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The pajamahadeens are digging their own graves (FR Featured)
Toronto Star ^ | Nov. 25, 2004. 01:00 AM | ANTONIA ZERBISIAS

Posted on 11/25/2004 7:52:43 AM PST by HighWheeler

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To: HighWheeler

How many national or worldly stories have you broken in your career?

Huh???? 3? 2? 1? None????

You are defending the indefensible. Dan Rather either was complicit or was more than willing to allow himself to be used. Even when the truth became obvious. Even after most other news organizations conceded that the documents were fake. Even after the parties to the faked memo were pretty much discredited for pushing their personal agenda (to defeat Bush) over presenting real news.

That isn't the Pajama Brigade's fault. Rather decided to stick with his story (shades of another who said on National TV, shaking his finger into the camera, "I did not have sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky". Rather stuck with his story even when most of the rest of the world knew it was faked, a hoax, a scam.

So, ANTONIA ZERBISIAS, when do you think ole Dan will call Floria and Ohio for Bush?

As for Dan's groupie following, well, consider this:


41 posted on 11/25/2004 8:13:12 AM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: HighWheeler
"This has been a simply outstanding month," crowed a poster on "Bush won, Arafat died, we're kicking ass in Fallujah, and now this!"

The author has a problem with this?

Happy Thanksgiving!

42 posted on 11/25/2004 8:13:25 AM PST by dansangel (Thank you Veterans past and present!)
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To: HighWheeler

"young people are crowding into journalism schools, many of them in search of network TV stardom."

Freshman courses --

Developing a political agenda 101
Plagiarism and why it's OK 101
Using AP beats writing 101
How to imbed Democrat talking points into a story 101
Choosing a hairstyle 101

43 posted on 11/25/2004 8:13:48 AM PST by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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To: HighWheeler

This actually brings about an interesting point, one that I have been thinking about a lot lately. Why can't blogs not have their own "traditional" journalists? We have already seen bloggers given press passes to notable events such as the conventions. So why can't blogs organise and employ traditional journalists for assignments accross the US, Canada and abroad? Yes, it will cost money, but I think this is the next logical step in the blogging revolution. There must be a way to achieve this.

44 posted on 11/25/2004 8:13:50 AM PST by Trippin
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45 posted on 11/25/2004 8:14:27 AM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: CaptRon

Exactly. Since the professional press has failed in their responsibility to present accurate, unbiased, fair and balanced coverage of the news, the bloggerdom has arisen to be a watchdog on the MSM. This will fill the void left by irresponsible press coverage.

46 posted on 11/25/2004 8:14:39 AM PST by Laserman
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To: HighWheeler

You're right. They ALL are, or they wouldn't be liberals! Looking for an honest, reasonable liberal these days is like looking for the proverbial needle in a haystack.........and when you actually do find one, he usually ends up seeing the error of his ways and becomes, horror of horrors, a conservative. Ayup! Ain't it the truth!

47 posted on 11/25/2004 8:14:47 AM PST by rejoicing (F)
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To: HighWheeler
Ironically, bloggers mostly feed off the work of professional journalists who do the legwork.

HA! That's a good one! What legwork!?

48 posted on 11/25/2004 8:15:44 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: HighWheeler

She looks so much smarter than the people I know too...

Probably mad she spent money on a journalism degree while Matt Drudge was learning how to use a computer

49 posted on 11/25/2004 8:16:20 AM PST by woofie
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To: HighWheeler
If the media wants to survive, all it has to do is become balanced. An equal amount of reports from the other idealogical side would do much to extend their life. The media is dying because they haven't realized that it is their own hands around their necks that is strangling them to death.

Become balanced and we become benign.

50 posted on 11/25/2004 8:16:25 AM PST by McGavin999 (George Soros just learned a very expensive lesson-America can't be bought.)
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To: HighWheeler

So we should just shut up and listen?

Yeah.... I'm thinking someone does not like being challenged or questioned.

