same way, which is why we have a republic. But the neocons are wrong if they think a state-sponsored religion does anything but make people cynical about both the religion and the state (there is a whole strain of Muslim humor sort of like blonde jokes that present Imams as corrupt freeloaders.)

This country used to have, for want of a better word, a common "secular" culture or "civic religion" as I think Kristol put it, that agreed on "Amercian" values (hard work, fair play, tolerance in the un-PC sense, neighbors helping neighbors, etc.) In that sense, Americans did have shared values, compatible with an amazingly wide range of religions and cultures, that bound us together. If an immigrant came here and agreed to abide by these values, he "became an American" -- a cool way to put it, we have always thought being an American was like joining a club, not an accident of birth. Unfortunately, these "American values" have been systematically undermined by the PC crowd, knocking hard work if somebody on welfare is offended, fair play if somebody wants affirmative action, and on and on. I think this is the biggest red/blue divide: what does it mean to be an American, and is it important? But that's a little off topic, just note that Americans specifically believe in freedom of conscience and religion, and for the majority of the religions we've had in this country it's worked for us.

But because it this "civic religion" has been so successful, I think Americans have fallen into a trap that all religions are compatible with being an American. And that's a fallacy, somebody wanting to restore Aztec human sacrifice would come to the attention of the local district attorney pretty quick (except maybe in San Francisco!)

So is being a Muslim compatible with being an American? Me personally, I don't think so. The simple historical fact is that Islam has always spread through conquest, which Christianity by and large has always spread through conversion. I've read the Koran and some of the Sura -- it doesn't seem like there's anything in them to hang seperation of church and state on. Can the Muslims have a "reformation" and define which texts matter and in which ways? I don't know -- I don't see an "opposition" Muslim movement speaking out aggressively against the Wahhabbists and other radicals. There seem to be either apologists for the terrorists or Muslim groups in the west that maybe put out a press release geared towards non-Muslim consumption. If there is going to be a "protestant" Muslim movement, it has to be start inside Islam, be "on fire" that they are right and speak to fellow believers. I'd be thrilled to see it, but I'm not betting the rent money.

198 posted on 11/28/2004 6:27:07 AM PST by justanotherfreeper
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To: nuconvert
All Christians use the same book, yet how they interpret it and the way they practice can be quite different.

Is there anything in the Bible which encourages Christians to kill, enslave or tax those who don't convert to Christianity? There is nothing that can be reasonably interpreted to mean this. The Koran outright states it in verses that one has to labor to interpret otherwise and frequently cannot be interpreted otherwise.

"Nuconvert". Does that mean you have converted to Islam?

199 posted on 11/28/2004 6:46:19 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell

Whether they "labor" or not, and whether you think it "cannot be interpreted otherwise", means nothing. The fact is, they DO.


200 posted on 11/28/2004 7:13:41 AM PST by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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