51 posted on 11/25/2004 8:16:39 AM PST by CyberCowboy777 (We want hard, tough, seasoned leaders who will methodically destroy the people who would kill us.)
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To: HighWheeler
"You couldn't have a starker contrast between the multiple layers of checks and balances (on network news) and a guy sitting in his living room in his pajamas writing."

The only check and balancing going on with network news is down in the accounting departments. Truth, despite the efforts of the media to suppress it, will permeate to the surface, sometimes even at the hand of a pajama clad Red State ignoramus too stupid to understand the complexities of the world as viewed through highly trained propogandists posing as journalists.

p.s. - Hope you're reading this post, Antonia. You may also want to check the help wanted classifieds and consider a career change. You're in an industry with a mortal diease brought on from within. Deal with it.

52 posted on 11/25/2004 8:17:37 AM PST by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: Trippin
NO, we need cable news network...

It would make FOX look amateurish...

peace out...
53 posted on 11/25/2004 8:17:52 AM PST by Flavius ("... we should reconnoitre assiduosly... " Vegetius)
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To: HighWheeler

Hey Antonio-- newspapers are a business, you cry baby. If you have to guilt people into buying your trash, maybe you should re-evaluate your product. Dan Rather was canned because he is a geriatric hysteric with low ratings. In the back of your socialistic mind, you probably think Dan should be government subsidized because he's providing a public service.

54 posted on 11/25/2004 8:18:05 AM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: HighWheeler

For those who wish to opine!

55 posted on 11/25/2004 8:18:07 AM PST by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: Trippin
Why can't blogs not have their own "traditional" journalists?

"Traditional journalists" consort with other traditional journalists. They are in the swamp together.

Cancer is a disease that spreads.

It is far better to comment from a distance from the stench, where the air is clean and the commentary is unfettered.

56 posted on 11/25/2004 8:18:31 AM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (John Kerry--three fake Purple Hearts. George Bush--one real heart of gold.)
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To: rejoicing

Exactly, I am interested to see what is going on in other countries (suach as Spain, Mexico and Venezuela) where there are changes in their MSM and are beginning to put their leaders's feet to the fire (except Chavez who is destroying every institution in Venezuela). I'll bring some info on Latin America and Spain. Are you listening Antonia?

57 posted on 11/25/2004 8:18:45 AM PST by Jose Roberto
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To: Judith Anne

exactly, this reporter is a fool. Sites like FR are discussing the merits of what these Mediots are writing.

Most Mediots have short memories. How many anchors have been pushed aside to go on to editorial projects. Rather's still being around is just face saving BS.

Lets not forget this is not the first time Rather blundered.

58 posted on 11/25/2004 8:18:59 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: HighWheeler

And still more November wonderfulness, the far northern leftists, the blue zone extension, is in mournful denial.

Rather is dead and soon will be gone. His appearances in the future will be the work of young and more able masters graduated from the apprentice ranks.

CBS is also dead because as long as the vindictave old men hang around there will be gridlock.

59 posted on 11/25/2004 8:19:18 AM PST by bert (Don't Panic.....)
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To: dansangel
Here is a quote from her on Nov 18, 2003:

"Zerbisias: Yes, I do feel that everyone is a media critic. We all scream at our TVs, don't we? As for bloggers, many of them humble me. I count my lucky stars that I was able to land a good-paying gig doing this, with health benefits yet, while other, much more talented people do it for nothing. But I don't think that bloggers, in general, are changing the media landscape. Sure, there have been instances but they have been rare, notable for their exceptionality. The truth is, bloggers are not that well read in the great scheme of things."

Followed by this:

Zerbisias: While I always reply to all reader e-mails, even the hate e-mails, sometimes I get annoyed by those people who believe I have nothing else to do all day but engage in debates with them and them alone. That's one. Two is that, like piles of unread newspapers in my kitchen, the Internet is starting to be a vast source of guilt that I am not doing my job. Nothing like a virtual pile of bookmarks.

60 posted on 11/25/2004 8:19:55 AM PST by HighWheeler ("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." Plato)
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